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Low-carb bootcamp

Join discussions about low-carb bootcamp plans, meals and progress. Consider speaking to a medical professional before starting any diet.

Welcome to Week 1 - October Low Carb Bootcamp starts here!

996 replies

BIWI · 09/10/2017 07:50

Morning all Flowers

[[https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1W-L3Zo6bEtw-zwqIVGRzCfGSgX0ZUxlC3snVbEb-J-g/edit?usp=sharing Here's a link to the Spreadsheet of Fabulousness ]]

If you haven't already, have a really good look around it - check out all the lovely stuff on the tabs at the bottom.

And here are the rules. Print these out and make sure you keep them handy:

1. Eat three meals a day
If you're not adapted to low carbing, then you must eat breakfast. It doesn’t have to be a lot, and it doesn’t have to be absolutely first thing, but you must have something. For the rest of the day, if you’re eating enough food and you are in ketosis then you shouldn’t be hungry between meals. But if you are hungry, eat something. (Hard boiled eggs make a great snack).

After the first two weeks of Bootcamp we will relax this, but these two weeks are critical in terms of helping you switch easily to a low carb way of eating - and if you start to feel hungry, it makes things much harder!

A typical high carbohydrate diet can mean that snacking is a routine part of your day. Once your blood sugar levels are stable, by eating low carb, you should find that you no longer want to snack. But the rule of thumb here is ‘if you are hungry, eat!’. (Just make sure you are only choosing low carb snacks, of course!)

2. Avoid processed foods.
Focus on pure, natural protein as the basis for your meals - meat/fish/eggs. Things like sausages, ham, bacon, pre-prepared burgers etc should be avoided as much as possible. You can have them, but just not every day. Avoid foods marketed as low carb, e.g. Atkins bars.

3. Eat lots of fat
Eating fat will not make you fat. Honestly! But it will keep your appetite satisfied, and it sustains your body’s energy requirements perfectly. Fat does not provoke an insulin spike, unlike carbs which do (a lot) and protein (a little). Fry in butter, add butter to vegetables, eat salad with a home-made vinaigrette dressing (not made with balsamic vinegar though, as this is too sweet), add mayonnaise where you can (just check the carb count on your mayo first). Eat fattier cuts of meat – e.g. pork belly, roast chicken with the skin on and/or eat the fat off your lamb chops. Absolutely no low fat/light foods of any kind!

4. Make sure you are eating vegetables and salads with your food
This is where your carbs should come from, and this is non-negotiable. But choose only those vegetables that are on the allowed list. Make sure that you focus on eating those vegetables that are 3-4g carb per 100g or less, and this will ensure that your carb counts are kept low. You don’t have to weigh/count carbs – this is one of the great joys of this WOE (way of eating), but if you’re new to low carbing it can be helpful to weigh your portions of veg in the early days, just so that you know how many carbs are in the sort of portions that you like to eat.

5. Be careful about dairy (apart from butter, which is unlimited)
Dairy can impede weight loss for some people. If you drink tea/coffee with milk or cream, try to restrict yourself to max 2 cups per day.

There are a lot of carbs in milk, so if you are having several cups of tea/coffee per day, you will quickly rack up your daily carb count (e.g. 1 medium latte contains more than 12g carbs!) You may eat cheese but again, don't overdo it. Full fat yoghurt is the best way to include dairy in your diet - but beware, it does contain carbs. I think Total Full Fat is the best, but other posters have also discovered a good one at Lidl.

6. You must drink a minimum of 2 litres of water per day
The more weight you have to lose, the more water you should drink. This is from www.low-carbdiet.co.uk/. Water is essential to weight loss for those who eat low-carb. The minimum consumed in a day should be:

Your Weight----Litres
140lbs-----2.5
160lbs-----3.0
180lbs-----3.0
200lbs-----3.5
220lbs-----3.5
240lbs-----4.0
260lbs-----4.5
280lbs-----4.5
300lbs-----5.0
320lbs-----5.5
340lbs-----5.5
360lbs-----6.0
380lbs-----6.5
400lbs-----6.5

High levels of ketones in the blood stream can lead to a reduction in ketone production, therefore being well hydrated could aid in keeping the levels low and ketone production ongoing. Consuming enough water can have many other positive side effects: aids your kidneys with the processing of protein, reduces the retention of water, helps with preventing constipation, and reduces the levels of ketones released by your breath, which in-turn will reduce breath odour.

However, drinking a lot of water can mean that you also need to keep an eye on your electrolyte balance. You need to make sure that you are consuming sufficient sodium and potassium. On a low carb diet we can eat more salt, so make sure that you are cooking with salt and adding salt to food, if you like it.

Good, low carb, sources of potassium are spinach (raw), avocado, mushrooms, courgettes and asparagus, as well as salmon and yoghurt.

7. No alcohol
Alcohol is the easiest source of fuel for the body to burn, so it will always use this first before it starts to burn any fat - which is why you need to restrict it, especially in the first two weeks of Bootcamp, when we are encouraging the body to stop using carbs for its source of fuel and turn to fat-burning instead. If you really can't do this - at least try and restrict it to the weekend. Vodka with soda is the best thing to drink. Or Champagne, red wine or dry white wine.

8. No fruit
Really. Seriously. Honestly. None at all. Zilch. Nada. After the first two weeks of Bootcamp you will be able to introduce certain fruits, but at this stage fruit is simply too carby. We are also trying to break the addiction to sweet things, so cutting fruit out is part of this process. If you are getting all your carbs from vegetables and salad, you will be getting all the nutrients and fibre that you need.

9. No nuts/seeds
Whilst these make a very good low carb snack, and can be added back in after these first two weeks, they are very moreish and can quickly become very carby. Also, carb counts vary enormously. Almonds and macadamias are the lowest.

10. No sugar or artificial sweeteners
Sugar is an obvious ‘no no’, but artificial sweeteners are also an issue. One of the aims of this way of eating is to eat pure and natural foods, so including sweeteners is not recommended. Some people find that artificial sweeteners can impede their weight loss, and there is some suggestion that your body can respond to sweeteners as if they were sugar, by releasing more insulin - and therefore laying down fat.

Given that the aim of Bootcamp is to help us lose our sweet tooth and addiction to sweet things, then it is a good idea to avoid sweeteners altogether in this first two weeks.

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ASDismynormality · 12/10/2017 17:47

I find the dropping sizes really interesting- I've dropped 100lbs , started at a size 22 (stretchy clothes) and am now a 16 (jeans,clothes without give). I imagine I will need to lose another stone at least to drop another size.

wombattoo · 12/10/2017 18:04

Hello everyone.
I am still here and doing ok. I have a bit going on at the moment but I am reading the thread every day and enjoying hearing how you are all getting on ignoring the cheating

I am a long term low carber and in relation to Stunt's observation, there are many foods that I used to enjoy, that just don't appeal to me anymore. There have been times when I have eaten something for the sake of it (think biscuits) and I just cannot tolerate how sweet they taste.

ilove when it comes to maintenance, I have always found that as I have eaten this way for a few years, I am able to have treats and it doesn't impact my weight. So, it may have been a portion of fries or a slice of real bread with butter and I am fine. The trick is to make sure that it is an isolated treat. For me, if I start allowing more things to sneak in, I can very quickly lose control and trigger cravings which can be hard to stop.

I regularly eat pork scratchings or variant of them and it has not stalled weight loss.

For anyone worrying about the increase in fat consumption, if you have chance, take a look through the last bootcamp. There were a number of 'doubters' and they went on to have some great losses.

Keep the faith and KOKO Thanks

wombattoo · 12/10/2017 18:06

Forgive my use of the word 'treats'. Carbs are not treats. Blush

C4gammeldagthefirst · 12/10/2017 18:10

Ilovecherries when I lost weight low carbing 15years ago I chose to stick to fairly strict low carb during the week and then relaxed at weekends and ate more carbs, I would have the occasional slice of cake at a party or ice cream with the DC's but I didn't really gravitate towards bread, rice, pasta etc
I stayed at or slightly under target for ten years and it took two spinal cord injuries to put and end to it.

You've smashed this woe, I think you need to keep one item of clothing and a photo of the old you, look at them everyday and it will remind you of the hard work it took to lose the weight and the sadness and frustration of wanting to before you found lchf

Rshard · 12/10/2017 18:17

Great photos ragz, you look fab!

I made the celeriac gratin tonight for dinner. It was really nice, had it with salmon with a parmesan crust. Just a slight variation from the one I’ve always had and dd and dh has tonight - no breadcrumbs on mine! Excuse dh’s foot

Welcome to Week 1 - October Low Carb Bootcamp starts here!
Grah0SoontobeaFitty · 12/10/2017 18:21

ClearEyesFullHeart check if you can remove the other end of the belt. Mine had a screw the allowed removing and snipping of instead of putting new holes in the belt.

DrDiva - I always gaggle warm salty water 2/3 times a day with a sore throat.

ilovecherries I found that if I go back to eating large portions of Carby food I put the weight on, fast.
But stay 85% LCHF I maintain. ( or Stall ) but go fully BC I start to lose.
Question is are you now building new habits of goto meals, so once you hit your target you maintain these habits?

But worrying now about the future is like worrying about the wall colouring in your new Martian apartment. Lets get to target 1st and cross the problem bridge once or if it happens.

A thought on the journey of life :-
When you start worrying about the future you, ask yourself 'AM I THERE YET? ' no, ok lets get there first.

Hi C4 glad to seeya hope your having fun.

Gammeldragz · 12/10/2017 18:31

Grah I'm not sure I agree... (Bear with me!). For many of us, we have lost weight many times in the past and put it back on again. This WOE can be hard work and many people will worry if it is worth it if it will all be going back on again. I plan for thus to be the last time I ever lose this much weight, which means I need a plan for maintenance and I don't see the harm in planning ahead. This has to be sustainable for life, for me at least. Obviously don't worry and stress about it, but certainly consider it.
To anyone who thinks this is a quick fix diet and once slim they can return to eating carbs with abandon, I would say think again! Same goes for all diets of course, but this one really is a commitment and huge lifestyle change, which is why many of us are so evangelical about it.
#lowcarbforlife :)

Mimosa1 · 12/10/2017 18:32

Ilove was it you who recommended the Leto Philly cheesesteak casserole from the Diet doctor website? Just made it - so good! Have greedily slightly burned my tongue "testing" it before it's cooled down ConfusedGrin

ChinchillaFur · 12/10/2017 18:34

Those before and after pictures are amazing! Really encourages me anyway. My weight is all on my belly and thighs, my top half is much smaller.

B: 2 eggs 2 bacon fried in coconut oil
L: chicken tikka Caesar salad
D: roast chicken leg, broccoli fried in butter and lots of extra crispy skin

ilovecherries · 12/10/2017 18:54

Mimosa, yes, it's delicious, isn't it!

StuntNun · 12/10/2017 19:13

It is worth considering weight maintenance before you reach your ideal weight. There are lots of times when maintenance might be needed: in a sudden crisis; staying with family; on holiday; over Christmas. I think preparation is key. You need to make the decisions before your presented with something carby that you just can't say no to. On holiday you could decide to have one alcoholic drink per day and one dessert per week. At Christmas you could decide to stay low carb apart from on Christmas Day itself when you will have one roast potato, stuffing, gravy, and a sliver of Christmas pud. In my experience this makes all the difference in stopping yourself from going off the rails. One moment of carby twatdom is t going to make much difference in the grand scheme of things but a prolonged carbfest will.

Some people use the 80:20 rule for maintenance where you eat low carb 80% of the time. I prefer to slightly increase my consumption of higher carbs such as fruit, vegetables, and occasional small portions of rice. Or you could eat low carb most of the time and have one meal off per week. Different methods work for different people and your preferences will change over time.

I like to set a weight range for maintenance. So if your ideal weight is 65kg then you maintain but if your weight reaches 67kg then it's time for a strict low carb period to get back down to your ideal weight. It's the gradual increase in weight that you have to guard against. Because it's gradual you often don't notice until there's been a big increase and your clothes start feeling too tight.

I had a chat with the Ways of Eating coaches about this and we decided that the key to success is making this your way of eating. You've reached this point when you look forward to getting back to normal. So you might eat less healthily while away from home, e.g. a fully catered holiday, but you eagerly anticipate getting back to your usual sorts of food.

If you have been eating low carb for a while and go back to a standard carb intake then the weight can pile on incredibly quickly. I was eating low carb before my fourth pregnancy but in the first trimester, nausea meant that I needed to eat carbs to be able to keep them down. I gained weight unbelievably fast, it was actually scary how quickly it went back on. I gained about 20lb in the first trimester alone! I went back to proper low carb from the start of the second trimester and lost the weight again after the baby was born.

So although regaining the weight is a scary thought, it can happen BUT you can lose it again if need be. It is often more difficult to lose weight low carb on the second time around though so I recommend getting to your goal weight and making every effort to stay there.

cafeaulaitpourvous · 12/10/2017 19:33

So

All my egg and bacon things have gone .... DD took a liking to them and scoffed two. I was saving them but I am glad she liked them and will make more

DD is 25 and has global delay and autism. She also has type 1 diabetes and overweight. She has got herself a good job in an office and is struggling with eating stuff that won’t make her blood sugar spike ( like cake etc) at break times. So I will make these and she will have them - she says!

Tonight’s tea was

Chicken and mushrooms with Tarragon and cream sauce on top of lovely swede. DH and dd had theirs with mash and Swede.

Was bloody lovely

I have also had a glass of full fat milk as I am sick of water and green tea...... it tasted fabulous

Scabbersley · 12/10/2017 19:57

Just eaten a pork chop with fat, kale and broccoli. So so bloated! Sad

bellalurgy · 12/10/2017 19:58

ilove it's really interesting you've lost 37lbs and have gone down so many dress sizes. (Actually I'm a bit envious) I've lost round about the same amount but have only gone down 2 sizes. It's strange how much people differ. I'm short but very compact (stocky as my mum was fond of pointing out) and although this means I don't go up many sizes it also means I have to lose a lot of weight to go down a size.

Anyway, food today;

Breakfast - coffee
Lunch - spinach and mushroom 2 egg omelette with cheese
Dinner - white fish and roasted veg
Snack - hungry today for some reason - 6 brazils, piece of cheese and an extra coffee.

KOKO x

poorbuthappy · 12/10/2017 20:11

B Greek full fat yoghurt
L Spinach and iceberg lettuce salad with bacon chicken cheese and mayo
T steak with cheesy broccoli and mushrooms. (Soft cheese chucked into pan with steamed broccoli and butter fried mushroom)

KOKO everyone!

Escapepeas · 12/10/2017 20:16

Day 4

B - Scrambled eggs with cream and goat's cheese
L - Chilli & coriander prawns, large green salad and mozzarella balls
D - Salmon with mushrooms, tomatoes, spinach and I added some asparagus fried in butter

www.tasteaholics.com/recipes/paleo/pan-seared-salmon-with-sauteed-mushrooms-spinach/

BrassicaBabe · 12/10/2017 20:18

Today
B: 2 bacon and slice or halloumi
L: left over cottage cheese
S: sodding scratchings
D: diet doctor keto chicken casserole (meh)

(Been doing LCHF since 26th. Been the same weight now since 5th. Getting impatient)

ilovecherries · 12/10/2017 20:20

Bella, I think part of the issue was where I carried my weight - although I've joked about finding my knee caps, needing smaller shoes, noticing cheekbones etc, the bulk of my weight was from my neck to my belly, and all at the front - I've never really had significant back fat. So I was always surprised when women who weighed the same as me were able to wear a 16/18. But I think the thing was they had a lot more fat on their limbs and face than me. When I started to lose weight the majority came off a very small area, so my dress size dropped rapidly. For the first time in years trousers actually fit me now. I'd buy a 22 for my waist, but they'd be huge on my thighs.

ASDismynormality · 12/10/2017 20:20

BrassicaBabe. Dairy really stalls me, you could try cutting it out and seeing if that helps.

ilovecherries · 12/10/2017 20:45

Food for today

Breakfast - was hungry so decided not to fast. Total yoghurt with a splash of cream
Lunch - conversely, not hungry at all! Had taken a salad but didn't get round to eating it.
Dinner - spiced roast pork belly with sautéed kale, Savoy cabbage and leeks.

Frigglet · 12/10/2017 20:51

Hi all, just checking in. Good to see all the meal suggestions and photos. Thanks also for the sharing of advice, information and encouragement.

Not a bad day for me:
B - 2 buttery scrambled eggs
L - 2 chicken thighs with skin on & salad
D - pork chop, salad and big dollop of mayonnaise.

Just about 2 litres water. No snacks.

I have read lots, but can someone pls clarify whether pork scratchings are ok for BC, and generally pls. I’ve only been checked having them cos I though I wasn’t having sufficient fat.

wombattoo · 12/10/2017 21:00

Frigglet Yes they are ok. Some are better than other so check the packet. The less ingredients the better.

Veryflummoxed · 12/10/2017 21:12

Using up the left overs today Leo ch and dinner below

Welcome to Week 1 - October Low Carb Bootcamp starts here!
Welcome to Week 1 - October Low Carb Bootcamp starts here!
Grah0SoontobeaFitty · 12/10/2017 21:14

Ragz great photos really show the curve changes.

Think we are on the same page
I'm saying "DON'T WORRY" get to the target and then decide.

When you start worrying about the future you, ask yourself 'AM I THERE YET? ' no, ok lets get there first.

Is anyone planning on putting all the weight back on? hope not.
Are we all doomed to continually repeat the same cycle?
With this woe
We are learning to eat when Hungry.
We are learning Carbytwatness food doesn't last long to cause cravings.
We are learning we don't need the Sugary fix.
We are learning fat is our friend not our enemy.
We are learning to prepare and plan food for the week.
We will learn how our bodies react to different foods.
And just as we do whilst trying to lose weight we learn what is good and bad for us.
We learn that we can miss the odd meal and carving cues that we have overdone the carbs.
We learn to Drink more.

So Thing to Plan is to KOKO and just adjust the shopping list for the following weeks activity.
Once we reach target our whole lifestyles will have changed, hopefully our activities have changed from Couch to Active.

Just KOKO and deal with the current time.

Frigglet · 12/10/2017 21:16

Thanks wombattoo. I think I’ll avoid them altogether for now; it’s just I find myself literally forgetting to eat and I thought it was a way to ‘catch up’.

Have to say, my meals don’t look anywhere as good as those being posted. I think I need to up my culinary skills...