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Low-carb bootcamp

Join discussions about low-carb bootcamp plans, meals and progress. Consider speaking to a medical professional before starting any diet.

Welcome to Week 1 - October Low Carb Bootcamp starts here!

996 replies

BIWI · 09/10/2017 07:50

Morning all Flowers

[[https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1W-L3Zo6bEtw-zwqIVGRzCfGSgX0ZUxlC3snVbEb-J-g/edit?usp=sharing Here's a link to the Spreadsheet of Fabulousness ]]

If you haven't already, have a really good look around it - check out all the lovely stuff on the tabs at the bottom.

And here are the rules. Print these out and make sure you keep them handy:

1. Eat three meals a day
If you're not adapted to low carbing, then you must eat breakfast. It doesn’t have to be a lot, and it doesn’t have to be absolutely first thing, but you must have something. For the rest of the day, if you’re eating enough food and you are in ketosis then you shouldn’t be hungry between meals. But if you are hungry, eat something. (Hard boiled eggs make a great snack).

After the first two weeks of Bootcamp we will relax this, but these two weeks are critical in terms of helping you switch easily to a low carb way of eating - and if you start to feel hungry, it makes things much harder!

A typical high carbohydrate diet can mean that snacking is a routine part of your day. Once your blood sugar levels are stable, by eating low carb, you should find that you no longer want to snack. But the rule of thumb here is ‘if you are hungry, eat!’. (Just make sure you are only choosing low carb snacks, of course!)

2. Avoid processed foods.
Focus on pure, natural protein as the basis for your meals - meat/fish/eggs. Things like sausages, ham, bacon, pre-prepared burgers etc should be avoided as much as possible. You can have them, but just not every day. Avoid foods marketed as low carb, e.g. Atkins bars.

3. Eat lots of fat
Eating fat will not make you fat. Honestly! But it will keep your appetite satisfied, and it sustains your body’s energy requirements perfectly. Fat does not provoke an insulin spike, unlike carbs which do (a lot) and protein (a little). Fry in butter, add butter to vegetables, eat salad with a home-made vinaigrette dressing (not made with balsamic vinegar though, as this is too sweet), add mayonnaise where you can (just check the carb count on your mayo first). Eat fattier cuts of meat – e.g. pork belly, roast chicken with the skin on and/or eat the fat off your lamb chops. Absolutely no low fat/light foods of any kind!

4. Make sure you are eating vegetables and salads with your food
This is where your carbs should come from, and this is non-negotiable. But choose only those vegetables that are on the allowed list. Make sure that you focus on eating those vegetables that are 3-4g carb per 100g or less, and this will ensure that your carb counts are kept low. You don’t have to weigh/count carbs – this is one of the great joys of this WOE (way of eating), but if you’re new to low carbing it can be helpful to weigh your portions of veg in the early days, just so that you know how many carbs are in the sort of portions that you like to eat.

5. Be careful about dairy (apart from butter, which is unlimited)
Dairy can impede weight loss for some people. If you drink tea/coffee with milk or cream, try to restrict yourself to max 2 cups per day.

There are a lot of carbs in milk, so if you are having several cups of tea/coffee per day, you will quickly rack up your daily carb count (e.g. 1 medium latte contains more than 12g carbs!) You may eat cheese but again, don't overdo it. Full fat yoghurt is the best way to include dairy in your diet - but beware, it does contain carbs. I think Total Full Fat is the best, but other posters have also discovered a good one at Lidl.

6. You must drink a minimum of 2 litres of water per day
The more weight you have to lose, the more water you should drink. This is from www.low-carbdiet.co.uk/. Water is essential to weight loss for those who eat low-carb. The minimum consumed in a day should be:

Your Weight----Litres
140lbs-----2.5
160lbs-----3.0
180lbs-----3.0
200lbs-----3.5
220lbs-----3.5
240lbs-----4.0
260lbs-----4.5
280lbs-----4.5
300lbs-----5.0
320lbs-----5.5
340lbs-----5.5
360lbs-----6.0
380lbs-----6.5
400lbs-----6.5

High levels of ketones in the blood stream can lead to a reduction in ketone production, therefore being well hydrated could aid in keeping the levels low and ketone production ongoing. Consuming enough water can have many other positive side effects: aids your kidneys with the processing of protein, reduces the retention of water, helps with preventing constipation, and reduces the levels of ketones released by your breath, which in-turn will reduce breath odour.

However, drinking a lot of water can mean that you also need to keep an eye on your electrolyte balance. You need to make sure that you are consuming sufficient sodium and potassium. On a low carb diet we can eat more salt, so make sure that you are cooking with salt and adding salt to food, if you like it.

Good, low carb, sources of potassium are spinach (raw), avocado, mushrooms, courgettes and asparagus, as well as salmon and yoghurt.

7. No alcohol
Alcohol is the easiest source of fuel for the body to burn, so it will always use this first before it starts to burn any fat - which is why you need to restrict it, especially in the first two weeks of Bootcamp, when we are encouraging the body to stop using carbs for its source of fuel and turn to fat-burning instead. If you really can't do this - at least try and restrict it to the weekend. Vodka with soda is the best thing to drink. Or Champagne, red wine or dry white wine.

8. No fruit
Really. Seriously. Honestly. None at all. Zilch. Nada. After the first two weeks of Bootcamp you will be able to introduce certain fruits, but at this stage fruit is simply too carby. We are also trying to break the addiction to sweet things, so cutting fruit out is part of this process. If you are getting all your carbs from vegetables and salad, you will be getting all the nutrients and fibre that you need.

9. No nuts/seeds
Whilst these make a very good low carb snack, and can be added back in after these first two weeks, they are very moreish and can quickly become very carby. Also, carb counts vary enormously. Almonds and macadamias are the lowest.

10. No sugar or artificial sweeteners
Sugar is an obvious ‘no no’, but artificial sweeteners are also an issue. One of the aims of this way of eating is to eat pure and natural foods, so including sweeteners is not recommended. Some people find that artificial sweeteners can impede their weight loss, and there is some suggestion that your body can respond to sweeteners as if they were sugar, by releasing more insulin - and therefore laying down fat.

Given that the aim of Bootcamp is to help us lose our sweet tooth and addiction to sweet things, then it is a good idea to avoid sweeteners altogether in this first two weeks.

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Kleptronic · 12/10/2017 15:39

Thank you Giraffeski.

ilovecherries · 12/10/2017 16:09

This is possibly a silly worry, but it IS bothering me. Although I was very overweight, I didn't really have any history of yo-yo dieting. I had plenty of failed diets, but they failed because I didn't lose weight on them, so basically I just got fatter every year. Now I've lost about 65% of the weight, I'm starting to really worry about maintaining it. For the last 5 months I haven't eaten as much as a crumb of off plan food, but realistically that's probably not sustainable. I am terrified of putting it on again though. So many people seem to lose weight (not just on LCHF but by any method) and put it back on again, plus some. How do you avoid that without the level of rigour I've managed so far? I'm not feeling tempted or anything just now, but I'm not sure of scrutinising every mouthful forever will work either. I long ago accepted this woe is for life for me, but even so, we live in a carb laden world. For some reason feeling very anxious today - and while it IS nice getting lots of compliments it's also making me self conscious and awkward that so many people are noticing. Probably none of this is making any sense..

HolgerDanske · 12/10/2017 16:21

I think you manage it by keeping on top of the reasons why you eat too much (because that is the core issue), so you can stay in control of your emotions and your reactions to them. You also learn to keep things balanced, for the most part, so that you can have a little of what you fancy here and there without going completely nuts. You live day by day and try to make mindful eating your normal. And if you do fall off the wagon completely for a time, you learn that you can pull yourself together again and do right by yourself.

JumpingIntoLCHF · 12/10/2017 16:29

I'd say you've shown it is sustainable for 5 months. You won't need to be quite as strict when you're maintaining weight I don't suppose.

Veryflummoxed · 12/10/2017 16:36

Completely makes sense ILove. I am definitely not an expert but it seems to me, having followed your very steady weight loss, that you have quite a lot of wriggle room in which to maintain instead of putting on. I think the usual advise is introduce a little carb a bit at a time, and sensibly. So a more starchy carb rather than a bar of galaxy (as if you hadn’t worked that one out Grin). If you know your triggers you’ll know they’re never going to feature in your life again as anything other than the very occasional. You love this weigh of eating, you know it’s for life. I think the danger lies in seeing it as a diet and getting bored.

Gammeldragz · 12/10/2017 16:42

c4 I believe the hormones involved in post menopausal weight gain are oestrogen and Follicle Stimulating Hormone. After menopause we store more of the belly fat (like men) which is a different type of fat to the stuff we gain on hips, bum and thighs during our fertile years.
The yoyo dieting I think is partly psychological, as in we achieved the goal so stopped doing the diet (which is why I see LC as my WOE for life). Also I think (may be wrong) that if one has been storing a lot of fat, we have more fat cells. These may empty with weight loss but not go away altogether (at least initially) and the body wants to fill them back up, because they're there! The fat goes back quicker because the empty fat cells are there to take it?

My LC week is going well, had a headache all week as punishment for carby weekend. Enough to put me off doing it again!

I have been LC since January, weight loss is slow and sporadic at this point as I have lost 40lbs so far. My weight fluctuates a lot but the trend is ever downward (graph of daily weights attached). I do enjoy daily weighing and the ups don't bother me much, but this doesn't suit everyone.

Welcome to Week 1 - October Low Carb Bootcamp starts here!
prettybird · 12/10/2017 16:44

Ilovecherries : the answer is "it depends" Wink

You know your character better than us. Can you eat some carbs mindfully and not fall off the wagon? Some of us can, some of us can't. I can do it for one-offs, but find Christmas, with its orgy of eating, difficult. I start off really well, but then suffer from carb creep and end up head first in the tin of Quality Street Blush I wasn't as bad last Christmas as previous ones Grin

I thought you might find this article from Gretchen Runin interesting: gretchenrubin.com/2015/11/what-do-i-eat-every-day It explains why, given her personality, she has to stay super-strict with her low carb diet.

Her web site has some good resources - questionannires as to what your character is etc. I've got her book "The Happiness Project" and one of the later ones (can't remember its title) and found them useful.

Gammeldragz · 12/10/2017 16:45

Here's my most recent progress photo as inspiration for all those who are finding this WOE hard to adjust to. Hope it's more motivating than horrifying!

Welcome to Week 1 - October Low Carb Bootcamp starts here!
ASDismynormality · 12/10/2017 16:46

ilove. I really understand what you mean. I also worry that I will put back on what I have lost and more. My plan at the moment is even when I have reached goal to keep weighing myself and have a point at which I need to revert back to strict bootcamp, that's my thought right now....
I also understand what you mean about feeling self councious about people noticing your weightloss. I saw someone I hadn't seen for a while who told me she had heard from another school mum I had lost lots of weight and she was right. Kind of flattering but not nice that my weight is a topic is someone else's conversation!

ASDismynormality · 12/10/2017 16:48

ragz. Those pictures show great progress!

StuntNun · 12/10/2017 16:49

Cherries there's no reason to change the way you're eating now if you're happy with it and it's sustainable for you. For me maintenance means:

  • Not having to worry about rusk in sausages or flour in sauces when eating out

  • Having healthy but not low carb foods more often, such as sweet potatoes, apples, carrots

  • Being able to handle SOS (Socially Obligated Sugar) such as a piece of birthday cake without it causing issues

  • Knowing when and how to cut carbs again if my weight either starts to creep up or after going on holiday / Christmas

As we have been chatting about further upthread, the majority of high carb foods completely lose their appeal with time. I would happily never eat bread again. I might decide to have lasagne (my previous favourite food) again occasionally but probably on the order of once a year. Those foods that don't lose their appeal are still available but you need to learn how to decide when you really want them and then enjoy them guilt-free.

ASDismynormality · 12/10/2017 16:52

ragz. It's really interesting to see your pictures as in my head I look quite like your first picture and looking at your weight stats I'm pretty close, it's a great motivator to see what losing 37lbs will look like, thanks!

Gammeldragz · 12/10/2017 16:56

ASD that's my plan too, I realised that when I stop weighing, I stop holding myself accountable and don't associate what I'm eating with weight gain... So I will get into a weight range I'm happy with (150-155 probably) and then weigh at least weekly and cut back when needed. I now know how much better I feel when I don't binge. So all carby twatness will be worth it, rather than for the sake of it.
Prettybird I plan to have two days off at Christmas. Only two. Not a week, or a month! I will not even be buying big tubs of chocs as they aren't good for any of us and they aren't even that nice! Kids will get treats in stockings so they won't go without. DH can buy his own if he wants it!
The struggle will be Christmas bubble and squeak. Which we tend to eat for a week afterwards! I'll try to make sure fewer carby veg are leftover this year to go in it...

Gammeldragz · 12/10/2017 17:00

ASD I'm 5'10" so my starting weight of over 15 stone (211lbs) would look very different on a shorter person with a different body shape (even at 15 stone I had a waist). Are you a similar height or just similar shape?
Glad they've helped anyway. It is hard to imagine what we will look like with weight loss isn't it? I'm so glad I took regular photos.

Veryflummoxed · 12/10/2017 17:02

Left over celariac mash and cabbage makes lovely bubble and squeak Ragz. And weight loss photos fantastic.

ASDismynormality · 12/10/2017 17:07

ragz. I'm 5'7'' and 14 st 9lbs - just a similar looking belly as it has recently gone down giving me a bit more shape.

prettybird · 12/10/2017 17:08

Ragz : Unfortunately, we have a tradition yes I know I should give it up Blush of buying a tin (yes, a proper tin, none of this plastic tub nonsense Wink) of Quality Street to share as a family.

Last year, I was quite good initially but got gradually worse but not as bad as previous years Blush

For the actual meals, I was relatively ok: only one roast potato and loads of low carb vegs. Christmas pudding (at our main Christmas dinner on Christmas Eve) is the Danish ris a l'amonde (a sweet rice risotto with whipped cream and chopped almonds folded through it - and one whole almond for someone to win the Almond Prize).

All the other meals I try to design to be Low Carb or to have Low Carb options. Duck confit is a favourite! Can be made well ahead and then got out whenever it is required. Grin

HolgerDanske · 12/10/2017 17:21

Quality street is rubbish these days though.

Maybe a small tin for the die hard traditionalists, or the children who might just want to stuff themselves as per usual, but for yourself, why not have a much smaller box of something much nicer.

Godiva

Monty BoJangles

Lindt Lindor Orange

Champagne truffles, baileys truffles, or similar

-those are my favourites for reasonably priced but much nicer chocolate. I would much rather have two or three pieces of those, enjoyed with a very small glass of Bailey's, few times over the Christmas period.

Gammeldragz · 12/10/2017 17:25

Holger champagne truffles and baileys are two of my planned indulgences for thus year. Just need to find a small enough bottle that I can get through in two days!
ASD keep up the low carb and you'll have your very own progress photo to share (or not!). I've only gone from a size 16/18 to a 12/14 though, downside of the height is that it takes more weight loss to make a difference to dress sizes :(

DartmoorDoughnut · 12/10/2017 17:29

Doing good today good and water wise but we've had a mad busy day (hour dog walk carrying both children, 2hrs forest school carrying the baby and running around after the toddler and then a couple of hours in the park) so I am shattered, not hungry but my energy is SO low I am craving a pick me up to see me through til bedtime aka HELP! Any energy boosting ideas?

DartmoorDoughnut · 12/10/2017 17:30

Second good is meant to be food!

ilovecherries · 12/10/2017 17:36

Thanks everyone :)

Ragz, it's the drop in dress size that has shocked me. I'm 5 foot 7 and a drop of 37 lbs has taken me from a 22/24 to a fairly solid 14. I can't keep up with my clothes any more. I bought supermarket jeans two weeks ago, and they are already falling off my backside. I'm trying to buy clothes that will be forgiving through a few sizes. I love your pictures, they are very encouraging.

I'm currently bouncing between 12.13 and 13.1. I don't record a new low weight till I've seen it for three consecutive days, and that 13 stone barrier keep taunting me! Daily weighing works for me though, because I can accept daily fluctuations, whereas weekly or monthly stressed me out - I became far too invested in that one weight.

ilovecherries · 12/10/2017 17:38

Dartmoor, my pick me ups in the early days was either a mug of marigold bullion, a coffee with cream (I loved the Beanies flavoured coffees) or a glass of sparkling water with a slice of Brie.

DartmoorDoughnut · 12/10/2017 17:42

Thanks cherries I'll grab some cheese!

GrumpyOldFucker · 12/10/2017 17:44

@Gammeldragz - what a fantastic difference, you look amazing.

@ilovecherries - what I’ve done I’ve the past year is 5:2 and moderate carbs. I fine the two fast days gave me enough leeway to be a bit normal at the weekend. But I’m short and old so it may be easier for you.

I did put on 2-3lb on each holiday, which is why I’m here.

Last night I went dancing, so couldn’t get to sleep early as all revved up. Finally dropped off at 3am for the alarm to sound at 5:45.

So knackered today and fighting the devils tempting me to eat. I have snacked (boo) but low carb. Tomorrow is a planned exception, so I’m pleased to have held relatively firm today.

B: coffee & soya milk
L: mushroom soup
Snacks: a couple of bits of cheese and some smoked sausage
D: chicken mushroom & leek stew

Exercise: weights, walking dog for an hour