Once you become aware of male entitlement…

[Giraffesandbottoms]

…it’s everywhere?!?

This afternoon I wanted to pick up my children from my mother’s. 2 minute job to get them from her front door into the car. Pull up outside, and a man from the house opposite comes out with two other men:

Man “we need to get this van out of the driveway” (note - not ASKING, TELLING me)
Me “ok, I’ll be gone in two minutes”.

Get back to car under a minute later with my mother and children and they haven’t waited and are have started a humiliating 100 point turn. It’s honestly so embarrassing for them. My mother asks if they can please wait so we can get into the car (note ASKS and PLEASE).

Man “we asked you to wait”
Me “you did nothing of the sort. You TOLD me. And now you’re doing a humiliating 100 point turn that will take another 5 minutes when by now I would be gone and so would you”.

Man also reeked of alcohol. Just so fucking needless - saw a pregnant woman and immediately thought what I needed to do and what I was saying was worthless/their needs trumped mine. Ended up making their lives harder. Also so telling how they saw it as them having asked me!

Love the fact that @BellatricksStrange has turned up to tell all the women that they're wrong

@Sherrystrull

Love the fact that *@BellatricksStrange* has turned up to tell all the women that they're wrong

There’s always one on these threads getting all red faced and spitty

@Onairjunkie

Ha! I can imagine!

I can't believe people on this thread, but then m it does explain the shocking standard of driving I see on a daily basis. If the van was struggling to get out then OP was blocking the drive, even if on the opposite side of the road. You shouldn't park there.

If the van was struggling to get out then OP was blocking the drive, even if on the opposite side of the road. You shouldn't park there

Jesus wept! Last time for those who really struggle with reading comprehension 😆 :

A van was parked in a driveway. PARKED.

I parked opposite the driveway. OPPOSITE. LEGALLY. For my own convenience and the safety of my children as it was directly outside my mother’s.

When I left my vehicle THEN and ONLY THEN did a man approach me and TELL ME he needed to move the van. As he was TELLING, not asking, and as I was OUTSIDE MY VEHICLE, I explained I would be 2 minutes.

I returned to the vehicle 1 minute later with my children. He had not wanted to wait and was doing a stupidly difficult job to get out when it would have taken seconds had he waited.

Hope my mansplaining helped 😆🤷🏻‍♀️

Yes I understand it was parked, but you were making his access to the road difficult. You are that typical entitled "just two minutes" person. Sorry op but you would have been on the recieving end of far worse round here.

So, to be clear, nobody should ever park in a space opposite a drive that has a parked vehicle in it, in case they need to leave?

@MrsTerryPratchett, thank you.

Speaking of male entitlement, I was cut up today by a van going the wrong way up a one-way street, whose driver then got gobby with me when I wound down my window to point the signage out to him.

Fortunately, the van was emblazoned with the logo of a local company, so I rang them when I got home.

@LittleMissMoggy

Yes I understand it was parked, but you were making his access to the road difficult. You are that typical entitled "just two minutes" person. Sorry op but you would have been on the recieving end of far worse round here.

....making his access to the road difficult....

Except it wasn't that fucking difficult if he'd either politely asked or waiting 60 seconds. See how the word his is increasingly relevant? Or are you being deliberately dim?

It starts so young. I was at a sports class with my dd a few weeks ago. The facilitator split the teams into boys v girls (crap in itself but not the point) he asked them to line up facing each other. Then started to jolly them up with who's the best boys or girls, who's best at sport etc...the girls stayed on their side of the court. The boys were running forward into their space, right in the girls faces, the girls were stepping back. The facilitator made them go back but straight away the boys again ran into the girls space on their side of the court, shouting and jumping around pushing the girls back. The girls never crossed the line once. It was pretty eye opening to see it in such cute young dc.

Ive had men scream obsenities out of their car at me for daring to look like I might cross the road, as they drive through a red light without even noticing the light, because the sight of a woman even considering encroaching on their space enrages them that much

If it happened once i wouldnt call it male entitlement, but it happened quite a few times at a set of traffic lights i used to live by, and it was always men

@Giraffesandbottoms

So, to be clear, nobody should ever park in a space opposite a drive that has a parked vehicle in it, in case they need to leave?

People do a lot worse TBH so wouldn't worry about it (other than having to deal with a snarky bloke). I mentioned in a previous post that it's not ideal but you were literally just passing. I'd imagine that 90% of the time you'd be fine to drop off/pick up but were unfortunate. Did you confirm earlier that there are no double yellow lines so it's theoretically ok to park? Sorry I missed it.

People need to seriously chill out on the roads though as road rage and intolerance is no good for anyone. I doubt many people's lives are so time critical that they can't wait 2 mins.

@Lunar27

There were no yellows - it was totally fine to park! Maybe they should have had a think before parking a van on the driveway what their plan was if someone else had parked where I did 😬 I think they might think next time - or I hope anyway next time they think to say please!

Some awful but not surprising stories on this thread. One of the things that surprised me most is how rudely men started to push past me on pavements and in shopping centres etc once I was pushing a buggy. It's like you no longer exist once you're a mother walking along with a pram, you're just a physical obstacle. They force you to slow down so they can cut in front of you. Wish I had the nerve to just run them over.

My male neighbour graciously allowed me to use their driveway while they were away in holiday as ours was full of building material - but on the unspoken condition that he “showed me” how to park in his driveway. The fact that his driveway was exactly like ours seemed irrelevant - he absolutely needed to show me, a mere woman, how to park. He insisted on my parking my car in such a way that it involved loads of tiny manoeuvres that basically set me up to “fail” - in his eyes. It made me laugh when his wife happened to arrive home at the point when he was getting me to reverse into a tiny space for the nth time - she gave him a bollocking: Why are you telling her to park like that? You know how hard it is.
Basically he wanted me to fail. He wanted to feel superior over me.
I never did use his driveway after that.

@Giraffesandbottoms. Thanks for the clarification. If the council don't want people parking there then they need to put up signs or paint lines in the road.

And you're right, if someone decides to park there all day then it would be tough. Maybe you should've gone to do the weekly shop and letting him carry on with his 100 point turn!

[quote Giraffesandbottoms]@Broads93

You sound a good person to have on side 😬[/quote]
Honestly, it happens at least twice a week without fail.
Although the best thing is once they've asked me and I assure them I don't need help, I'll walk past them and see them struggling to lift their stuff onto their trolley, the satisfaction I get! 😂

If they have a proper dropped curb to their drive then really they shouldn't have to worry about whether or not to put their van on it. Your parking, regardless of male, female, non bindery or anything else was just inconsiderate. Yes they could have been more polite but you also could have been.

Or the way men will take it upon themselves to tell you stuff you already know. Cos obviously they know more than you

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@LittleMissMoggy

If they have a proper dropped curb to their drive then really they shouldn't have to worry about whether or not to put their van on it. Your parking, regardless of male, female, non bindery or anything else was just inconsiderate. Yes they could have been more polite but you also could have been.

Have you read literally anything?

Go back and do the homework.

Oh yes, my grandad started making dinner once my nan was ill. He put something extra in, a herb or spice and I said 'oh this is nice, why does it taste different?' and he spent ages telling me how he chops the vegetables and adds them to the pan, but before you put them in the pan you have to take the pan out of the cupboard and before you can get it out of the cupboard you have to open the door first.
I think that's mansplaining.

Absolutely my family are the worst for male entitlement and to be honest, reading this thread its making me want to fuck them all off into a giant blender and feed them to my quiet, beautiful plants.

Absolutely my family are the worst for male entitlement and to be honest, reading this thread its making me want to fuck them all off into a giant blender and feed them to my quiet, beautiful plants

Hahahaha!!!!

@Mollysocks

Sorry but I think you are the rude one here. They told you they needed access for the van and you ignored them and proceeded to park anyway

But why do their needs trump OPs? OP said she’s be two minutes, it’s not like she said she was going to be half hour!

I guess no-one trumps anyone here. But they've done nothing wrong by doing what they did either by trying to get out by making a "100 point turn".

[quote Giraffesandbottoms]@mibbelucieachwell

The “steady lass” thing reminds me of my father who always used to say to women at the check out (when his flirting was not getting him anywhere) “cheer up, it may never happen”. Just such a bizarre and patronising thing to say.[/quote]
Some dimwitted security guard told me that on my way out of the job centre/dole office when I was trying to hold in a barrage of tears.

It took ALL my strength not to say to him "It HAS fucking happened, you stupid fucking twat!!!"

But they've done nothing wrong by doing what they did either by trying to get out by making a "100 point turn

Of course they haven’t done anything wrong in doing that - it was just amusing/silly as we stood there for quite some time waiting for them to finish and they must have been increasingly aware they, had they just waited, they would have been able to leave much faster and with ease 😬 it was like something from a sketch show

Impressed you didn’t say that to the man; it’s such a thoroughly unhelpful and shit comment to make and, as you say, no one knows what someone has been through! But of course women need to smile for men…