Once you become aware of male entitlement…

[Giraffesandbottoms]

…it’s everywhere?!?

This afternoon I wanted to pick up my children from my mother’s. 2 minute job to get them from her front door into the car. Pull up outside, and a man from the house opposite comes out with two other men:

Man “we need to get this van out of the driveway” (note - not ASKING, TELLING me)
Me “ok, I’ll be gone in two minutes”.

Get back to car under a minute later with my mother and children and they haven’t waited and are have started a humiliating 100 point turn. It’s honestly so embarrassing for them. My mother asks if they can please wait so we can get into the car (note ASKS and PLEASE).

Man “we asked you to wait”
Me “you did nothing of the sort. You TOLD me. And now you’re doing a humiliating 100 point turn that will take another 5 minutes when by now I would be gone and so would you”.

Man also reeked of alcohol. Just so fucking needless - saw a pregnant woman and immediately thought what I needed to do and what I was saying was worthless/their needs trumped mine. Ended up making their lives harder. Also so telling how they saw it as them having asked me!

@Brefugee

Just examine the classic example given on the thread, two people coming towards one another on a narrow path, and one has to give way. Don't you find it ironic how the male who doesn't give way is seen as entitled, while the female who does the same is actually making a stand for feminism?

Well, @BellatricksStrange it's a shame you haven't actually read and inwardly digested those posts. Because they all, every single one, refer to a lone woman perambulating in one direction, and the oncomers are taking up the width of the entire path. so no, it's not a "blow for feminism" to not get out of the way for one person (although there is no compelling reason why the man can't move, gawd knows they rarely do anyway). It is about forcing a woman, often with a small child or stroller, into the road instead of, for the few seconds until they're all past each other, going one behind the other.

The fact that you didn't even read the posts is disappointing.

Amazing how you can blatantly lie when anyone can just go back and read the posts. You must be either very confident in your own story-telling abilities, or have very little confidence in the readers' intelligence.

so i missed one. How about you repost it so i can find it?

I agree. Im only new here and am quite unearthed by reading these threads. I would in no way associate such inconsiderate and quite frankly narcissistic behaviour with being a feminist. The majority of posts seem to me to show female entitlement if nothing else, even though i dislike using such divisive terms.

@Chickenpoxtwins

So you parked in such a way to block them from getting the van out of the driveway? I'm not sure they're the unreasonable ones here.

If I have read @Giraffesandbottoms‘ OP correctly, it was the way she was spoken to, not the actual request that was unreasonable.

They didn’t say “We need to get the van off the drive - could you park a bit further down please?” - the entitlement was in the way the told her what they wanted, and expected her to comply.

When someone has to defend their driving or parking in this case with; well it was legal so im right, this is a clearly not a person willing to see that while legal, their actions were likely unreasonable and inconsiderate. I wouldnt be inclined to show upmost politeness either.

I’m struggling to see how OP’s actions were unreasonable. She parked in a legal parking place, as she was perfectly entitled to do. She was then told, “We need to get this can out of the driveway.” She wasn’t asked to move, and she didn’t. She was presented with a fact (we need to move the van), and in turn provided her own fact (I’ll only be two minutes). How is this in any way unreasonable or inconsiderate?

**van not can!!

@FortVictoria

I’m struggling to see how OP’s actions were unreasonable. She parked in a legal parking place, as she was perfectly entitled to do. She was then told, “We need to get this can out of the driveway.” She wasn’t asked to move, and she didn’t. She was presented with a fact (we need to move the van), and in turn provided her own fact (I’ll only be two minutes). How is this in any way unreasonable or inconsiderate?

The flag-wavers of the patriarchy will no doubt be back shortly to explain why having well-defined boundaries and quietly sticking to them is the height of unreasonable behaviour.

@Dutch1e - that made me smile 😀