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Westministenders: The One Where Everyone is an Election Expert For 3 Days

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RedToothBrush · 24/05/2019 17:40

The Vote has been cast.

The PM has quit. SHOCK!

We now face The Big Wait.

Waiting for the results. Waiting for the new leader. Waiting for a new direction.

Turnout looks likely to be up overall compared to 2014. Whether this is a good thing or a bad thing isn't clear.

At this stage realistically the only definite thing that I think you can actually speculate is the LDs have done very well indeed. Turnout is up in all traditional LD areas and remain areas in general. Though some LDs are getting a little carried away.

Does this mean that the Brexit Party will do badly? No. Its merely a reflection of demographic polarisation. And it may indeed help the Brexit Party ironically. It does suggest that Labour hasn't done well in the north (difference with 2014 turnouts worst in Labour areas) and there are hints that the Cons have done badly (Lincolnshire turnout for the locals was lower than for the EU elections). Something is happening in Wales. But no one seems to really understand what. Its gone 'rogue'!

Plus there are far more leave areas than remain ones. The increases in turnout possibly aren't enough to make a significant dent on the Brexit Party lead.

Not much of an increase in turnout in places like Derby, Middlesbrough, Hartlepool, Basildon, Leigh - which all have high leave figures suggest that the Brexit Party are not motivated those they persuaded to the polls for the first time in 2016 for the Ref to vote. Instead it means they can only increase their vote share with a further collapse in the Lab / Con vote from 2014. The question with this is how close were UKIP to the ceiling vote? If you didn't go with UKIP in 2014 would the ref change that? Does this mark it harder for them to hit close to 38% vote share? Argueably yes - but don't get too excited yet either. It doesn't mean they won't do very well, if there is a Lab/Con vote collaspe like the locals. I still would not be surprised by a mid-thirties result.

Psychologically the popular vote matters. This might be important for the future. The vote of those extra referedum voters hasn't been motivated by another protest vote under Farage. Who is going to try and court them? This affects the direction of all the parties.

The real issue is how the seats split down. With the vote fragmented between the LDs, Greens, Plaid and SNP the ranking is against them. And works for the Brexit Party.

Meanwhile Boris Johnson has vowed to crash the UK out the EU without a deal.... what internal numbers is he aware of???

Results due after 10pm Sunday.

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tobee · 26/05/2019 23:04

Hideous still photos on sky of Farage has instantly taken away my appetite Envy

BigChocFrenzy · 26/05/2019 23:05

Far right down in Germany too, woman 🤜🏼
and Greens shooting upwards

So far, it looks like only the UK has increased support for fascists Blush
but everywhere is going Greener

BestIsWest · 26/05/2019 23:05

EuropeElects

UK: 30.5% counted.

Hard Brexit parties: 35.2%
Conservatives/Labour: 23.1%
Remain parties: 40.2%

Basilpots · 26/05/2019 23:05

Hazard I know it’s not great.

On the bright side it might give Labour a kick up the backside it needs.

RedToothBrush · 26/05/2019 23:05

Britain Elects prediction had the Cons winning a seat over the LDs.

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tobee · 26/05/2019 23:06

God disgusted Londoners have voted in 2 brexit MEPs. London!!!!

Motherof3feminists · 26/05/2019 23:06

I used to get Entenmans (sp?) traybakes at uni in the late 90s. The chocolate fudge was my favourite and a real treat. I miss them.

Quintella · 26/05/2019 23:06

Here you go, @Motherof3feminists. Bit of melting and mixing and chilling and full deliciousness!

RedToothBrush · 26/05/2019 23:06

I 'found' a bag of jelly babies in my underwear drawer....

... emergency supplies....

South Ayrshire (changes vs 2014); SNP - 34.2% (+7.1) Con - 20.5% (-9.9) Brex - 17.3% (+17.3) Lib Dem - 10.5% (+7.5) Lab - 7.3% (-15.0) Green - 5.8% (+1.0) ChUK - 2.0% (+2) UKIP - 1.9% (-8.4) Inds x2 - 0.7% (+0.7)

York (Yorkshire & the Humber) result: LDem: 28.5% (+18.1) Brex: 26.7% (+26.7) Grn: 19.9% (+4.1) Lab: 10.9% (-11.6) Con: 5.8% (-17.4)

Highland (changes vs 2014); SNP - 37.3% (+6.9) Brex - 18.0% (+18) Lib Dem - 17.4% (-1.3) Con - 9.9% - (-4.1) Green - 9.2% (+0.6) Lab - 4.0% (-10.0) UKIP - 2.1% (-9.9) ChUK - 1.6% (+1.6) Inds x2 - 0.6% (+0.6)

Fenland (East of England) result: Brex: 51.9% (+51.9) Con: 13.1% (-15.8) LDem: 11.4% (+8.0) Grn: 8.0% (+3.8) Lab: 5.7% (-5.2) UKIP: 5.7% (-41.6)

Britain Elects @britainelects 3 minutes ago
bins forecast

www.mumsnet.com/Talk/eu_referendum_2016_/3596263-Westministenders-EARRRTHHHHHQQQUUUAAKKKKEEEE?watched=1
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BigChocFrenzy · 26/05/2019 23:06

The Liberal Democrats win London region

CONFIRMED London result: Lib Dems win 3 MEPs, Labour 2 MEPs, Brexit Party 2 MEPs, Green Party 1 MEP
— Tom Rayner (@RaynerSkyNews) May 26, 20199_

Miljah · 26/05/2019 23:06

Ok, Labour. How much clearer is the message?

Get off the fence.

RedToothBrush · 26/05/2019 23:07

Broxtowe (East Midlands) result: Brex: 35.9% (+35.9) LDem: 20.9% (+14.5) Grn: 13.5% (+5.7) Lab: 12.1% (-14.4) Con: 8.9% (-15.2) ChUK: 4.7% (+4.7) UKIP: 4.0% (-27.0)

Kingston upon Thames (London) result: LDem: 47.6% (+30.1) Brex: 19.4% (+19.4) Grn: 9.3% (-0.2) Con: 7.9% (-21.9) Lab: 7.6% (-8.8) UKIP: 2.0% (-17.4)
WOOOOOOOSHHHHH

South Lanarkshire (changes vs 2014); SNP - 40.7% (+11.2) Brex - 15.0% (+15.0) Lab - 12.5% (-21.0) Con - 10.7% (-3.1) Lib Dem - 10.6% (+7.0) Green - 6.3% (+0.3) ChUK - 2.0% (+2) UKIP - 1.8% (-9.2) Inds x 2 - 0.5% (+0.5)

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Quintella · 26/05/2019 23:08

Kingston upon Thames (London) result: LDem: 47.6% (+30.1)

Pretty emphatic!

WhatWouldScoobyDoo · 26/05/2019 23:09

So tired ... but can’t stop watching!

I think I need chocolate fudge traybake Grin

pretty I know you are the expert but that SNP swing in the Borders (traditionally very pro-union) looks very significant to me...

Can’t wait for our Edinburgh results from the huge 50% turnout!

Motherof3feminists · 26/05/2019 23:10

Quintella thank you, we'll be making that tomorrow I think Smile

woman19 · 26/05/2019 23:11

So far, it looks like only the UK has increased support for fascists

You are welcome to come over and stand against them in our streets BCF It's massive fun .Apart from their violence towards us. We've been doing it for 3 years. Thanks to us, mainly women, fighting these fascists we're having these EU elections. Smile

You're welcome.

BernardsarenotalwaysSaints · 26/05/2019 23:13

Stratford’s results are in. From the village fb account, our PC clerk is very efficient.

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tobee · 26/05/2019 23:17

Ahhh! All the excitement and a New Thread looming!!!!!!!

BigChocFrenzy · 26/05/2019 23:18

Sorry, woman, wasn't criticising those fighting the fascist in the UK
Just a shame the 2 main parties are mostly leaving it to activists to do so

It took a lot of campaigning and refusing to pander before the AfD started to go down

Pandering to fascists just makes them grow - the Tories should have realised this
and Labour should have been minding the shop, instead of staying in their allotment

tobee · 26/05/2019 23:20

Will the remain vote be split? Answer yes. Sad

borntobequiet · 26/05/2019 23:23

I used to live in Stratford. It was the archetypal “pin a blue rosette on any animal of your choice and it will win”.
How the mighty have fallen. Sad but not surprised BREX did so well. It’s a surprisingly socially divided place. The Brexit votes will have come from Cons as well as UKIP.

Littlespaces · 26/05/2019 23:49

Great. All the votes in my house counted for Molly in the SW. Smile

One Green seat
Two Lib Dem seats
Three Brexit seats

OhYouBadBadKitten · 26/05/2019 23:55

Been out for the night, now drinking Welsh whiskey. Not feeling as depressed as I might.

OhYouBadBadKitten · 27/05/2019 00:40

Widdecombe is hurting my ears.

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