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Westministenders: The One Where Everyone is an Election Expert For 3 Days

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RedToothBrush · 24/05/2019 17:40

The Vote has been cast.

The PM has quit. SHOCK!

We now face The Big Wait.

Waiting for the results. Waiting for the new leader. Waiting for a new direction.

Turnout looks likely to be up overall compared to 2014. Whether this is a good thing or a bad thing isn't clear.

At this stage realistically the only definite thing that I think you can actually speculate is the LDs have done very well indeed. Turnout is up in all traditional LD areas and remain areas in general. Though some LDs are getting a little carried away.

Does this mean that the Brexit Party will do badly? No. Its merely a reflection of demographic polarisation. And it may indeed help the Brexit Party ironically. It does suggest that Labour hasn't done well in the north (difference with 2014 turnouts worst in Labour areas) and there are hints that the Cons have done badly (Lincolnshire turnout for the locals was lower than for the EU elections). Something is happening in Wales. But no one seems to really understand what. Its gone 'rogue'!

Plus there are far more leave areas than remain ones. The increases in turnout possibly aren't enough to make a significant dent on the Brexit Party lead.

Not much of an increase in turnout in places like Derby, Middlesbrough, Hartlepool, Basildon, Leigh - which all have high leave figures suggest that the Brexit Party are not motivated those they persuaded to the polls for the first time in 2016 for the Ref to vote. Instead it means they can only increase their vote share with a further collapse in the Lab / Con vote from 2014. The question with this is how close were UKIP to the ceiling vote? If you didn't go with UKIP in 2014 would the ref change that? Does this mark it harder for them to hit close to 38% vote share? Argueably yes - but don't get too excited yet either. It doesn't mean they won't do very well, if there is a Lab/Con vote collaspe like the locals. I still would not be surprised by a mid-thirties result.

Psychologically the popular vote matters. This might be important for the future. The vote of those extra referedum voters hasn't been motivated by another protest vote under Farage. Who is going to try and court them? This affects the direction of all the parties.

The real issue is how the seats split down. With the vote fragmented between the LDs, Greens, Plaid and SNP the ranking is against them. And works for the Brexit Party.

Meanwhile Boris Johnson has vowed to crash the UK out the EU without a deal.... what internal numbers is he aware of???

Results due after 10pm Sunday.

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RedToothBrush · 26/05/2019 22:43

Ian Warren @election_data
First sign of Tory Remainer revolt imvho. Lib Dems have won Woking with 42,5% of the vote, up from 11.7% in 2014. A Con-LD swing of roughly 30%

30% SWING!!!

Jessica Elgot @jessicaelgot
Source from Lambeth - Lib Dems beat Labour by almost 10k votes. But Brexit party beats Change UK. Seems voters don’t actually need to be told by politicians about tactical voting and pacts... funny that!
Big Shout Out for Kate Hoey

Haringey (London) result: LDem: 31.7% (+20.2) Lab: 30.7% (-17.7) Grn: 18.6% (+3.4) Brex: 7.6% (+7.6) Con: 3.2% (-8.1) UKIP: 1.0% (-6.1)

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HazardGhost · 26/05/2019 22:43

Interesting brum results. We are singing never gonna give you up to Labour.... in spite of everything.

Motherof3feminists · 26/05/2019 22:45

I'm really disappointed in the damp squib that is Change UK. I was really excited that something new was happening to give us a chance. All talk and no trousers.

More disappointed that so many people in the UK happily vote for racist scum. Wtf is wrong with them all. It can't be an up yours to tories and labour as surely if they wanted to remain they'd have gone green or LD (unless PC or SNP an option) in their protest vote.

RedToothBrush · 26/05/2019 22:46

Bradford (Yorkshire & the Humber) result: Brex: 29.8% (+29.8) Lab: 28.8% (-10.6) LDem: 14.1% (+7.1) Grn: 11.0% (+4.2) Con: 6.7% (-9.8) UKIP: 3.7% (-21.1)

Kevin Schofield @PolhomeEditor
Jeremy Corbyn's office will be tearing their hair out right now. Emily T ripping up the Corbyn-approved lines to take and throwing them in the bin.

Labour source: "Top of the BBC election night programme is an opening batsman whose only job is to set out the script, downplay expectations and to focus the narrative on the other parties’ failings. Emily came out and dug up the pitch and publicly humiliated her team captain."

Warwick (West Midlands) result: LDem: 29.8% (+20.6) Brex: 25.2% (+25.2) Grn: 18.7% (+9.4) Con: 9.9% (-22.0) Lab: 9.5% (-12.3) UKIP: 2.6% (-20.3)
WARWICK??? Do the LDs have much history here????

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HazardGhost · 26/05/2019 22:47

Warwick is posh...

HagridsBigToe · 26/05/2019 22:48

I think Farage has actually played a smart political game.
No details re: Brexit- he is selling everybody their own fantasy.

RedToothBrush · 26/05/2019 22:48

West Lothian (changes vs 2014); SNP - 39.9% (+7.4) Brex - 16.4% (+16.4) Lab - 11.6% (-20.2) Lib Dem - 10.9% (+7.7) Con - 9.1% (-2.5) Green - 7.0% (+1) UKIP - 2.3% (-9.6) ChUK - 2.2% (+2.2) Inds x2 - 0.5% (+0.5)

Beth Rigby @BethRigby
Told LDs have won Islington
Its Official It Seems....

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BigChocFrenzy · 26/05/2019 22:48

Politicians in other countries rate the EP as highly important

SIX former Polish Prime Ministers will be sitting in the European Parliament:

Wlodzimierz Cimoszewicz (KE, 1996-1997)
Jerzy Buzek (KE, 1997-2001)
Leszek Miller (KE, 2001-2004)
Marek Belka (KE, 2004-2005)
Ewa Kopacz (KE, 2014-2015)
Beata Szydlo (PiS, 2015-2017)

RedToothBrush · 26/05/2019 22:49

Paul Waugh @paulwaugh
LibDems expecting 3 seats in London (out of 8) and 2 in Eastern region.

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SusanWalker · 26/05/2019 22:49

Europe Elects
@EuropeElects
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5m
UK: 21% counted.

Hard Brexit parties: 35.7%
Conservatives/Labour: 24.3%
Remain parties: 38.5%

RedToothBrush · 26/05/2019 22:50

Kensington & Chelsea (London) result: LDem: 36.0% (+29.4) Brex: 17.2% (+17.2) Lab: 13.9% (-8.0) Con: 13.3% (-28.8) Grn: 9.0% (+0.9) UKIP: 1.3% (-13.4)
WOWOWOWOWOWOW!

Islington (London) result: LDem: 27.5% (+18.6) Lab: 26.3% (-21.2) Grn: 18.1% (+2.4) Brex: 9.0% (+9.0) ChUK: 5.2% (+5.2) Con: 2.3% (-9.2)
AND HERE IT IS!!!! OUCH!

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Motherof3feminists · 26/05/2019 22:50

Good point @Hagrid. Will the brexit party actually do anything? Surely they won't be very pro-active in the EP because they don't actually want to be part of it? I can't get my head round that bit.

TaxiPlease · 26/05/2019 22:51

Beth Rigby
@BethRigby

NEW: Brexit party win 2 MEPs in North East. Labour takes the third. Brexit party polling 39% of vote. This was expected. Tories coming in 5th behind Brexit, Lab, LD, Greens

SwedishEdith · 26/05/2019 22:51

Sky just reported only one Brexit seat in Manchester? Not sure if meant extrapolating to NW?

HagridsBigToe · 26/05/2019 22:51

UKIP was never very active, so doubt it. Sticks in my throat that they'll be paid for it.

Cailleach1 · 26/05/2019 22:52

Mother, Lots of stupid voters so far then angry I can't believe anyone in their right mind would vote for the brexit party

The Kippers just swapped their vote to wherever Fromage is. That is the Kipper vote going to the BP.

I cannot believe you have Xmas choccies in and expect to withstand temptation for nigh on 7 months. Wishing you strength.

Motherof3feminists · 26/05/2019 22:53

SusanWalker that's cheered me up Smile

tobee · 26/05/2019 22:53

Can't see anything good happening for Labour going forward with king maker Len McCluskey talking bollocks on Brexit. Such views that will decimate his members. Tosser!

woman19 · 26/05/2019 22:53

WOWOWOWOWOWOW!
Yes.
Grenfell. Blood on one's hands.
Appalling result for Labour.

HazardGhost · 26/05/2019 22:54

Warwick- since boundary changes has had con or lab MPs. A centre ground area it seems, no lefty no likey and righty to tighty - so a lib dem would be appealing for MEP?

Apileofballyhoo · 26/05/2019 22:54

UKIP's huge share of the vote in the last EU elections didn't lead to winning a heap of seats in the GE though. Would it be any different for the Brexit Party?

I do wonder why people vote for a party to sit in the EP when they don't want the UK to be in the EP. The logic defies me.

BigChocFrenzy · 26/05/2019 22:54

Will Jennings@drjennings

Based on 180 authorities where we have data so far, turnout tends to be up most in areas that voted Remain in 2016
(analysis for Sky News)

Westministenders: The One Where Everyone is an Election Expert For 3 Days
RedToothBrush · 26/05/2019 22:54

East of England Final result
Brexit 3 seats
LDs 2 seats
Green 1 seat
Cons 1 seat

THE CONSERVATIVES HAVE WON A SEAT!!!

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lonelyplanetmum · 26/05/2019 22:54

More disappointed that so many people in the UK happily vote for racist scum

It's so fucking depressing. Racist,dishonest,policy-less, self promoting, non parliamentary, work shy, non collegiate, pension grabbing, backhander funded, Trump loving, sexist scum.

TaxiPlease · 26/05/2019 22:55

East of England, vote share:

Brex: 37.8% (+37.8)
LDem: 22.6% (+15.7)
Grn: 12.7% (+4.2)
Con: 10.2% (-18.2)
Lab: 8.7% (-8.6)
ChUK: 3.7% (+3.7)
UKIP: 3.4% (-31.1)