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Westministenders: The One Where Everyone is an Election Expert For 3 Days

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RedToothBrush · 24/05/2019 17:40

The Vote has been cast.

The PM has quit. SHOCK!

We now face The Big Wait.

Waiting for the results. Waiting for the new leader. Waiting for a new direction.

Turnout looks likely to be up overall compared to 2014. Whether this is a good thing or a bad thing isn't clear.

At this stage realistically the only definite thing that I think you can actually speculate is the LDs have done very well indeed. Turnout is up in all traditional LD areas and remain areas in general. Though some LDs are getting a little carried away.

Does this mean that the Brexit Party will do badly? No. Its merely a reflection of demographic polarisation. And it may indeed help the Brexit Party ironically. It does suggest that Labour hasn't done well in the north (difference with 2014 turnouts worst in Labour areas) and there are hints that the Cons have done badly (Lincolnshire turnout for the locals was lower than for the EU elections). Something is happening in Wales. But no one seems to really understand what. Its gone 'rogue'!

Plus there are far more leave areas than remain ones. The increases in turnout possibly aren't enough to make a significant dent on the Brexit Party lead.

Not much of an increase in turnout in places like Derby, Middlesbrough, Hartlepool, Basildon, Leigh - which all have high leave figures suggest that the Brexit Party are not motivated those they persuaded to the polls for the first time in 2016 for the Ref to vote. Instead it means they can only increase their vote share with a further collapse in the Lab / Con vote from 2014. The question with this is how close were UKIP to the ceiling vote? If you didn't go with UKIP in 2014 would the ref change that? Does this mark it harder for them to hit close to 38% vote share? Argueably yes - but don't get too excited yet either. It doesn't mean they won't do very well, if there is a Lab/Con vote collaspe like the locals. I still would not be surprised by a mid-thirties result.

Psychologically the popular vote matters. This might be important for the future. The vote of those extra referedum voters hasn't been motivated by another protest vote under Farage. Who is going to try and court them? This affects the direction of all the parties.

The real issue is how the seats split down. With the vote fragmented between the LDs, Greens, Plaid and SNP the ranking is against them. And works for the Brexit Party.

Meanwhile Boris Johnson has vowed to crash the UK out the EU without a deal.... what internal numbers is he aware of???

Results due after 10pm Sunday.

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Pilcrow · 26/05/2019 22:55

Eastern region declaring its MEPS.

3 x Brex

2 x LD

1 x Green

1 x Con

( I think I've got that right - someone please check!)

Motherof3feminists · 26/05/2019 22:56

I've just checked my drawers and I have one tin of quality street, 3 boxes of after 8 mints, one packet of chocolate hobnobs and 3 packets of pink panther wafers. I need to move them out of my bedroom.

RedToothBrush · 26/05/2019 22:56

The Britain Elects Prediction had 3 BP, 2 LD, 1 Con and 1 Lab. So the greens getting ahead of Labour is a shock.

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Pilcrow · 26/05/2019 22:56

Sorry, Red, you're on 🔥!!

(East is my region btw)

SusanWalker · 26/05/2019 22:57

Oh god I love chocolate hobnobs.

BigChocFrenzy · 26/05/2019 22:57

"I've just checked my drawers"

Careful motherof3 Chocs will melt there !

RedToothBrush · 26/05/2019 22:57

Kettering (East Midlands) result: Brex: 41.1% (+41.1) LDem: 16.7% (+12.9) Con: 12.1% (-18.8) Grn: 10.4% (+5.5) Lab: 10.3% (-9.2) UKIP: 4.9% (-31.3)

Bromley (London) result: Brex: 32.1% (+32.1) LDem: 27.7% (+22.0) Grn: 12.2% (+4.2) Con: 11.4% (-21.0) Lab: 8.9% (-6.9) UKIP: 2.7% (-28.4)

Herefordshire (West Midlands) result: Brex: 39.6% (+39.6) LDem: 20.6% (+11.9) Grn: 15.9% (+6.6) Con: 10.8% (-22.6) UKIP: 4.7% (-28.1) Lab: 4.3% (-6.3)

Redditch (West Midlands) result: Brex: 43.2% (+43.2) LDem: 14.1% (+10.6) Lab: 12.3% (-12.9) Con: 11.6% (-13.1) Grn: 8.8% (+4.8) UKIP: 5.9% (-30.3)

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HagridsBigToe · 26/05/2019 22:59

Pretty much as expected in the East, I think. Fuck those who voted English Democrats in particular.

BigChocFrenzy · 26/05/2019 22:59

Tom Rayner@RaynerSkyNews

Rumour at the London count, with results expected imminently, is the the Lib Dems have won 3 of the 8 MEP positions.

In 2014 they didn’t win a single seat

TaxiPlease · 26/05/2019 23:00

CONFIRMED London result: Lib Dems win 3 MEPs, Labour 2 MEPs, Brexit Party 2 MEPs, Green Party 1 MEP

OhLookHeKickedTheBall · 26/05/2019 23:00

Result has been announced in Havering, but not in a great format yet. Was very nearly 70% leave. Brexit Party just under 50%, Lib Dems second just under 12% pipping Labour by just under 1k votes

Quintella · 26/05/2019 23:00

I made a choc fudge traybake and have some red wine. I'm all set.

HazardGhost · 26/05/2019 23:00

basil we're looking like twattish turquoise terror turtles...

MaudBaileysGreenTurban · 26/05/2019 23:01

Still, good news that Yaxley-Lennon has had a thrashing, eh? Every cloud and all that.

woman19 · 26/05/2019 23:01

Far right down in Denmark Far right Vox only got 6% in Spain, compared to 10% in GE

Lesson in there BCF ?Smile Use it or lose it.

Little song I found:
And here's to you Tommeh Robinson The people hate you more than you will know Go go go

I do hope the Liberal Democrats live up to current expectations.

SwedishEdith · 26/05/2019 23:01

East of England is the Brexityest place in the UK.

HazardGhost · 26/05/2019 23:01

This is why there's a difference between Birmingham and the surrounding areas Confused

Motherof3feminists · 26/05/2019 23:01

Quintella please could you tell me the recipe as that sounds lovely?

BigChocFrenzy · 26/05/2019 23:02

Most Leavers caren't fascist,

but Brexit has revealed how many people either support fascists & racists or will use them - they think - to get something they want

Cherrypi · 26/05/2019 23:02

Greens are doing well. Glad brexit didn't win any more seats than UKIP did previously in the East.

tobee · 26/05/2019 23:03

Ooh choc fudge traybake 🥰🥰🥰

EveLevine · 26/05/2019 23:03

So disappointed that Labour have managed to beat LD in Wales.

Voted tactically for LD, as did most of my friends and family, as remain voter suggested they had the best chance of beating Labour.

Wish we'd all stuck with Plaid now.

TaxiPlease · 26/05/2019 23:03

Britain Elects
‏*@britainelects*

bins forecast

RedToothBrush · 26/05/2019 23:03

London Results
Lib Dems top

LDs 3
2 Lab
2 brexit
1 green

NO CONS

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Motherof3feminists · 26/05/2019 23:04

More angry tears from TM tonight I expect. How to alienate your electorate. She should write a book.