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Massive family fallouts over covid

203 replies

mywombisfittoburst · 19/10/2021 23:25

My DM and step father went a bit crazy over Covid last year. Very very OTT, very judgey about anyone "breaking the rules" and both live in fear of catching it, seemingly convinced that if they do they will die.

DS is 14 and doesn't want to be vaccinated. I respect his decision. My DM is going crackers about it. Calling me up, ranting at me that I need to change his mind, trying to emotionally blackmail him - eg "what if he gives to me or DGP and one of us dies" "doesn't he care" "he won't be able to come for Xmas" and so on.

We're basically being made to feel like shit about this and I don't know how to deal with it Sad

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Nikki078 · 22/10/2021 02:33

I'd say relationship fallouts like this rarely happen without previous warning signs, and typically mean other issues too.

PurpleOkapi · 22/10/2021 05:20

@Derbee

I think it’s more likely that there’s going to be a lot of middle aged and young people feeling like plonkers when they can’t go anywhere or do anything because they can’t get a vaccine passport. They’ll have to decide to stop being wankers, and get with the programme.
More likely, enough of them will just start doing it anyway that it will be unenforceable on a practical level. Rather like what happened with every other restriction that's ever been attempted.
WhereIsMumHiding3 · 22/10/2021 06:41

@Chloemol

Let them rant. It’s his choice

If that means none of you see your DM for Christmas that’s her problem, not yours

This ^
OverTheRubicon · 22/10/2021 07:12

@PurpleOkapi which would be a sad indictment of UK society, given that even the middle aged and young plonkers of most other European countries managed to get to a vaccine centre once passports came in.

Derbee · 22/10/2021 13:46

@PurpleOkapi luckily, no matter how much of a wanker someone is, they can’t override immigration rules in other countries. They can’t override admission policies to large scale events.

They can parade around a shopping centre or supermarket without a mask, but they will find international travel and large scale events will rightly be off limits for them, until they hand over their wanker badges and take the vaccine

Needspace21 · 22/10/2021 13:48

His body his choice. She's totally wrong to impose her views on your son. Does she not trust her own vaccines to protect her?

AllThingsServeTheBeam · 22/10/2021 13:53

What would she do if he was younger and couldn't have it yet?

RobinPenguins · 22/10/2021 13:58

They need to get a grip. Until they do, I’d be keeping away in case they do catch it, which could happen from any source, and attempt to blame or guilt trip your DS in some way. That kind of blaming is potentially really damaging and it’s the part of the current public discourse I hate the most.

YetAnotherSpartacus · 22/10/2021 14:07

DS will get a vaccine when he realises it will harm his opportunities and social life if he does not.

Until then his grandparents will do well to look after themselves and steer clear.

Remmy123 · 22/10/2021 14:09

@RobinPenguins they can still catch it from
Him even when vaccinated!!

Odd that they have been happy to see him up until now!! Strange people .. this has made people really lose thier mind.

Remmy123 · 22/10/2021 14:12

@Werehamster he is 14!!!!!

Some people are real bullies on here.

RobinPenguins · 22/10/2021 14:15

[quote Remmy123]@RobinPenguins they can still catch it from
Him even when vaccinated!!

Odd that they have been happy to see him up until now!! Strange people .. this has made people really lose thier mind.[/quote]
I know, that’s why I think until they get a grip of themselves and stop the hysteria the OP should stay away, because they sound like they’ll be blaming her DS if anything happens. What if he was a little younger and not able to be vaccinated? Would they shun him until he was old enough? I’m so glad my parents aren’t behaving like this about my young DC!

WildfirePonie · 22/10/2021 14:31

If she is vaccinated then what exactly is she afraid of? She's protected, yes? Or does DS need a jab for hers to work?

ThePoisonousMushroom · 22/10/2021 17:21

@YetAnotherSpartacus

DS will get a vaccine when he realises it will harm his opportunities and social life if he does not.

Until then his grandparents will do well to look after themselves and steer clear.

And you think it’s ok for a child’s opportunities to be harmed because they’ve decided against taking an optional vaccine that they don’t need?

🤯

WitchyNameChange · 22/10/2021 17:24

@YetAnotherSpartacus

DS will get a vaccine when he realises it will harm his opportunities and social life if he does not.

Until then his grandparents will do well to look after themselves and steer clear.

What a vile attitude towards a child.
YetAnotherSpartacus · 22/10/2021 19:25

I think it’s more likely that there’s going to be a lot of middle aged and young people feeling like plonkers when they can’t go anywhere or do anything because they can’t get a vaccine passport. They’ll have to decide to stop being wankers, and get with the programme

Yep. Self-interest is a wonderful motivator!

PurpleOkapi · 22/10/2021 20:18

@YetAnotherSpartacus

I think it’s more likely that there’s going to be a lot of middle aged and young people feeling like plonkers when they can’t go anywhere or do anything because they can’t get a vaccine passport. They’ll have to decide to stop being wankers, and get with the programme

Yep. Self-interest is a wonderful motivator!

Self-interest has worked out pretty well for the CEVs and hypochondriacs thus far. I suspect the less-entitled majority can achieve the same results when they get sufficiently fed up with arranging their lives around the whims of a vocal minority.
Wellbythebloodyhell · 22/10/2021 22:23

And as we are all aware vaccine proof is already required for children over 12 in some countries if you want to holiday there

Completely pointless argument and reason to vaccinate, as dc are only being offered 1 dose in the UK so would still be classed as unvaccinated by other countries

Wellbythebloodyhell · 22/10/2021 22:25

Quite alarming how there can be such serious damaging vile views of children on a parenting forum Shock

Derbee · 23/10/2021 00:08

@Wellbythebloodyhell

Quite alarming how there can be such serious damaging vile views of children on a parenting forum Shock
Just because you’re 14, doesn’t mean you can’t also be a dick. An antivaxer 14 year old is still an antivaxer. Therefore a dick
Werehamster · 23/10/2021 00:41

[quote Remmy123]@Werehamster he is 14!!!!!

Some people are real bullies on here.[/quote]
What on Earth did I say that could be construed as bullying? Confused

It seems the strawman defenders have arrived. 🙄

Unreasonabubble · 23/10/2021 01:14

No problem as far as I can see. If he does not want to see his GM again, no worries.

GummyBearWhere · 23/10/2021 03:27

Natural selection.

madisonbridges · 23/10/2021 03:40

@WitchyNameChange

YetAnotherSpartacus
DS will get a vaccine when he realises it will harm his opportunities and social life if he does not.
Until then his grandparents will do well to look after themselves and steer clear.

What a vile attitude towards a child.

I understand you might not agree with Spartacus, but why do you think it's vile against a child in particular?

Cascascascas · 23/10/2021 03:49

@mywombisfittoburst

You need to convince your dear son.