27 children have been murdered by the IOF every day for 650 days in Gaza (UNICEF)

[Wedonttalkaboutboris]

Facts:

• At least 15,000 children have been killed since the war began in October 2023.
• Many have died in airstrikes, building collapses, or stampedes at aid sites.
• Thousands more have been injured, often with life-altering wounds, burns, or amputations.
• Gaza is facing famine-like conditions.
• Children are eating grass, leaves, or going days without food.
• Severe malnutrition is widespread, especially in northern Gaza. Babies and toddlers are dying of hunger-related causes.
• Nearly all children in Gaza are now considered to have signs of acute psychological trauma:
• Nightmares
• Bedwetting
• Non-responsiveness (shutdown/dissociation)
• Panic at loud sounds
• Many have lost one or both parents, siblings, or entire families.
• Most hospitals have been bombed or shut down.
• Children can’t access basic care, vaccines, or treatment for chronic illnesses.
• Wounded kids are operated on without anesthesia in some cases.
• Over 1 million children have been displaced—many multiple times.
• Families sleep in tents, rubble, or outdoors with no clean water or toilets.
• Nearly all schools have been shut down, destroyed, or turned into shelters.
• Many teachers and schoolchildren have been killed.
• A whole generation risks growing up with no access to education or safety.
• Children are drinking dirty water, leading to diarrheal diseases and infections.
• Outbreaks of hepatitis, lice, and scabies are widespread.
• Even in declared “safe zones” or aid areas, children have been shot, suffocated in stampedes, or killed by nearby strikes.
• Some have died while queuing for water or food.

“There is no safe place left for children in Gaza. They are being killed, starved, maimed, and psychologically shattered. This is not a humanitarian crisis—this is a crisis of humanity.”
— Save the Children, July 2025

Yup, the same ones who brought terrorism to the region in the 1940s via armed terrorist gangs (Lehi, Irgun, Haganah), assassinations, letter bombs and blowing up buildings. Then went on to elect former members of these gangs to Government.

Sorry, is Hamas preventing 9000 aid trucks on the border from entering Gaza? Is Hamas preventing formula from entering? Is Hamas literally starving newborn babies?
No. So don’t pretend they are.

I think both Hamas and the government of Netanyahu are terrorists.

OK MN.

Why do you think the Jews needed to arm themselves?

It started before the 1940s.

https://www.fondapol.org/en/study/pogroms-in-palestine-before-the-creation-of-the-state-of-israel-1830-1948/

So @BelleHathor does not think the plane hijackings, massacre of an entire Olympics team, suicide bombings, mass shootings and stabbing rampages, and of course Oct 7th are terrorism?

Pretty inconvenient that some people are aware and educated on this truth, no?

Yet it still doesn’t justify this reaction. Nothing could justify withholding aid and literal food from children and babies.

Have you seen what's on offer? They're all far right. This 'more moderate people will lead the next government', isn't going to happen.

“One way or another”? So is one way gunning down civilians at aid trucks, and another starving babies to death in incubators?

You don’t have to be an expert to see this isn’t about removing Hamas- it’s the deliberate destruction of a civilian population. Thousands of children have died. This isn’t strategy. It’s atrocity.

Do you condemn the murder of 20,000 children?

Where did I say it did exactly?

I was responding to @BelleHathor’s post that the Jews were the terrorists (she was referring to a period before the state of Israel, so not to Israel) and continue to be to this day, which is an extremely suspect opinion IMO.

And I think it’s important to separate that from the very real, urgent humanitarian crisis happening now- especially when children’s lives are at stake. Nobody should ever withhold aid or basic necessities from innocent people. Recognising the complexity of history doesn’t mean we turn a blind eye to present suffering.

Agree .

And the Palestinian civilians especially children are the victims in all this

No I mean one way of removing Hamas would be for them to agree to disarm and leave Gaza as part of a ceasefire deal.

Another way would be for the IDF to carry on killing Hamas leaders and militants & dismantling all the buildings they could be hiding in (or hiding weapons in) until they are no longer a threat militarily.

The first way would obviously be much better for the people of Gaza but unfortunately Hamas are still opting for the other way. The reason why I cannot possibly imagine. Maybe they want to be martyrs or want their people to be martyrs because most armies would have surrendered by this point.

I call the death of thousands of children in Gaza a massive tragedy but not murder because the children weren't being targeted by the IDF.

You seem to think the IDF targeted them but I think they targeted civilian buildings in their pursuit of Hamas. I don't believe we will ever agree on this because it mainly boils down to whether you see the IDF as a normal army or one which is inexplicably made up of evil people who enjoy killing civilians for no apparent gain.

Come on. At this point it’s either wilful ignorance or deliberate minimisation of war crimes. There is verified footage of children being shot at aid points, including graphic evidence of direct targeting. This isn’t unfortunate “collateral damage”- it’s systemic, repeated, and well-documented by international bodies.

Saying “it’s not murder because they weren’t the target” is a moral and legal evasion. If you bomb schools, hospitals and aid queues knowing children are there, that’s not an accident. It’s a choice.

Why are you directing this at me?

I RESPONDED to @BelleHathor bringing up history.

Is the issue that I responded to that post?

@Twiglets1 You’re downplaying mass child deaths by calling them a “tragedy” rather than what they are: preventable, state-sanctioned killings. Whether or not a child is “intended” as a target is irrelevant when bombs are repeatedly dropped on residential areas, schools, and hospitals. That’s not strategy!

Not the Israeli civilians and children as well?

But right now, Palestinian children are dying every day in their thousands with nowhere safe to run, no access to aid, and no shelter from the bombs.

This isn’t whataboutery; it’s about recognising where the overwhelming scale of suffering lies today. Compassion isn’t finite! We can mourn all children lost while still being truthful about where the violence is happening NOW!

@Twiglets1 Also, with regards to Hamas agreeing to disarm: Many people in Hamas and Palestine don’t trust that Israel would actually lift the blockade or stop the violence even if Hamas disarmed. After the PLO agreed to peace talks in the past, promises weren’t kept. There was ongoing settlement expansion, military raids, and displacement in the West Bank and Gaza was under blockade even before October 7th, despite years of calm.

The Likelihood is that even if they gave up their weapons, they’d still be stuck under siege- only without any way to defend themselves.

Exactly.

40,000 orphans

Highest number of child amputees.

69 children and counting dead from starvation.(So far expected to ride)

No education for two years.

1 million children displaced and homeless.

49% want to die because of the conflict.

I don't know if it's really a comparable situation but am open to hearing how it is.

Why do you believe the narrative of those with no actual info who parrot Hamas's lines?

https://gaza-aid-data.gov.il/main/

If you look at Israel's history with the so-called OTs, any restrictions of movement were always done as a response to terrorism.

Even the 'blockade' on Gaza was a response to the Gazans electing a terrorist government that was committed to the total destruction of Israel. A plan, I should point out, they tried to implement many times by firing hundreds of thousands of rockets at civilian areas in Israel.

There is a question I've asked many people irl and have never received a proper answer: if someone vows to fight you to the death, what choice do you have other than accepting their terms?

Please answer this.

The war ends today if the Gazan government surrenders and releases the hostages. Why don't they?

How bloody despicable they weren’t offered safety in a nearby safe country then!

Why aren’t they being now?

Do you really think those kids care more about their land more than being killed or injured, or not having food and an education? Or more about their land than their family members being killed or injured?

Who has made that choice for them?

Is there a comparable situation of kids being deliberately kept in a densely populated urban war zone to be used as human sacrifices for their terrorist government?

Israel should let them in

I agree the deaths are preventable @Wedonttalkaboutboris but it’s Hamas who should be preventing them by surrendering.

Hamas also could have prevented the deaths by not starting a war against an enemy much stronger militarily than themselves in the first place. Or by not hiding out in civilian areas or under civilian buildings like hospitals.

I guess they assumed Iran would run to protect them & it would have been Israel children & babies dying instead. But it didn’t work out that way so Hamas should have surrendered a long time ago. Every day they don’t means more civilian deaths.

I think this is true , at this point.