Israeli army strapped wounded Palestinian to jeep

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just going to leave this here....

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/cjqq5n8911do

if you have nothing compassionate to say, feel free to move on and not comment on this thread. feel sick to my stomach

Wow, I mean I knew there was Palestinian hostages unlawfully held but didn't realise there was quite so many, shameful behaviour once again

Because his family wasn’t following the IDF vehicle. The latest version doesn’t say ‘back where he started from’, but ‘driven back and forth for 20 mins.’ So could have been dumped anywhere along the back and forth route.

I repeat, there are no Palestinian hostages. Definition of a hostage: ‘a person seized or held as security for the fulfilment of a condition’. Even what you describe does not align with the definition of a hostage.

Another strange thing to claim.

Shani Louk is not alive and well. She was raped and murdered by Hamas.

No source, no evidence, a work of fiction.

Well some are state hostages by that definition.

The IDF routinely detain and imprison the known to be innocent relatives and children of suspects pending that suspect turning themselves in for interrogation.

That's only one of the sickening statements, that's been posted here today. Disgusting.

Breaks talk guidelines by directly referencing another thread which is goady and inflammatory.

Please stop doing this.

@Livelovebehappy

""There are no Palestinian hostages. They’re prisoners, locked up for breaking the law."

And I repeat, what law?

? The source was the video itself from the opening post and the interview linked later in the thread.

Your comment means you have not looked at any source, or watched any of the evidence already posted in the thread.

No, no evidence other than video footage, eyewitness accounts, the account of the victim and the IDF's admission of wrongdoing.

Well that's shows the extent of your critical thinking.

There are indeed Palestinian hostages, men women AND children, being unlawfully held, the MAJORITY of those being held have never been convicted of any crime, when are israel going to start handing those back?

When they no longer pose a threat.

Keep it up.

Including one by you, disgusting.

Please explain why children would pose a threat?

But what you quoted was a statement from Mujahed Azmi, the Palestinian strapped to the jeep. Solely from him. No other witness statements to back up his new version of events. Only his words.

😆 🤣

Israel say different. They’re held for security breaches/offences. Held until a trial takes place, however long that might be whilst evidence is obtained. That’s what happens in the majority of the worlds prisons, even the UK. People are arrested, sometimes bailed, sometimes detained until trial.

You've made a number of strange claims.

2.1 million people haven't been murdered or starved. Too many innocent people have died though.

There is a current conflict which started after 7th October mass insurgency into Israel. Its horrible and the latest suggested ceasefire agreement by the US was rejected by Hamas, in what the US described as unworkable changes required. I'd rather believe the US than Hamas. On and on it goes. Innocent people in the middle.

That’s not what Israel says at all and what happens isn’t at all like “the majority of world’s prisons” because Palestinians are not under civil law, but martial law. It’s an entirely different system. There is no bail. There doesn’t have to be a trial. There is no jury or justice/judge.

That’s what happens in the majority of the worlds prisons, even the UK. People are arrested, sometimes bailed, sometimes detained until trial.

No it isn't
The police can hold you for up to 24 hours before they have to charge you with a crime or release you. They can apply to hold you for up to 36 or 96 hours if you're suspected of a serious crime, such as murder. You can be held without charge for up to 14 days If you're arrested under the Terrorism Act.

https://www.gov.uk/arrested-your-rights/how-long-you-can-be-held-in-custody#:~:text=The%20police%20can%20hold%20you,arrested%20under%20the%20Terrorism%20Act.

Yes that is what I meant. Thank you for making this clearer @Livelovebehappy

Sorry? What about all the displaced Palestinian refugees who have lost their homes and no right of return? Who is the one who has the right to defend themselves when someone is bulldozing your home? What happened to Rachel Corrie wasn’t an accident. To what extent are Palestinians allowed to defend themselves to be protected from a genocide?

Why isn’t Israel doing more for the hostages? Why is it that IDF have “accidentally” killed their own hostages because they just couldn’t tell? How is it that the IDF knew about the World Central Kitchen and killed them anyway? It was pretty clear they were gunned down.

Or is it just that Hamas have to be moral but Israel and the IDF aren’t held to the same moral standards? Why is it that Orthodox Jews who are against Israel’s policies are being attacked? Why doesn’t Israel just simply stop building more settlements? Why are Jews who are against Zionist policies called self-hating Jews?

Reality is very complicated and Israel needs to do more to start the peace process and if that means to negotiate so that they can have their hostages return, that’s something they should be considering and doing everything they can to ensure there is a peace process. Instead even if there is an an arms embargo, you have the likes of Russia et al arming Israel, so what can Palestinians actually do?