Admitting Gazan refugees would be proof that Britain has a death wish

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Camilla Tominey in the Telegraph today.
The sheer level of hatred in this article horrifies me. Am I wrong to feel so shocked by this?

Can you link the article?

Sorry, I can't link but here's the pic.

You're not wrong to feel anything. Doesn't mean she's necessarily wrong either.

I’m happy to send generous foreign aid, but I don’t want any more refugees arriving in the UK

We are full, to put it simply

If that makes me a bigot then you lack critical thinking

Why is Egypt, Saidia arbia, UAE, libya, Iran, etc, etc and Egypt being right next door and a massive country are not allowing people temp access to their country? There you have the answer.

NB: If you don't know the answer to the above, please ask

Can you pick out the bits you find particularly hateful?

I agree. Whoever says "we are full' is a) wrong b) doesn't understand economic viability c) absolutely lacks any human decency.

Lets hope their children never have to suffer this way

Wow, what a disgusting title and standfirst, so I can't imagine the article is any better.

Have we had a problem with radical Islamists?

Do we know that all Gazans are peaceniks?

Will our Jewish communities feel or be threatened by people who participated in/supported 7/10? Hint- many already are.

Honest answers, not idealogically sound ones.

We live in the real world not the ideal one, or Israel and Gaza would have been peacefully co-existing by now.

Exactly and this is why Egypt has to open her borders. Its a vast country and has a lot of open spaces right next to Refah. Egypt is making feeble excuses and IMO, the people in Egypt must demonstrate to demand the people of Gaza are allowed to come over for safety until Hamas is eradicated. Then Gaza could be rebuilt and the people of gaza along with the people of Israel will live in safety and free.

Release the hostages, remove Hamas and proxies and settlers from the West bank, all will be good

Hamas has only one friend, itself

On another thread someone said that for them and many other people/ many Arabs (their words) what happened on October 7th is “a legitimate expression of the right of resistance to oppression”.
Of course it’s just one person’s statement, but they do seem to think their view quite common…

We are no where near geographically full,

We are however in lots of areas beyond capacity for things like school places, doctors appt and dentists appts and housing. Thank the Tories!

Why would it be appropriate for people from Gaza to bypass all the countries around them and move to the UK? Surely they are culturally more suited to their neighbouring countries?

I can’t see a legitimate reason for the UK to be a better destination than all of those on the doorstep.

The Telegraph is a Tory newspaper. I'm not sure why anyone would particularly expect a right wing Tory journalist to have any compassion for people who are suffering. The article is entirely in keeping with what I would expect.

Which impartial news sources would you recommend?

I think you can have compassion for people whilst also acknowledging that the UK is probably not best suited to taking in large numbers of refugees from Gaza. I think there are many more suitable countries.

Agreed.
Never thought I would feel like this but I do.
Fully support foreign aid but I would worry we are importing danger to british jews.

In isolation, is it right wing to refuse any amount of refugees from anywhere under any circumstances? Curious to hear the answer from anyone who considers themself very left wing.

Do go ahead and tell me how you would house and support (for example) 20,000 refugees arriving tomorrow and which budgets would you reduce to support them?

I'm very pro-immigration, and I would not support allowing large numbers of Palestinian refugees into the UK.

Contrary to what the article says, we do have a reasonable idea of what Gaza residents think of Hamas and the attacks, because it gets polled regularly, including by Palestinian-run polling organisations.

The latest data I could find:

71% of Gazans support the October attacks on Israel (see link)
5% believe that Hamas committed war crimes (separate poll)

Many countries in the region have given shelter to Palestinians groups at one time or another, and regretted it because it destabilised their politics.

www.pcpsr.org/en/node/969

I am a strong supporter of increased immigration, on economic grounds, liberty grounds, and humanitarian grounds. For that to be democratically legitimate and politically feasible it must be, and be seen to be, beneficial, or at least benign.

Mass migration from a deeply traumatised population the large majority of which (71%) support a terrorist slaughter is not going to help that. If I had grown up in Gaza, I'd probably be amongst the 71% (no reason to believe I wouldn't be). But that doesn't change the risk profile.

Completely agree with @GeneralPeter

there’s a reason the surrounding countries won’t take them

Ukrainians bypassed plenty of countries to seek refuge here.

I'm sorry but if you think 'we are full' then you lack critical thinking. What does 'full' mean? What is your metric? Are you taking about population per square mile for example? Some parts of our major cities are overcrowded but most of the country is quite sparsely populated.In some areas schools are closing because of lack of children. Issues around nhs provision are down to bad planning and can be fixed.
As signatories to the refugee convention we have responsibilities to refugees and most refugees wish to return home when the conflict is over so denying their right to asylum is just silly. Especially when we have a huge body of evidence of the value of refugees to this country.

Why is it our responsibility to take thousands of refugees from Gaza? Where are they going to live? Young people in this country are desperately in need of their own homes but they are stuck living with parents well into their 20s due to the housing crisis. They are surrounded by countries that are more than capable of helping them. Send aid by all means but we cannot open our doors to thousands every time there is a crisis in the world.

Ukraine has a lot of similarities to uk- weather, cultural religion, farming, diet at least broadly.
It’s European. It’s a big place, so loads of variety, but more similar to uk than Gaza.