To say the London Palestinian marches should be stopped

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They are weekly marches found to be organised by organisations with links to Hamas, and at least one ex Hamas member.

They are supporting a terrorist organisation that has just committed the deadliest day in Israel’s history. An Iranian dissident was arrested for holding a sign saying Hamas is Terrorist, despite the fact that they are a UK-designated terrorist organisation - because protestors assaulted him on seeing the sign.

If they were calling for peace and fewer casualties they would be condemning Hamas and calling for them to surrender.

AIBU to think this is deeply disturbing and has no place on the streets of London. Note - terrorist support is illegal and not protected speech.

Oh my days, the amount of people jumping onto the ‘it’s genocide’ bandwagon is disturbing.

It really is not and your ignorance is embarrassing.

This! 👏👏 I've never understood why they don't.

But they aren’t supporting Hamas. They’re protesting against the UK governments support of Israel.

Because they want to be loud and performative and to virtue signal, rather than do anything useful or effective.

And

I'm still looking for proof that I'm a genocide supporter.

Answers on a postcard please

Have you been on a March? Lots of Jewish people and I think very few (if any) actively support Hamas or the attacks on Israel.
Plus if people hold these views surely better to have a legal, open route for them to be expressed. Even if you dislike the views themselves banning the marches won’t stop people holding them, they will just find other (more dangerous) ways to make their objections known.

Whilst I do believe in the right to protest, there does have to be a balance between that and making sure all communities feel safe and welcome in London. I'm not sure there's a simple answer. I'm also quite concerned about the amount of police resources that must be being used up every weekend policing these marches.

Not sure if that comment makes me a genocide supporter....

Yes and this "war" was illegal.
Kofi Annan, United Nations Secretary-General at the time, called the invasion illegal under international law and said it was a breach of the UN Charter.

It doesn’t matter how many times we explain this, it doesn’t fit with certain posters agendas.

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@ohlookimbackagain

"But they aren’t supporting Hamas. They’re protesting against the UK governments support of Israel."

However the few at the protests that have held posters condemning Hamas as a terrorist organisation have been physically attacked by some of the protesters.

The protesters claim that they denounce the actions of Hamas and do not support it, however I don't think any would be willing to attend one of the protests with a banner stating this.

Now this is either because they are scared of being attacked by the protesters (which is not exactly freedom of speech) or because they don't denounce the actions of Hamas and indeed do support it.

It's because it isn't true, they do support Hamas.

Because they are opposed to the actions of Israel and the UKs unequivocal support of it?

A pp argued that no-one would be protesting if another Muslim country was attacking Gaza but I’m willing to bet this hypothetical country wouldn’t have lots of support/money/arms being handed over by our government (and other western regimes)

"Did you see the video of Israeli troops burying people alive with a bulldozer"

What??? @trippily where was this reported?

I've been on a couple of those marches and I do not support Hamas or any other terrorist organisation.

My friends and I were there to show solidarity with the ordinary civilians living in Gaza, the people killed and injured, made homeless and hungry, unable to get clean water or medical treatment because of the totally disproportionate bombardment by the IDF.

I would say that the vast majority of people there were like us: not supporting terror, but marching for peace.

This is a shockingly distasteful post.
The court cannot rule genocide so quickly they are continuing to look at the case and in the meantime time issued court orders to immediately prevent genocide as it was deemed there was a risk of it occuring..
What a disgustingly flippant comment to make when 32k people are dead, most of whom are women and children.

Again NONE of that is cause by the average Palestinian citizen.

It's all a shit show

Maybe the fact that the IDF keep deliberately killing aid workers? 196. Perfectly reasonable for people to protest their governments support of that.

What about the London pro palestine marches though (which is what is being discussed) 🤔

@Comedycook - I wish the civil war in Sudan which has displaced millions of people and left them facing starvation would stop. Such a shame no one protests over it. I wonder why?
Anyone can start a protest march, so what's stopping you from doing it? I'm sure you will get many people joining you on that one, same for the other examples you gave later. I wonder why you don't 🤔

I'm not inclined to march for any conflict in particular. I just wonder why this particular conflict sees hundreds of thousands turn out every week over other conflicts. It really is a mystery....

So they should protest in Israel/Gaza for their message to be more effective?

Oh nonsense you can't just rock over there and ask if you can lend a hand. How ludicrous. It's also not cowardly to not want to be killed. You talk complete bullshit.

And you can say they're protesting because our government supports Israel...but if Israel was not a Jewish state and this conflict was between hamas and another Muslim country, no one would give a dam who our government supported.

@ohlookimbackagain

Saudi involvement in the Yemeni Civil War maybe? Don't seem to remember many protests about that.

But Israel aren't attempting to attack the average citizen. They are attacking Hamas, who deliberately hide themselves within population centres. They do this rather than tell their citizens to flee. Civilian deaths are upsetting, but they're on Hamas, not Israel.

It isn't my quote, but I agree with it. If Israel wanted to commit genocide with would just get out the heavy bombers and carpet bomb. Don't forget that it is common knowledge they have the bomb too.

Genocide is a hard hitting word that those who hate Israel think they can just shout and it will win the argument.