To say the London Palestinian marches should be stopped

[KarmaCaramello]

They are weekly marches found to be organised by organisations with links to Hamas, and at least one ex Hamas member.

They are supporting a terrorist organisation that has just committed the deadliest day in Israel’s history. An Iranian dissident was arrested for holding a sign saying Hamas is Terrorist, despite the fact that they are a UK-designated terrorist organisation - because protestors assaulted him on seeing the sign.

If they were calling for peace and fewer casualties they would be condemning Hamas and calling for them to surrender.

AIBU to think this is deeply disturbing and has no place on the streets of London. Note - terrorist support is illegal and not protected speech.

People have been protesting about Israel's treatment of Palestinians since they annexed Gaza from Egypt in 1967. Not on this scale, but Israel hasn't had a fundamentalist leader intent on genocide before.

The Israeli Government was killing Palestinians before Hamas existed in Gaza. If anything Hamas gaining control of Gaza is down to the failures of Israel & the PA to negotiate peace. So now we have a terrorist group who refuse to negotiate versus a terrorist state who refuse to negotiate.

Since Netanyahu invoked Amalek.

And Israel was being invaded several times by its neighbours and subject to terrorist attack after terrorist attack, and told time and time again that they have no right to exist and should be wiped off the map, all within living memory of an attempt to do just that to its peoples in the second world war. Anyway, if I accept this point, what should Israel do now then? Accept heinous attacks like 7/10 and ongoing rocket attacks because they brought it on themselves? Surely they have a duty to their citizens to protect them from this evil?

Oh shut up.

YABVU OP. The marches show that many British protestors do not agree with the policy of the UK government. It is a genocide and Israel is out of control.

What an eloquent contribution. Absolutely invaluable

Should have written English government.

By supporting what the Israeli government is doing, you are. Simples.

Can you show me where I said that on this thread...

See not so simples is it?

You are really showing yourself up here.

I'm embarrassed for you

Well you want the marches denouncing the genocide of the Palestinians and the role of the UK government in supporting Israel, by providing the means to do so, to stop. It is therefore logical to deduce that you support this genocide because you support the Israeli government's actions.
I was brought up to have the courage of my convictions, by a family who suffered greatly under Nazi occupation, and I wish more people did.
There is no grey areas when genocide is concerned. You are either pro or against it.
Simples.
I hope this has answered your question.

Where did I say I wanted the marches to stop?

I think you'll find I was quite measured. I believe in the right to protest but I am very worried about Jewish people being able to feel comfortable and safe in London. Apparently this makes me a genocidal maniac.

Until the genocide stops the protests should continue.

I find it morally bankrupt that anybody says otherwise, and only true fools believe the Israel properganda machine at this point. They have killed thousands of women and children, in effectively an open air prison. They have commited horrific crimes against tens of thousands of people.

If you're personally inconvenienced by the protests then good, that's how protests work. Be grateful you aren't trapped in Gaza.

Oh and it beggars belief that by simply expressing concern for British Jews you can be branded a genocide supporter and abused online, told to shut up. Oh and apparently this is nothing to do with anti semitism

The protests should stop, they do nothing to help the actual cause. If people really want to help they need to get over to Israel/Gaza and get involved on the ground. There is a need for aid and aid workers. People at protests are cowards, wanting to make noise and disruption but not being willing to put their own lives at risk by actually helping.

How many people are actually marching for Hamas though? As far as I can see the majority are marching for Palestinian citizens who are being murdered and starved for something they have no control over.

If our government was to do something to attack another country would you be happy if the other country bombed or starved your kids? Even though it was nothing you could control

Let's not ask for more of our freedom and liberty to be taken away. We need a right to protest.

How many civilians were killed by alllied forces in avenging 3000 9/11 deaths do you think? About 300 000!

Well they're not marching for those poor hostages, are they? They're not urging Hamas to stop attacking Israel. They're not urging Houtis to stop attacking international shipping. They're not urging Hezbollah to stop firing hundreds of rockets every day. If they did those things I might have some time for this "peace march" moniker they so highly and mightily award themselves.

Well, do you condemn what is happening in Gaza?
I condemn it, not because I am antisemite ( this is a very serious accusation and should not being used lightly or to shut down debate), but because it is abhorrent to me.
I condemned and marched against apartheid in SA because it was abhorrent to me. Did this make me anti white?
I protested against the Iranian government. Am I Islamophobe?

I didn't call you anti semetic. You haven't been rude to me. You debate things sensibly albeit I disagree with a lot of it.

And I'm not sure if you actually read the whole thread but like I said my comment was not actually about you