This is the reality of what Israeli is doing.

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https://www.theguardian.com/world/2024/feb/10/im-so-scared-please-come-hind-rajab-six-found-dead-in-gaza-12-days-after-cry-for-help

The horror of individual deaths are not something to award points to in some obscene tally of blame and justification. The depravities at an individual and institutional level are on both sides.

I am horrified by the lack of will for a solution and fear that in the absence of appetite to be hovered by moral and international peace efforts that this will continue to devastate lives and regions while those in charge manipulate the situation for votes and power. Contemptible policies and people caused this and now those with no choice suffer.

Hamas are a recognised terrorist organisation. I was also quoting the poster who said 'if a terrorist group did this in the UK'.

It really wasn’t. This shows you know absolutely nothing about the numerous branches of Hamas, and the separation between them

If you want a starting point, Tortoise did a great podcast in the early days of the conflict about it. Probably worth you having a listen

And that's exactly what will happen. He has the means to achieve it and it's a scenario which suits the west, notwithstanding the terrible collateral damage in achieving it.

If the French government sent 2000 men to rape, murder and capture civilians from our seaside towns whilst launching rockets into our cities then I suspect our government would declare war on France, yes.

And I think the people of the UK would very much expect and demand action, yes.

Seriously. Have a word with yourself.

And I think the people of the UK would very much expect and demand action, yes.”

I would be horrified if our Government reacted to a terrorist attack as Israel has. I imagine the majority would.

Why am I not surprised you have no idea what a tank is?
IDF is using their Merkava 4’s (Baraks) in Gaza just like they did in 2004. These tanks have 360 degree IR night vision/day vision cameras by the way so no chance of mistaking a tiny girl for a Hamas terrorist.

”Each model of the Merkava has two roof-mounted 7.62 mm machine guns for use by the commander and loader and another mounted co-axially with the main gun. A 60 mm mortar is also fitted for firing smoke rounds or suppressing dug-in infantry anti-tank teams.
All Merkava tanks are fitted with a remote-controlled M2 Browning .50 caliber heavy machine gun, aligned with the main gun and controlled from within the turret.”

Exactly.

I think that someone is once again, forgetting the history. It didn't all suddenly begin in October so the whole France thing isn't really comparable

You don’t even know the year Israel became a nation?

Of course Hamas’ leadership knew what was going to happen that day.

@BabaBarrio I don't know why you feel the need to pick and bully when someone doesn't agree with you. It's their prerogative.

So if bullets were removed from the vehicle it could be determined where they came from?

It doesn't explain why a tank would fire at a car that was right next to it??

We do have quite an extensive history with France.

Israel would not be at war with Palestine today if October 7th had not happened.

@stomachameleon
Egypt has stated they won’t open their borders because that would make them complicit in Israel’s ethnic cleansing or genocide. It isn’t due to a fear of Hamas being “widespread”

No, of course they very much didn’t and to think they did simply shows you know nothing about the top level situation let alone the nuances

You would be better off using the time you’re spending on this thread listening to that podcast as a starting point

@BabaBarrio sorry that may be another more palatable reason but they have made it quite clear they are not welcome as have other countries before them. (Jordan? Syria?)

After all of people are suffering if wouldn't need to be a permanent thing. They know what comes with it though.

@tenbob what did they think the reaction would be then?

Israel were occupying Palestine ~ as you will be more than aware by now...

They were controlling every single aspect and were enforcing terror.

The blockades. The arresting people who would then be tortured. The murdering of innocent civilians in the streets. The nonstop assaults. The list goes on and on.

The Israeli government has made their plans crystal clear going back years. They have openly spoken about wanting to "eradicate" the Palestinians.

Your post is the only false claim. The only terrorist rocket to hit a hospital was a misfire as corroborated by all independent intelligence agencies, including the IDF and CIA. All the times a hospital in Gaza or West Bank has been hit by any weapons on purpose has been by the IDF.

Must be horrible to be able to look at what is happening and to come out with the usual lines...

Looking at people and deciding who is worthy in your eyes to live or not.

That is not something I envy or something that someone should be proud of.

Where have they stated that? It makes no sense. Opening the borders and taking in the Palestinians as refugees would be humanitarian, surely? Not complicit?

Egypt has repeatedly stated that the border remains closed because of security concerns.

As long as it was only a 'misfire'
More and more (and less subtle) apologists.