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Kindatired · 07/02/2024 22:15

sunick · 07/02/2024 21:22

There has never been a country called Palestine.
The area now occupied by Gaza and the West Bank was part of the Ottoman empire prior to the British mandate.
The UK does not recognise any country called Palestine.
Israel was set up by the UN and by means of international law.
It is an internationally recognised country.
Why is there a refugee organisation after 75 years?

“There has never been a country called Palestine.”
Thats not it a very good argument.
Lots of places existed in colonial times under different names but it doesn’t mean they didn’t exist. By your logic, they shouldn’t be allowed self determination.
Israel didn’t exist either using your argument-it wasn't even called Israel at the time of its foundation and the boundaries set by the U.N. were a lot lot different

Snowypeak · 07/02/2024 22:57

Gazans and Nazis have nothing in common at all. I don’t know why some people keep trying to equate them.

sunick · 07/02/2024 22:57

Sorry, perhaps I didn't make this clear.
There has never been a country called Palestine. The area referred to by that name was part of the Ottoman empire and was never a country called Palestine. Israel did exist in biblical times and was set up by the UN and international law in 1948. Its boundaries changed because Israel's neighbour launched a series of wars against it which Israel won.
Israel gave a lot of conquered territory back and pulled out of Gaza in 2007.

sunick · 07/02/2024 23:00

Where on this thread is there any concern for dead, raped, kidnapped and mutilated Jewish people except in my posts?

HeidiInTheBigCity · 07/02/2024 23:07

@sunick, honestly, and with all due respect: please get some perspective!

Yes, the partition plan - specifically UNGA resolution 181 - indeed confirms the partition of Mandatory Palestine. This much is true!

But if you are going to ground your argument in "but this is legal, there is an UNGA resolution to that effect" - if you were to be intellectually honest - you'd also have to give the same weight to the following UNGA resolutions [among others] ...

... 303/6 & 2253 - on Jerusalem. ISR decided it didn't matter and unilaterally annexed East Jerusalem (but without giving its people citizenship)

... 2443 (and many thereafter): questioning Israel's human rights record opposite Palestinians. This is, from this point forward, sort of a "running gag" as in "keep on coming up and being voted in favour"

... 3246 - wherein the right to resistance to the occupation, explicitly including "armed resistance" is re-affirmed

... 3414, calling for sanctions and a military embargo until Israel ends the occupation

... [a plethora of resolutions, all calling out any number of things - including such not directly relating to Palestinians, such as nuclear disarmament - most of which Israel has ignored]

... come 2023/4: numerous overwhelming calls for a ceasefire!

Add to that a plethora of UNSC resolutions - including those vehemently opposing any and all of Israel's supposed "annexations" - and those were just the ones NOT vetoed by the US!

... so, if you are going to argue "but there is a UN resolution": please take into account all of the other UN resolutions, too!

Or, don't! I mean, as per the Netanyahu regime, the UN and all its organs are inherently antisemitic or something. Including the Secretary General. Fine, argue that! But then: stop citing the few (out of an estimated gazillion or so) resolutions that actually went in Israel's favour.

ConnieCounter · 07/02/2024 23:08

sunick · 07/02/2024 23:00

Where on this thread is there any concern for dead, raped, kidnapped and mutilated Jewish people except in my posts?

This is a thread about the genocide of Palestinians. There's plenty of threads about what happened back in October in Israel if you want to discuss that specifically.

EasterIssland · 07/02/2024 23:09

Can we please focus on the topic? And ignore those trying to derail and use inflammatory comments please ? Don’t think it gets us anywhere paying attention to some comments

thanks !

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anotherfatyorkie · 08/02/2024 05:00

BackandForthRoundandRound · 08/02/2024 01:39

What has this got to do with the alleged genocide of Palestinians?

I thought we were supposed to keep on topic?!

BackandForthRoundandRound · 08/02/2024 05:50

anotherfatyorkie · 08/02/2024 05:00

What has this got to do with the alleged genocide of Palestinians?

I thought we were supposed to keep on topic?!

Considering the amount of attempts at dehumanising Palestinian people, I thought that a video of a very talented young boy ~ who is making items that not many people would be able to nevermind when everywhere has been destroyed by bombs ~ was worthwhile posting.

I haven't seen any posts from you criticising the deliberate derailment posts? Odd one to choose to pick at, though....

anotherfatyorkie · 08/02/2024 05:55

@BackandForthRoundandRound

It's not my job to police this thread (or any other)

"Odd one to choose to pick at, though...."

Not as odd as it being posted in the first place, when it's nothing to do with the topic.

BackandForthRoundandRound · 08/02/2024 06:29

anotherfatyorkie · 08/02/2024 05:55

@BackandForthRoundandRound

It's not my job to police this thread (or any other)

"Odd one to choose to pick at, though...."

Not as odd as it being posted in the first place, when it's nothing to do with the topic.

"I thought we were meant to keep on topic?!" is what you said in response to it. Hence why I have pointed out that you have not said anything when there have been blatant derailments with posters accusing people of untruths. Which is why it is interesting that you have chosen this to mention.

It is a video of a very talented young boy who happens to be in a so-called safe zone (which are being bombed and more plans to bomb the rest) so yes, I posted it here. Also, a face of the people being so cruelly disregarded by some. And an acknowledgement of what this child can actually do considering what is more than likely going to end up happening to him...

BackandForthRoundandRound · 08/02/2024 06:32

Latest update.... horrible news

Please do all you can to object to the genocide of Palestinians (Thread 2)
EasterIssland · 08/02/2024 06:45

Israeli media shared new pictures of dozens of men including elderlies, claiming that they were kidnapped in Khan Yunis, Gaza.

All men appear blindfolded, handcuffed, and numbered. Several Israeli sources said that they were extrajudicially executed.

https://twitter.com/QudsNen/status/1755441788440002786

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anotherfatyorkie · 08/02/2024 06:46

@BackandForthRoundandRound "I have pointed out that you have not said anything when there have been blatant derailments with posters accusing people of untruths."

That's a matter of opinion.

What one person considers a 'blatant derailment' might be quite pertinent to someone else.

BackandForthRoundandRound · 08/02/2024 06:48

EasterIssland · 08/02/2024 06:45

Israeli media shared new pictures of dozens of men including elderlies, claiming that they were kidnapped in Khan Yunis, Gaza.

All men appear blindfolded, handcuffed, and numbered. Several Israeli sources said that they were extrajudicially executed.

https://twitter.com/QudsNen/status/1755441788440002786

That is absolutely heartbreaking... so many lives. (They seem to be doing the whole suit thing a lot now ~ I wonder if it so people can't recognise any loved ones from their clothing)

Pinkdressinggownbelt · 08/02/2024 06:49

I can never look at Isntreal the same way again

EasterIssland · 08/02/2024 06:52

BackandForthRoundandRound · 08/02/2024 06:48

That is absolutely heartbreaking... so many lives. (They seem to be doing the whole suit thing a lot now ~ I wonder if it so people can't recognise any loved ones from their clothing)

Not sure. But several bodies have appeared blindfolded, handcuffed in many places

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BackandForthRoundandRound · 08/02/2024 06:54

Pinkdressinggownbelt · 08/02/2024 06:49

I can never look at Isntreal the same way again

Same... the sheer volume of people performing these vile actions is beyond any words. I posted a video on here earlier of Israeli forces happily gunning down horses... It's absolute madness. Children being blindfolded and lead into a bombed building (along with men blindfolded) So many other things... the babies being left alone while Israeli forces made the remaining staff (who were still alive) leave at gunpoint and the video of when someone was able to go back in is something I cannot forget. Premature babies all left alone. Evil

anotherfatyorkie · 08/02/2024 06:54

EasterIssland · 08/02/2024 06:45

Israeli media shared new pictures of dozens of men including elderlies, claiming that they were kidnapped in Khan Yunis, Gaza.

All men appear blindfolded, handcuffed, and numbered. Several Israeli sources said that they were extrajudicially executed.

https://twitter.com/QudsNen/status/1755441788440002786

Quds is a Palestinian News Agency.

It is blocked by the Palestinian Authority on the West Bank

https://dbpedia.org/page/Quds_News_Network

Facebook (Meta) has just shut down it's page

https://www.jns.org/meta-suspends-page-of-quds-news-network/

Twitter has done the same

https://www.timesofisrael.com/twitter-suspends-hamas-and-hezbollah-affiliated-handles/

Quds News Network

The Quds News Network (Arabic: شبكة قدس الإخبارية) (QNN, see Quds) is a Palestinian news agency. It is associated with Hamas, and is popular among young Palestinian Internet users for showing videos of the Palestinian conflict and encouraging them to w...

https://dbpedia.org/page/Quds_News_Network

BackandForthRoundandRound · 08/02/2024 06:55

anotherfatyorkie · 08/02/2024 06:54

Quds is a Palestinian News Agency.

It is blocked by the Palestinian Authority on the West Bank

https://dbpedia.org/page/Quds_News_Network

Facebook (Meta) has just shut down it's page

https://www.jns.org/meta-suspends-page-of-quds-news-network/

Twitter has done the same

https://www.timesofisrael.com/twitter-suspends-hamas-and-hezbollah-affiliated-handles/

They have also closed the pages of people reporting directly from Palestine. It is quite common for that to happen

anotherfatyorkie · 08/02/2024 06:59

@BackandForthRoundandRound who is the "they" you refer to?

These news outlets have been closed by several organisations. Which one to you mean.

EasterIssland · 08/02/2024 06:59

anotherfatyorkie · 08/02/2024 06:54

Quds is a Palestinian News Agency.

It is blocked by the Palestinian Authority on the West Bank

https://dbpedia.org/page/Quds_News_Network

Facebook (Meta) has just shut down it's page

https://www.jns.org/meta-suspends-page-of-quds-news-network/

Twitter has done the same

https://www.timesofisrael.com/twitter-suspends-hamas-and-hezbollah-affiliated-handles/

Thanks for the information. Do you have anything to say about the rest or shall we ignore that ?

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anotherfatyorkie · 08/02/2024 07:00

No need to be sarcastic.

What "rest" do you mean ?

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