To find the silence about UNRWA being Hamas hypocritical

[Muthaofcats]

I entirely understand the discomfort seeing images coming out of Gaza; but what I don’t get is those who choose to post about it on social media or campaign expressing their horror but being totally SILENT after October 7th (before Israeli had even responded), after evidence of the sexual violence suffered by those murdered in Israel and now, after finding out that UNWRA who they have all been sending donations to, are actually Hamas who perpetrated the atrocities.

Where is the outrage from these people at UNRWA?

Why are none of these vocal people not screaming from the roof tops at how horrendous this is !?! If it was true you care about humanity, why aren’t you horrified to learn you’ve all been donating to an organisation so closely linked to the rape and murder of innocent civilians ? (And this isn’t the first time unrwa has been linked to Hamas; their HQ is a Hamas building and they’ve famously been linked to training terrorists in their schools / got into hot water for removing the hollocaust from their curriculum)

if you are one of those white privileged women who posts on social media about a cease fire (I’m talking to those of you who have never been to the ME, or studied ME history and never taken up the cause of any of the other global conflicts); why is your outrage so one sided and blinkered ? Why don’t you acknowledge the horrors of the Israeli/ Jewish people too ? If you’re really the virtuous person you purport to be by taking up this cause, why don’t you care ? Or do you believe what Hamas did and are doing and promising to keep doing (murder all Jews) is justified ?

Genuinely find it bewildering.

I thought this thread was about urnwa , I must have misread the title

Slovenia has doubled its UNRWA funding and says it will continue to support the United Nations humanitarian work in Gaza.

Really glad to read that. The thought of them running out completely was such a horrendous thought.

Could you point out where in the thread or any others that BackandForthRoundandRound didn't condemn Hamas or didn't consider the suffering of all people in the region?* *You seem to be guilty of what you are accusing others of doing and not acknowledging the suffering of all people. At no point were people in this thread attacking Jewish people if you think otherwise could you point it out. I don't understand why you would consider it an attack on Jewish people if someone expresses concern for Palestinians. You will need to explain that one to me.

That's great news. I also read an article quoting the Norwegian prime minister who has been in discussion with some countries that have withdrawn aid saying he is confident that many will begin to reinstate it.

Another country refusing to cut funding

Also for those that didn’t see the link I posted in the page before

“We were told that there were 12 UNRWA employees - out of 30,000 - involved in 7th October.

Now it's down to 6, and Sky News report the Israeli intelligence documents make several claims without proof, and many claims don't directly implicate UNRWA anyway”

First of all, thank you @Dulra

I would ask if you could point out where there has been anyone has made any attacks on Jewish people at all? I have not seen any. What I have seen is people being accused of all sorts simply for being concerned about Palestine and for sharing facts regarding this. I certainly have not seen any attacks, or any hatred, towards Jewish people. That would not be acceptable.

I have seen posters explain themselves, time and time again, that they are not claiming/meaning the entire population when talking about the atrocities taking place.

I have seen some pretty nasty posts (regarding Muslims, accusing posters of supporting terrorism, that sort of thing) but nothing towards Jewish people.

Some people seem to view any concern/support/information sharing/so on about Palestine as being hatred. It is clearly not yet it is something that is expressed numerous times. Why is that? I'm not meaning that to sound nasty at all, I'm genuinely curious as to why it feels that way for you.

Life is precious. For everyone. I don't think many people would be speaking out about the current atrocities if they had a disregard for human life or any hatred towards another person. Hatred is what has caused the entire history here. None of this is meant to read/sound nasty at all. I'm just, once again, rather puzzled as to why this has been claimed.

The thread is about the hypocrisy of it being revealed that unrwa is infiltrated by Hamas who took part in a major atrocity and people who are otherwise vocal about the conflict remaining ominously silent about how outrageous this is, or worse defending it !?

I would say it’s directly relevant to query why such people are only concerned about one side of this conflict and abjectly refuse to acknowledge the situation for Jewish people both in Israel and globally. interesting you can’t see the link.

being revealed that unrwa is infiltrated by Hamas *

by Israel. Yet Israel is failing to proof all their claims according to sky news. Maybe people is fed up of seeing people dying because of Israel’s governments actions

Please can I make friends with your friends? They sound fantastic

EasterIssland,

Now it's down to 6, and Sky News report the Israeli intelligence documents make several claims without proof, and many claims don't directly implicate UNRWA anyway”

we’ve seen this from the start , officials or government spokespersons would say something and then a few days later a report by their intelligence retract these statements . But not before it circulates and people pick it up. It feeds anger and hate on both sides.

I'm really glad to see other countries refusing to cut funding. I'm on another forum and when Ireland announced in the beginning of this that they would be continuing with their aid the vitriol and 'what would you expect from Ireland except for them to be funding terrorists' was unreal. It's really shameful that so many countries just jumped the gun and went along with Israel when Israels aims to starve Gaza have been clearly stated. Of course they are trying to find ways to stop aid reaching Gaza, they have been trying since the beginning to stop aid from reaching Gaza, we expect nothing less from Israel at this stage but for other countries to go along with Israels plan is just mindblowing.

Statement from Lemkin Institute for Genocide Prevention about the accusations against urnwa and the cut of funding https://www.lemkininstitute.com/_files/ugd/391abe_7c0085dab25e41be85e80fb47bb98ade.pdf

If UNWRA has been infiltrated by Hamas and not just a few bad eggs which is currently all the we have proof for, I don't think any poster is or would defend it. The majority of posters if you read back carefully are concerned with how aid will be provided and get through to people that are currently starving, in the absence of UNWRA. I fail to see where the hypocrisy is in that?

people who are otherwise vocal about the conflict remaining ominously silent about how outrageous this is, or worse defending it !? Can you show me the posts where people are defending it?

I would say it’s directly relevant to query why such people are only concerned about one side of this conflict and abjectly refuse to acknowledge the situation for Jewish people both in Israel and globally. interesting you can’t see the link.
People are not only concerned about one side of the conflict people in this thread (not sure who you mean when you say "such people") are concerned about people dying of starvation and how they will get humanitarian aid, it is not about sides it is about ensuring the most vulnerable are helped. I asked you earlier to demonstrate where posters on this thread have refused to acknowledge the situation for Jewish people? You have not done so yet keep repeating it. Maybe you are not able to comprehend that some people can be concerned about both because I can certainly see your concern for only one side, so again you are doing exactly what you are accusing others of doing.

@Muthaofcats . Quick question for you, were you against medicines being given to the hostages?

"defending it" nobody has... also what post has been "attacking Jewish people"?

People have been questioning the actual "intelligence" due to the previous amount of false statements..... There is a huge difference between the two things.

@brokenbutterflymagnum I never saw that thread. Good to hear it has been deleted

Which still has not happened

Yesterday Belgium put out a statement to say they will continue with their funding for UNWRA and support for Gazans.
Today they have recalled their Israeli ambassador in anger after Israel bombed the Belgian Centre in Gaza. Any coincidence that the building was struck after the statement?

The destruction of civilian infrastructure is absolutely unacceptable and does not comply with international law,” it adds.
Brussels says the offices of Enabel, the Belgian development agency, had been destroyed in northern Gaza.

https://www.timesofisrael.com/liveblog_entry/belgium-summons-israeli-envoy-over-completely-unacceptable-destruction-of-gaza-development-agency/

It's not easy for countries to put their heads above the parapet on this. When Ireland first showed support for Palestinians the Israeli ambassador wrote a post on x about how Ireland funds Hamas tunnels. Then when it came time for people to be evacuated from Gaza Israel were extremely slow to approve Irish citizens evacuating. Given the anger Israel show when countries don't follow along with their narrative I would be very surprised if this was just a coincidence. Of course Israel will deny it though and most countries will nod along with them.

Never heard of them before. Quick google shows statements they've put out blaming Israel for the 7th October attack. Terrorist apologists condemning others for stopping funding terrorists.

What do you know?

Obviously much more than you do. The IRC has not done anything