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Conflict in the Middle East

To find the silence about UNRWA being Hamas hypocritical

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Muthaofcats · 28/01/2024 07:35

I entirely understand the discomfort seeing images coming out of Gaza; but what I don’t get is those who choose to post about it on social media or campaign expressing their horror but being totally SILENT after October 7th (before Israeli had even responded), after evidence of the sexual violence suffered by those murdered in Israel and now, after finding out that UNWRA who they have all been sending donations to, are actually Hamas who perpetrated the atrocities.

Where is the outrage from these people at UNRWA?

Why are none of these vocal people not screaming from the roof tops at how horrendous this is !?! If it was true you care about humanity, why aren’t you horrified to learn you’ve all been donating to an organisation so closely linked to the rape and murder of innocent civilians ? (And this isn’t the first time unrwa has been linked to Hamas; their HQ is a Hamas building and they’ve famously been linked to training terrorists in their schools / got into hot water for removing the hollocaust from their curriculum)

if you are one of those white privileged women who posts on social media about a cease fire (I’m talking to those of you who have never been to the ME, or studied ME history and never taken up the cause of any of the other global conflicts); why is your outrage so one sided and blinkered ? Why don’t you acknowledge the horrors of the Israeli/ Jewish people too ? If you’re really the virtuous person you purport to be by taking up this cause, why don’t you care ? Or do you believe what Hamas did and are doing and promising to keep doing (murder all Jews) is justified ?

Genuinely find it bewildering.

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quantumbutterfly · 02/02/2024 14:49

cindyhove · 02/02/2024 14:16

Obviously much more than you do. The IRC has not done anything

It was actually a question. Is it reported that medicine has not been given to hostages that need it?

BackandForthRoundandRound · 02/02/2024 16:12

MrTiddlesTheCat · 02/02/2024 13:55

Never heard of them before. Quick google shows statements they've put out blaming Israel for the 7th October attack. Terrorist apologists condemning others for stopping funding terrorists.

Is this a serious post??

cindyhove · 02/02/2024 21:02

quantumbutterfly · 02/02/2024 14:49

It was actually a question. Is it reported that medicine has not been given to hostages that need it?

No it has not been given, nor have the IRC seen the hostages.

stomachameleon · 02/02/2024 21:32

I wasn't aware there was definitive proof the hostages hadn't received the medication although I thought it was unlikely.

Babyboomtastic · 02/02/2024 21:39

The point about the medication is that most of the pro-Israel people on here were still keen for the medication to go in because although there was a risk it might just end up with Hamas or not being given, ensuring that the innocent hostages got necessary medication was a necessary risk.

However most Palestinians are equally innocent, and yet taking that same risk for them is deemed unacceptable enough to demand funding for aid is cut.

I hope that the hostages get their medicine. Equally an elderly diabetic Palestinian deserves insulin a much as a hostage.

stomachameleon · 02/02/2024 22:09

Doesn't matter what the 'pro Israeli' posters say on here. It is what was agreed. And it is apparent Hamas have not stuck to the agreement.

Parkingt111 · 02/02/2024 22:32

@EasterIssland thanks for sharing
And I hope more officials publicly speak out too

Limeandsodaontherocks · 02/02/2024 22:34

Haven’t read the whole thread so apologies if I’m repeating stuff others have said .
Yes the silence from some people about Hamas members posing as UNRWA is concerning but no longer surprising.
I have good friends - who I have known for over 30 years - who believe themselves to be moral and good people. And yet whenever I ask why Hamas can’t release the hostages in order to end the suffering of their own people they act as if the question is unreasonable.
If I ask my friends about UNRWA they will start talking about the atrocities caused by the IDF . It’s really hard to have a discussion that’s not polarising.
Serms a lot of people have been groomed by social media over the last few months.
Edited to say - I have no connection with Middle East and am not Jewish or Palestinian. But I definitely feel the pressure to “ take the knee” for Palestinians from social media.

ProfessorPipsqueak · 02/02/2024 22:54

And yet whenever I ask why Hamas can’t release the hostages in order to end the suffering of their own people they act as if the question is unreasonable.
If I ask my friends about UNRWA they will start talking about the atrocities caused by the IDF . It’s really hard to have a discussion that’s not polarising.

@Limeandsodaontherocks I will answer you questions. Hamas have offered to release the hostages in return for permanent ceasefire ages ago. Israel said no.

The allegations against a very small number of UNWRA workers are based on Israeli 'intelligence'. Until and independent review is carried we don't know what is happening, putting the lives of millions of people at risk because of unproven allegations against less than 1% of an organisation is absurd. Even if those less than 1% turn out to be bad apples cutting funding from an entire organisation is absurd.

Polka83 · 02/02/2024 23:22

UMWRA nominated for Nobel Peace prize by Norwegian MP for the work they have done supporting Palestinians over many decades. You cannot blame all of UNWRA for actions of a fraction.

https://www.timesofisrael.com/unrwa-nominated-for-nobel-peace-prize-amid-allegations-workers-took-part-in-oct-7/amp/

quantumbutterfly · 02/02/2024 23:50

Limeandsodaontherocks · 02/02/2024 22:34

Haven’t read the whole thread so apologies if I’m repeating stuff others have said .
Yes the silence from some people about Hamas members posing as UNRWA is concerning but no longer surprising.
I have good friends - who I have known for over 30 years - who believe themselves to be moral and good people. And yet whenever I ask why Hamas can’t release the hostages in order to end the suffering of their own people they act as if the question is unreasonable.
If I ask my friends about UNRWA they will start talking about the atrocities caused by the IDF . It’s really hard to have a discussion that’s not polarising.
Serms a lot of people have been groomed by social media over the last few months.
Edited to say - I have no connection with Middle East and am not Jewish or Palestinian. But I definitely feel the pressure to “ take the knee” for Palestinians from social media.

Edited

yep

EasterIssland · 03/02/2024 06:22

Limeandsodaontherocks · 02/02/2024 22:34

Haven’t read the whole thread so apologies if I’m repeating stuff others have said .
Yes the silence from some people about Hamas members posing as UNRWA is concerning but no longer surprising.
I have good friends - who I have known for over 30 years - who believe themselves to be moral and good people. And yet whenever I ask why Hamas can’t release the hostages in order to end the suffering of their own people they act as if the question is unreasonable.
If I ask my friends about UNRWA they will start talking about the atrocities caused by the IDF . It’s really hard to have a discussion that’s not polarising.
Serms a lot of people have been groomed by social media over the last few months.
Edited to say - I have no connection with Middle East and am not Jewish or Palestinian. But I definitely feel the pressure to “ take the knee” for Palestinians from social media.

Edited

Serms a lot of people have been groomed by social media over the last few months.

i find this comment a bit of an insult to those That don’t agree with you. People can have their own opinion, they don’t have to be groomed… you’re treating them as a puppet that can tell them what they say / think is because someone else have told them to. Please respect other people’s opinion

as you ask questions to others to answer which @ProfessorPipsqueak has already replied can I ask you a few

  1. Why can’t Israel release those people in prison that they have not had a court or a fair court
  1. Why can’t idf kill /arrest Hamas in targeted attacks.
  2. Why can’t Israel show real proof about Hamas rather than fake ones. Every single video they’ve released with proof about Hamas was here had fake things hence why many of us don’t believe this urnwa accusations and even if they were real we don’t believe that a country should get the punishment because a few people were linked to a terrorist attack.
  3. Why is it ok to have 25000 death and many other lost atm
BackandForthRoundandRound · 03/02/2024 09:09

Limeandsodaontherocks · 02/02/2024 22:34

Haven’t read the whole thread so apologies if I’m repeating stuff others have said .
Yes the silence from some people about Hamas members posing as UNRWA is concerning but no longer surprising.
I have good friends - who I have known for over 30 years - who believe themselves to be moral and good people. And yet whenever I ask why Hamas can’t release the hostages in order to end the suffering of their own people they act as if the question is unreasonable.
If I ask my friends about UNRWA they will start talking about the atrocities caused by the IDF . It’s really hard to have a discussion that’s not polarising.
Serms a lot of people have been groomed by social media over the last few months.
Edited to say - I have no connection with Middle East and am not Jewish or Palestinian. But I definitely feel the pressure to “ take the knee” for Palestinians from social media.

Edited

Hamas have offered several times to release the hostages and Israel refused that.

As for the "grooming" remarks, you are aware of what that means??

BackandForthRoundandRound · 03/02/2024 09:11

EasterIssland · 03/02/2024 06:22

Serms a lot of people have been groomed by social media over the last few months.

i find this comment a bit of an insult to those That don’t agree with you. People can have their own opinion, they don’t have to be groomed… you’re treating them as a puppet that can tell them what they say / think is because someone else have told them to. Please respect other people’s opinion

as you ask questions to others to answer which @ProfessorPipsqueak has already replied can I ask you a few

  1. Why can’t Israel release those people in prison that they have not had a court or a fair court
  1. Why can’t idf kill /arrest Hamas in targeted attacks.
  2. Why can’t Israel show real proof about Hamas rather than fake ones. Every single video they’ve released with proof about Hamas was here had fake things hence why many of us don’t believe this urnwa accusations and even if they were real we don’t believe that a country should get the punishment because a few people were linked to a terrorist attack.
  3. Why is it ok to have 25000 death and many other lost atm
Edited

Good questions but ones I don't think will be answered by anyone. As it is all too easy to revert to the "but Hummus" speels

AliceA2021 · 03/02/2024 09:14

Muthaofcats · 02/02/2024 05:42

It’s sickening to think of what Gaza could be right now had the billions of aid they have have been donated over the years actually been used to set up infrastructure, build schools, hospitals etc. apparently it’s so much money it could be the equivalent of Singapore right now.

Every penny has been siphoned off to fund war. But when jihad is the ultimate privilege to Islamist extremists I guess this is more important than knowing their children will get fed.

Yep.

Sickening and extremely sad that tp some extremists Jihad is more important than their children

AliceA2021 · 03/02/2024 09:17

'A few people were linked to terrorist attacks'

That's the understatement of the century. A coordinated attack from air, sea and land that took 2 years to plan!

BackandForthRoundandRound · 03/02/2024 09:20

AliceA2021 · 03/02/2024 09:14

Yep.

Sickening and extremely sad that tp some extremists Jihad is more important than their children

Interesting post. You are claiming that it is "sickening and extremely sad" in reference to children.

Yet the Israeli army has murdered thousands of children. The list of known children actually reads for seven minutes. More are still stuck under the rumble of their houses bombed by Israel.

BackandForthRoundandRound · 03/02/2024 09:21

AliceA2021 · 03/02/2024 09:17

'A few people were linked to terrorist attacks'

That's the understatement of the century. A coordinated attack from air, sea and land that took 2 years to plan!

Are you referring to the documents that Israel shared regarding this? They were interesting indeed

AliceA2021 · 03/02/2024 09:24

" Why can’t idf kill /arrest Hamas in targeted attacks."

Ah, guess the signs must have fallen off saying 'I'm Hamas' so they have to go for the buildings they fire missiles from. Tunnels under ground are kinda difficult to target. Did you not see the large number of civilian men who took part in the 7/10 attacks (as per their own personal recordings) do they stand out in crowds. So urban warfare is difficult and Israel are losing lots of their soldiers. The Russian's had similar problems with Tge Taleban. Terrorists in hiding are difficult to fight

AliceA2021 · 03/02/2024 09:26

BackandForthRoundandRound · 03/02/2024 09:21

Are you referring to the documents that Israel shared regarding this? They were interesting indeed

No. To the filmed footage from hamas cam and from mobile phones.

Why do some keep excusing and minimising terrorist actions? What benefit do you get from that?

EasterIssland · 03/02/2024 09:31

AliceA2021 · 03/02/2024 09:26

No. To the filmed footage from hamas cam and from mobile phones.

Why do some keep excusing and minimising terrorist actions? What benefit do you get from that?

Where they urnwa members this people ? I think that’s what the other poster is referring to

what benefit does Israel get from bombing Gaza and getting rid of urnwa?

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