Number of Palestinians killed in Israeli attacks on Gaza over 10,000 😡

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Number of Palestinians killed in Israeli attacks on Gaza tops 10,000 https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2023/11/6/number-of-palestinians-killed-in-israeli-attacks-on-gaza-tops-10000

@HeidiInTheBigCity ,

No, not incompetent.

You cannot attack an enemy in an urban area without killing civilians.

There is a naivety among some about what war is. Have a look at the civilian casualty count in any real war and 10,000 is not a massive number, especially given the cowardly way Hamas choose to fight.

Any innocent person dying is a tragedy, but wars are tragic.

@Newbutoldfather
*Hamas is actually stopping civilians leaving
*in order to have them killed
*hoping that the resulting propaganda will cause pressure to be put on Israel.

Is there evidence for these three claims?

It’s an absolutely enormous number in such a short space of time. Can you find me a war in which 10,000 civilians have been killed in under a month?

Are you aware that Hamas continues to fire thousands of rockets at Israel too and if it were not for their defence system, there would be countless deaths?

Just tonight on Sky News a Hamas spokesman said, 'we will not stop until we have our own state with Jerusalem as it's capital'. So in other words, 'we're not stopping till all the Israelis are dead or gone'.

I don't know what you expect Israel to do in those circumstances? Invite Hamas round for tea?

Treblinka, Sobibor, Chelmno, Babi Yar, Hiroshima, Nagasaki, Dresden, Hamburg.

We killed more French civilians in the run-up to D-Day and we were trying to help them. In existential wars really difficult decisions have to be made and you have to live with the weight of them. Hamas, not Israel, wanted this.

The cowardly way to fight is to mass murder civilians and then cry "they made us do this, we are the real victims!". I'm talking about dropping bombs on residential areas, shooting children from armed tanks, shooting men dead working on their farms because you want their land, shooting journalists, bombing hospitals, uprooting trees, dropping white phosphorus on civilian populations where 50% are children.

"Fighting" ?? You mean bombing hospitals, schools and refugee camps?

Israel directed people to move and then killed them on the way there.

The IDF are despicable murderers, and you are just as bad to support it. Shame on you.

@RafaistheKingofClay ,

Hiroshima: 78,000 in less than one second.

Iraq war: depending on sources 150,000-600,000 civilian deaths in about 3 years, so that order or magnitude EVERY month for 3 whole years.

I am sure that there are many others….

Anyone who agrees with this genocide needs to actually see the pictures coming out of Gaza and look at themselves in the mirror and say ‘ I agree with this’ hopefully they might then realise just how sick they are.

In that ceasefire that stopped on the 7-10 you’re not taking into account what the settlers are doing. Neither what idf has been doing with pouring cement into water springs this summer. Why is it ok everything Israel has been doing in the last years ? There is more than one way of killing people and Israel has not respected the ceasefire for a long time

@Newbutoldfather oh and the reason they haven't completely obliterated Gaza YET is because they don't want the west to turn on them. Netanyahu was already under investigation for corruption and there were calls for him to be removed and charged. He is not a man who is trustworthy at all.

@lotus786 ,

I have reported your last post due to your obvious antisemitism. The concept that Jews own and control the media is a well known anti semitic trope. You are showing your true colours.

Exactly. It is appalling. The cameraman yesterday lost ALL his children😢

For anyone who is interested this journalist is independent and only interested in showing the truth of what is actually going on in Gaza. He is not affiliated with any political party, Hamas or media outlets.

instagram.com/motaz_azaiza?igshid=NzZlODBkYWE4Ng==

I don't think Israel is sparing civilians at all. They are bombing hospitals FGS.

The attacks of October 7th were absolutely awful, outrageous acts. However that doesn't justify Israel's continuous, indiscriminate bombing. It feels disturbingly like ethic cleansing.

Hamas leaders are amongst the richest Muslims in the world, second to ISIS - in the billions. Each leader is worth a couple billion. Each. The aid given to Gaza goes to them - not to new hospitals, not to new schools, not to regeneration. A tale as old as time.

They are frequently photographed on private jets, branded gear, laughing, smiling....and they have said Gazian blood spilled "is a necessity" - their election promise was to "destroy Israel", which they have fulfiled, but they do. Not. Care. About. Gazanites.

Haha but it's okay for you to condone the killing of children. I am anti Israeli government. I am not anti Jewish in any shape or form.

@lotus786 ,

Are you claiming that Israelis own and control the media then?!

I don’t think so.

I don't even agree that it is genocide. In the examples I gave above, Treblinka, Babi Yar, etc. were genocide. Srebrenica was genocide. Armenia was genocide. Rwanda was genocide. Bombing Hiroshima and Hamburg targeted civilians but was not genocide. Bombing northern France was not genocide. Killing lots of civilians is not necessarily genocide. The Palestinian population, even inside Israel itself, has grown massively over the last few decades. It's funny that those people who think Jewish people run everything and are all-powerful oppressors also think that Jewish people are genocidal but just really, really incompetent at it.

I really want this situation to end, but it is on Hamas to end it. ISIS used to strap suicide vests on children and send them to their deaths. Hamas has essentially strapped a giant suicide vest over Gaza.

I wish people would stop using words like genocide and ethnic cleansing to describe Israel’s attack on Hamas.

When Israel have finished this campaign, 98% of Palestinians (around) will still be alive and, in a few years, be far better governed than under Hamas.

On the other side, Hamas have clearly stated their intention of wiping out every Israeli. I don’t understand why people cannot understand that Israel have every right to take Hamas out completely after the atrocity they committed.

Even the other Arab nations and Hezbollah are not doing much beyond gestures, as they know Hamas went too far.

It isn't just MNers calling it genocide, it's being used increasingly more. I can't say I disagree, it's gone far beyond an act of defence.

I wish people would stop using words like genocide and ethnic cleansing to describe Israel’s attack on Hamas.

I wished Israel would stop killing innocents and that settlers would return the land to Palestinians.

When Israel have finished this campaign, 98% of Palestinians (around) will still be alive and, in a few years, be far better governed than under Hamas.

we shall see… I really doubt there will be a happy future for Palestinians and I can also see that a new hamas will be around. Also who is going to be this new government that will protect the Palestinians from Israel ?

What a ridiculous statement. It's akin to saying well.only 1400 people died in the 7th October attacks - most Israelis are still alive what is all the fuss about ...