To be horrified re the 2000+ children killed in Gaza.

[SoShallINever]

The news tonight was unbearable.
I am sickened that the West is not calling for a ceasefire or some restraint.
I found out today that Gaza is almost exactly the same size as the small Hebridean island of Jura. But whereas Jura has a few hundred residents, Gaza has 2.4 million packed in. You couldn't throw a stone into Gaza without it hitting someone, never mind a missile.
The children of Gaza are not terrorists and I wish Israel would stop.

You say there are many other options available to Israel, but then forgot to give them?

Gaza was occupied by Egypt 1949-67.
They share a very large border.
Israel occupied it 1967-2005.
Hamas now have controlled it from 2005.
I think sometimes people don't understand the basics.
Feelings are running high, the death toll of innocents is rising, it's a humanitarian crisis. It seems to get worse every day.
However, repeating slogans or pieces of misinformation doesn't help.

The horrific actions by Hamas on October 7th was not just on children. All those who suffered the extreme violence should be spoken about.

It was the women’s peace movement in Northern Ireland that played a key role in bringing about the Good Friday Agreement. Would that some of those brave, wise women were able to be involved in peace negotiations now

@Mummy2Sienna - there are a lot of women working for this - look up the organisation
"Women Wage Peace"
Inspirational.

And the Isralian hostage yesterday who gave an interview when released. Haven't hamas still got this lady's husband? I would be very sceptical of anything said in this interview. I cant believe that these savages treated her well after what they've done to others since 7th October. Probably more likely they are using her as their mouthpiece with a threat of harm to her husband hanging over her.

Another thread that's descended into nonsense. 2 pages of people being outraged that other people aren't sufficiently outraged about the Hamas attack on Israelis in order to stop the conversation on the point of the thread, which is the ongoing slaughter of children in Gaza.

I think we can take it at this stage that everyone agrees that the murders by Hamas were horrendous and shocking. Not everyone agrees that the murder of thousands of Gazans in retaliation is horrendous and shocking and therein lies a big problem.

Wrong . 1993, the Oslo Accords gave Gaza to the Palestinians.

Your basics are not really solid.

It’s not nonsense. People’s hurt is not nonsense.

Posts that are that off should be questioned.

100% agree with this.

Coughingdodger I would welcome an unreserved apology for your anti-Semitic post. It's not too late to educate yourself.

No, I'm not wrong. I just didn't add Oslo I and Oslo II.
My point is that some people seem to think that it's a very simple equation, with an easy solution. It isn't.

They also work with Women of the Sun, who are a Palestinian organisation.

https://theconversation.com/how-women-in-israel-and-palestine-are-pushing-for-peace-together-215783

Inspirational

I agree.

I think the blockade since 2007 is probably relevant here. The Israeli side seems to pretend it isn't happening.

Could you look this little boy in the eye and tell him that he deserved to lose his whole family to a genocidal Israeli government and to search amongst the dead bodies for his mum to kiss her good bye?
https://www.instagram.com/reel/Cyzza50Ah9y/?igshid=MzRlODBiNWFlZA==

If there was a school shooters going from school to school, would you say that the police should just blow up the whole school, including the teachers, other pupils and any parents that were on-site? Then claim the school shooters were using the others as “human shields” and call the dead children “collateral damage”?

What about after the IRA bombings? Should the British have just flattened the whole of Belfast to kill any suspected IRA members? Should they have never negotiated with the IRA and instead have just killed Irish children in their thousands?

The mental backflips and utter bloodthirsty callous voices of the pro-Israeli side never fail to shock me, and I doubt I’m the only one.

It's very complicated.
If there was an easy solution, it could be resolved this afternoon.
Sadly, there isn't.

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This all day.

Never said it. Not once.

In fact I’ve said several times that the murder of all innocent people is horrific.

What do you think about the murder of Gazan children by the IDF?

No one has to read posts minimising what happened on October 7th. If someone posts it, it will be countered.

Emojis and cheerleading. Just think about what people are reading.

everyone agrees that the murders by Hamas were horrendous and shocking.

sadly, shockingly, it's simply not true.
Which might explains the current mess that is developing.

Terrorists are people, and supporters of terrorism are people too. How do posters side with terrorists is beyond my understanding, but that's how we'll end up with WW3.

Ok I apologise yet again for my poorly worded post about a woman hitting a man and the man retaliating. A woman hitting a man is in no way comparable to Hamas killing innocent Israeli people including children. I realised that as soon as I wrote it and withdrew the analogy. Minimising the horrific events of October 7th was not my intention. The acts of murder on Oct 7th were barbaric and horrific.

The analogy of the man hitting the woman and her children in response is also entirely and inappropriately insufficient to describe Israel’s response in Gaza.

Hamas’s actions on October 7 th were horrific.

What is your opinion of Israel’s ongoing actions today?

This is ridiculous.