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Just MC and ready to try again? Pack your leathers, black nail polish, air guitar and jump in the mosh pit for some serious metalling. All welcome! (Part 17)

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MarathonMama · 24/07/2011 14:49

Hello! Just miscarried and ready to start again, come and join us...

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Summerbird73 · 29/07/2011 09:03

shimmery so sorry about your uncle, no matter how close you were it is still hard when a close relative dies. sending you the 'unmumsnetty' hugs. where in the north are you and baby from? i am originally from the North East but living in South Manchester now. i know what you mean about being homesick, i would never move back to Newcastle (even though i love the place) but when my grandad died in May i just wanted to be there. Sad

Summerbird73 · 29/07/2011 09:07

morning all

i had a right rockin time at the quiz last night, we raised £400 for North West Ambulance Service, we are hopefully going to do another one soon.

still no AF..... Hmm i know what you are all going to say (what i would say to you all!!!) but i am too shit scared to test. the last two months i have been convinced then have tested and been Sad at the BFN.

sooo i am CD26 and 16DPO. The brown spotting stopped a couple of days ago, so i am going to test tomorrow morning if no AF by then. (secretly thinking about nipping out at lunchtime to boots for a cheapie!!)

pad that padded cell up good and proper and let me iiiinnnnnnn!

Summerbird73 · 29/07/2011 09:09

also was just thinking yesterday - wouldnt it be fab if there was a digital pregnancy test that said either BFP Smile or BFN Sad

shall we get MNHQ on the case?!

eve34 · 29/07/2011 09:24

Morning all Just a quick on as I am getting ready for camp.

Blue - how was your night out last night? Hope it was a good one and you are fit to work this morning?

Summer - you do know that I will have to wait all weekend til Monday til I find out.... fingers crossed for you.

Baby - I knew both times I was pg around when my period was due. Sore boobs and cramping/implantation pains. Although last time I had just come off the mini pill so no periods for 2 years so wasn't sure if it was pg or coming off the pill and not having a period for so long.

Shimmery - really sorry to hear about your uncle. It is always sad when a loved one dies. Do you think you will get back for the funeral? I always want to go back home(Warwick now in the south) but everyone has moved away even my mum so there is know one there anymore. But it is still home after 20 years of moving away.

Thank you to those who said nice things about my job, I am very lucky to do something I enjoy and I hope I am good at. I try my best and hopefully make a difference to people at a difficult time in life. Besides the hours are good and I work from home :-)

Hope you all have a great weekend - lots of BFP when I come back please :-)

BlueCrane · 29/07/2011 11:18

Ooh summer bacon butty is exactly what I need after my late night out last night...my melon and blueberry snack pot isn't really cutting it at the moment!! Only had one glass of wine but ended up getting home rather later than planned so feeling v sleepy this morning! Good to catch up with the lads though!

Any news from manda or missg ...testing testing 123...

IQ, Marathon how's that padded room? Hope you're both nice and comfy in there and feeling a bit more chilled!

eve hope you have a fantastic weekend!! And super well done on the weight loss - that's very impressive!!

whatso well done with the dress fitting...my DH always looks a bit Shock when I pull out the control pants for such occassions...thankfully I had the foresight to get changed on my wedding day before he saw my means of looking slim underneath my wedding dress (hold everything in flesh coloured lace/granny looking no. from M&S Blush ) how frustrating about AF though! Mine seems to be limping on with some spotting but otherwise over.

shimmery Sad to hear about your uncle...

Just to answer Q about 'feeling' pregnant...the month I conceived I was convinced I wasn't, whereas the months before that when we were TTC I was convinced I was each time and got a bfn...my lesson was that the month I chilled out about it was the month it happened (though we had got quite a lot more SWI in that cycle and I'd realised I wasn't ov'ing until CD25 so made sure we kept it up throughout the cycle!)

Hmm Confused MC seems to have had some weird effects on my cycle/body...no suprise there I hear everyone cry...but normally I get spots and bloating before or during AF but this time AF has pretty much finished and now my face is just a disaster zone and I feel like a whale... grrr...wondering how long this'll last!

Right...back to try and look as though I'm doing some work and not slowly drifting off to sleep or mindlessly surfing on the net or on MN! Smile

PieMistress · 29/07/2011 11:21

Hi Peeps,

Just a quickie - am out this month :( AF arrived today (12dpo) after spotting since 8dpo. Am so gutted. Have made an appt with the GP for next week as am very concerned about the 4 days of spotting before AF. I am also emotionally drained right now and really really struggling with it all. I sobbed last night when the test said BFN and the bleeding got heavier - it's such a horrible reminder of the whole m/c experience and I feel at such a loss with myself and hate that my body is letting me down firstly with the m/c and now by not even having a proper cycle

Sorry for me,me post. Hope you are all well !!! It's Friday :) xx

BlueCrane · 29/07/2011 12:21

Oh pie I'm so sorry...this whole process is such a rollercoaster and really tough and it's so frustrating how everyone's body reacts so differently in terms of recovery and the mess the whole thing makes with our emotions, hormones etc! Really hope AF not too heavy and you don't have bad cramps...I've heard of others having spotting before AF after an MC so wondering if it might be a common occurence...though don't know the reason for it. And AF is a very unpleasant reminder of MC...maybe if you can try to think of AF as being a sign that your body has done it's job this cycle in terms of lining and then shedding which is good for preparing the way for a future snuggly place for a little bean that might make it a bit easier Hmm !! take care

MandaHugNKiss · 29/07/2011 12:23

shimmery Sorry about your Uncle. It's surprising how the loss of someone we know can hit us.

Pie Ugh, sorry AF got you. I know exactly how you feel re reminders and then the disappointment of not even being back to normal. Glad youre going to tlk to the GP but they'll probably just tell you to see how it goes for a while yet (it really can take months for us to return to normal hormonally)

whatso I've been meaning to say this to you after your 12 day af last month and realising you are a runner - how about trying giving yourself a few days off when you think AF is finishing up/when it SHOULD be finishing? After giving birth, when my bleeding died down, if I over exerted myself physically it would all ramp up again. After my miscarriage, I tried to do some exercise 6 weeks or so after the procedure, and two days after my af had ended - before I was into a second set of star jumps, the bleeding had started again as if a tap turned on! So, I stopped, and it all stopped again by the following day. I guess I'm just saying there might be a link between your exercising and proonged bleeding? Seems to make sense to me logically, given my personal experience, but of course we are all different.

blue Hey, great that you're going to be looking your best for all the upcoming swi! I jest, no doubt it'll all settle down but yes, you're right, for things to be off, or differnt, seems par for the course, eh?

eve As has been said, what worthwhile work you do. I do hope you manage to enjoy camp, as much as you'll be glad it's over come sunday.

Summer !!!! I know you're shitting it but you've gotta admit that it all sounds very 'bfp pending'-like your end! I would certainly be poas if I were you... Fingers crossed for you.

So, I'm either 6 or 8 dpo (gut says 6, fertility friend reckons 8). And tested bfn today (no surprise, it's waaaay to early! I had the faintest, barely not even there, look too hard and it disappeared line at 10 dpo last time. Was still stark white bfn at 12 dpo with DS2). But after a temp dip below the coverline yesterday, with a tiny streak of blood in ewcm, followed by my highest temp of the cycle so far today, I can't help feeling hopeful.

As for 'feeling pregnant pre testing' with DD I had no idea - despite finding it hard to get out of bed because I felt sick and dizzy! But I was young and didn't have a clue as to what symptoms might be. I didn't even test until I was nearly 7 weeks and that's only because exDH insisted I was pregnant. With DS1, we were using condoms, and one split. I laughed 'good job that didn't happen a few days ago, when I was ovulating' (knew a bit more aboutmy body by then - I'd noticed ewcm). Anyway, within days my boobs were super sore and I just knew I was pregnant. First test I took was bfn but I was so sure I stopped on the way home from work the next day, bought a test in boots and tested in the birger king toilets next door - bfp. DS2 I knew from about 4dpo, boobs again were soooo sore. It was agnoy feeling 'I am!' yet getting bfns all the way until 12 dpo at which point I stopped testing until 15 dpo and officially 'late' for that bfp. With DS3, I O'd the day we left for christmas in New York. There was no way we could SWI that day, but had the day before. We were due to be there 5 days but got stuck in the blizzard and all flights were cancelled for two days. At 6-7dpo I started spotting very lightly, nothing 8dpo, then a bit more on 9dpo. I didn't feel pregnant in the slightest, not a tiny bit, but then I was in New York so nicely distracted. The spotting just flagged in my mind as implantation spotting though, so I tested 10 dpo and got the super faint line. In conclusion, then, 50% of the time I have felt pregnant, and 50% of the time I haven't!

For the record, I don't feel it this time, but do feel hopeful given my chart, the streak of blood, and my nipples are quietly burning on and off since yesterday...

Time will tell!!

whatsoever · 29/07/2011 12:41

Happy Friday metallers!

baby yes, they are hideously unattractive! I just really wanted to wear this dress as it looks nice (when I can get it on) and it gives me a confidence boost.

summer I would buy those tests if they were available - I reckon it would only need a little tweak in the software to the current pregnant/not pregnant ones on the market Smile

eve have a great time at camp

blue mine is just spotting really, but enough so I would feel a bit ick suggesting DTD to DH.

Annoyingly he is off to Japan on Tuesday for four days, not back until day 13 of my cycle so I at least want to get a couple of bonks in before then, even if I know in my heart of hearts the timing of his trip makes this month look rather unlikely for us.

manda to add weight to your theory, my AF restarted yesterday after 12 hours or so of nothing directly after my yoga class. However, surely there must be blood/womb gunk (sorry TMI!) that needs to come out, so if I didn't do any exercsie for a few days, wouldn't it just postpone it rather than stop it altogether?

pie sorry to hear about your AF arriving and how miserable you are feeling. Wine and Biscuit richly deserved methinks.

[waves to everyone else]

whatsoever · 29/07/2011 12:49

PS If anyone needs a giggle the AIBU thread called "To chuffing LOVE that on certain threads people always say stuff like" (sorry I don't know how to link) is pretty hilarious today.

The one about duracell chickens had me snorting laughing.

Summerbird73 · 29/07/2011 12:57

oh pie sorry about the AF, look you need to have a good blub about this every now and again, there is no shame in it. this is an emotional rollercoaster and we are relying on fate to get us through it. it is heartbreaking how one little digital display/blue line can make everything magnified. chin up love and have a Wine tonight (with a liddle bit of blue cheese eh?)

answering babys question - with DS i didnt feel pregnant at all - i only did the test to see if i could have a bottle of Wine or not Grin. However two days later i was falling asleep at 8pm and my boobs had inflated twice the size! Hmm

Summerbird73 · 29/07/2011 12:58

off to check that out whatso

PieMistress · 29/07/2011 13:46

Thanks for the kinds words peeps (made me cry again, had to scurry off to the loo). I did think about dropping off this thread for a while to get my head around things but I really value the support we give each other so don't think I could! I didn't get AF back until 10 months after having DS and I guess it's only to be expected that things might be a bit haywire after the m/c. I am worried that I do have low progesterone though because of the spotting (and my temps still stay high) and then worry more that the low progesterone might have caused the m/c (must stay away from Google, darn it). And then worry some more that i'm an old mare knocking on the door of 40 so my hormones could be all to whack never to return!

Granny is taking DS tomorrow so DP & I can go out climbing for the day to one of our favourite places. Think I need some exercise, fresh air, quality time with DP and taking part in one of my favourite activities! Nothing like clinging onto a piece of rock with DP shouting obscenities at me to hurry up, to distract me from TTC!

I also didn't notice any symptoms when I was pregnant with DS. I was much more chilled out then and didn't do any symptom spotting at all! I just did a test when AF was late and there the 2 lines were! Oh the innocence!

Just got an M&S dine in for £10 special for tea tonight as a treat! :)

summer I feel so positive for you and your BFP!

whats when do you normally ovulate? You never know CD13 might be back in time and he'll be full of enthusiasm too after a few days away! Grin

manda your chart deffo sounds promising this month (are you also on the charting thread?)

blue thanks for the words, I know what you are saying in that at least the AF goes to show that something is working properly at some point along the way! Spotting pre AF does seem common, I had it for 2 days last month starting 11dpo so wasn't concerned as that gave me a decentish LP but starting at 8dpo for 4 days just doesn't feel right. I knew deep down it wasn't implantation bleeding either!

eve have a fab time at camp!!!

shimmery so sorry to hear about your uncle, big hugs xxx

How are our thread bumps marathon and IQ?

Big hello to everybody else, stuffing myself with a walnut whip now !! xxx

Summerbird73 · 29/07/2011 14:21

DH is pissing me off. I mentioned to him by email that AF still late (dont worry i didnt specifically mention periods! i actually used the term AF which he is more than familiary with Blush ).

he said 'dont get my hopes up - just let me know when you POAS or get AF'. great thanks! so i have to endure this torment mentalling all on my own!! thank god for you guys!

anyway - have decided to POAS when i get in from work before he gets in, that is if DS doesnt nick the pee stick off me!! Grin (when i got my BFP in January DS grabbed the stick and ran round the house yelling 'aaaaaaahhhhhh' hilarious!)

that way i will know whether to (A)celebrate with DH or (b)get hammered on Wine

MandaHugNKiss · 29/07/2011 14:57

You know, summer I think our men probably can't really win in this situation - my DP is asking me every morning 'what's your tempertaure? What's that mean?' and this morning 'Have you done a test?' and whilst I think it's kinda sweet he's so eager, I'd also like him to be unaware and for me to be able to surprise him when there is good news. Fancy a swap?

And if you're testing later, make sure you hold your pee for a few (ideally four!) hours and restrict your fluid intake so that the sample isn't too diluted.

Remember, if that spotting was implantation (and seems like it could have been) then you might not have enough hcg in your system yet for a positive - it ain't over til theaunt named flo arrives!

whatsoever · 29/07/2011 16:08

baby forgot to answer your question. I did suspect I was pregnant when I got my BFP. I had sore boobs and was very tired and weeing a lot. I tested on the day AF was due (vaguely, given my slightly changeable cycle). However, and it's a big however, I had convinced myself I was pregnant in previous months due to bloating and sore boobs, and it had just been PMS on those occasions!

Pie not entirely sure when I ovulate. I'm not a temper or charter so I'm a bit clueless. I did the POAS ovulation tests for a couple of months and 1 month it was day 16 and the next month I didn't get a positive test by day 16 and then we went to stay with my bro and I didn't take them with me, so I never found out. We gave up after that and moved to the SWI every other day method and it worked first time so I never got any better at knowing my ovulation timing.

On that basis I guess we could be OK timewise when DH gets back from Japan and the holiday SWI I am planning may not be in vain Smile

Hope you have a great time climbing and come back feeling refreshed.

summer fingers crossed for good news!

Summerbird73 · 29/07/2011 16:21

s'okay manda DH is coming home early and we have some blue cheese to use up in the fridge so i am back to testing tomorrow morning! how bad is that?? i also want a relaxing bottle of Wine with DH. but also mentalling that if i am PG then i am harming my bean! Confused

this is the one time i hope DS wakes at 4am so i can get up and POAS give him a cuddle! Hmm

ShimmeryPixie · 29/07/2011 17:13

Thanks guys. It was quite unexpected about my uncle (he'd always been healthy). Apparently it was a heart attack. I'm originally from Yorkshire, though most of my family are on the Yorkshire/Lancashire border (trying not to be too specific in case of outage).

This is a quick post (at work and have to go to a dinner tonight) so I'll catch up properly tomorrow.

Summerbird73 · 30/07/2011 07:48

anyone up yet?

BFP!!! Grin

i gave in and tested last night, i was bathing DS and suddenly felt all nauseous and dizzy. told DH and he said no dont test till sunday Hmm i knew for sure when i couldnt manage my second glass of wine! so tested at 11pm last night!!

InsomniaQueen · 30/07/2011 07:56

Omg omg omg!!!!!

Currently doing victory dance and my two little pups are giving me a weird look......Grin!!!

Welcome to the club summer......sooooooo happy for you....this is turning into a lucky thread!!!!
Xxxx

PieMistress · 30/07/2011 08:16

FANTASTIC NEWS summer whoop whoop! I'd logged on especially to see if you'd tested before we left for the day and am so giddy to see it's a BFP! Go girl! xxxxxx

InsomniaQueen · 30/07/2011 08:51

Just had a lovely cup of tea.....obviously the bean did not agree as it quickly made a reappearance!!!!

I was kneeling with my hear in the toilet and my sister said "do your ribs hurt cos mine do"......I said yes and then was promptly sick.

My sis was on form (as usual) and looked up and said "I swear to god if I start being sick now I'm gonna do you in"....it's so nice that I have someone here to pamper me while I'm emptying my stomach......Hmm!!!

InsomniaQueen · 30/07/2011 08:52

Not my hear my head!!!

babysaurus · 30/07/2011 11:55

Summer that's FABULOUS news! Whooppeeeeee! Fuckinell, it seems like we'll soon be getting BFP's from all corners (hopeful!) Wonder who's next....?!

I did log in last but didn't type as I didn't have much to add really. I am actually a bit envious as everyone seems to be, cycles permitting, getting stuck into TTCing and I am, unfortunately, not.

Me and DH went out for a drink last night and I intended to bring the subject up (I know its still very early days but it's playing on my mind constantly) and so I wanted to discuss it a bit more. I ended up getting quite wound up (I didn't show it as I didn't want TTCing to become An Issue rather than a positive thing) as he started talking about triathlons (we did one together two years ago, and I have done one before.) Bearing in mind, you have to book my Dec / Jan at the latest and the actual thing isn't till August its this one ) that's a whole year out. Its expensive too so booking a place but then dropping out is pretty stupid. And he was on about doing it next August! Confused I used that as an excuse to bring up a 'well, we might be busy doing baby things then' and he nodded vaguely and said 'hmm' and then, from what I remember, changed the subject.

I later used the comparsion, and you may find this a bit weird but bear with me, about the cats. This comparison is that when our cat got run over, we were utterly devestated but the thing that made us feel a lot better was getting another 6 days later. The second cat did not replace the one we lost, but did make us feel better about the whole situation and look forward more. To this he said 'I know' and then it seemed really difficult to get him talking about it more. It is a bit like he was understanding about how I felt but thinking I was being a bit silly, and also not thinking of the cash / house blah blah blah situation. I also know, as he told me and it annoyed me, that he likes having me 'back' and we can go out to the pub or whatever together instead of me being in bed for 9pm and him sitting in the building site on his own.

I think I also have a simmering undercurrent of resentment that he has a DS (now 18) so this situation isn't the same for him as it is for me. I haven't brought this up with him as its something he cannot argue with, but its also not something he can help iyswim.

Personally, I would feel a lot better if he was a) more open and b) more enthusiastic instead of a vague 'I might feel differently in a few months' or 'lets think about it again in six months or so'. I realise I am being a bit OTT in some ways as I am not over 40 or whatever but I am concerned about missing the boat all the same. As I have been on lifelong medication, not been the cleanest living person ever (not that I am especially unhealthy either, see triathlons etc, but have had my fair share of benders and ciggies in the past all the same) I am concerned that if I have a MC again then the whole process gets shunted back again etc etc and it could easily get harder and harder. He is also still under the impression that it would not take long, and I hope it wouldn't too, as it didn't last time but this doesn't make it a definate for next time does it?

Sorry to go on. I think this is helping to type it all down as I am getting things more straight in my head. I can see, I think, that I am getting wound up very prematurely and really just need to wait and see for a few months how things settle down cycle wise. I suspect though that you ladies in particular may know quite how hard that can be!

Lastly, I promise I am not normally this self obsessed! Blush

BlueCrane · 30/07/2011 15:02

Whoop whoop...go summer fantastic news Grin Grin !!! I had a feeling that 'spotting' might be implantation!!! Yeah!!!

baby please don't worry about sharing here..I know sometimes it really helps me to write it all down and know that someone who understands will be reading it at some point! I think there's emotions for both of you which will still be up and down and you've got a lot going on with the house etc...I know my DH sometimes comes out with crazy suggestions which just don't take account of TTC/having a baby at all as he just hasn't put the dates together or figured it all out. In terms of how long it might take none of us know whether it will be quick or slow, the same time as last time or totally different unfortunately! Try and take it easy if you can but that's a lot easier said than done!

Since the MC I have been quite chilled about DTD but this morning the pressure for SWI suddenly got to me now that AF has gone and it all felt like we were so back to the start again...which of course we are...and just the thought of going through TTC again seemed a bit overwhelming though I do really want my BFP so I just need to crack on...which we did Wink but it all feels very different this time...not so innocent or exciting as I know that when I do get there it's going to start a new wave of waiting!!

Sorry...didn't meant to splurge that, especially after summer's great news...what was the slogan...something about boobs out and PMA all the way...let's get back to that Smile

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