Just MC and ready to try again? Pack your leathers, black nail polish, air guitar and jump in the mosh pit for some serious metalling. All welcome! (Part 17)

[MarathonMama]

Hello! Just miscarried and ready to start again, come and join us...

I KNEW IT! Yay, summer so very happy for you!

manda any news from you?

How about you too missg ?

BlueCrane thank you. It really does help 'talking' to someone who does know what it all feels like, and the ups and downs that is part of it. Also, as was said, writing things down does help get things in proper perspective. I also don't want to go on about it too much to DH at the moment as I don't want to seem obsessive, and every shag seem as if its for babies instead of fun.

Anyway, back to the good news of the day. I am still wondering who'll be next with the BFP!

Thank you so much guys! This thread is ace - how sweet of pie to log on to check before going out

We have had a busy day today as we went to friends for lunch then DS had a birthday party this afternoon. I turned down two offers of saying that (a) i was driving and (b) i was too dehydrated from last night i almost enjoyed the mystique of it all!!

so i reckon i am due 9 April. Not telling anyone for a few weeks as i am actually only 3 weeks and 5 days preggy, not even past the late AF stage!!

We have loads of Becks Blue in from the last time so i can have a bottle of that tonight (good tip if you dont want to drink alcohol - it is practically alcohol free and much nicer than the other kinds)

baby i know exactly what you are going through, DH was like that before i convinced enticed him into having a babba. it must be difficult if he has a child already, but YOU do not have a child and this is about your partnership. maybe it is too soon after the MC? maybe he is devastated in a blokey way about it? maybe he thinks it is too soon for you and wanting to 'derail' the plans for a while? feel free to vent on here, we have all been there in one way or another.

anyway [waves] to all of you - i am loving how IQs sister is over on the thread in a virtual sense!!!

and i am staying on this thread too, we will all need moral support - i had a twang today and got into a panic - this is gonna be a long 8 months!!

Hi Summerbird, glad the mystique is currently very enjoyable! I ended up telling very good friends when I was pg as it would have been very obvious if I wasn't drinking (hmm, what does that say about me...?) We don't have a car either, and nor do I drive even if we did have a car, so saying I was driving all the time wouldn't have been an option either.

Its so good to speak to people who can relate so much to what I am saying and experiencing. I suppose, as I am only just out of the MC horridness (the physical aspect that is) you lot are a bit ahead of me really esp in terms of getting back into proper cycles or, eeek, the next BFP's! I can imagine him saying he wanted a break from it for a bit, which is understandable, but then he also thinks it would take next to no time to get pg again either. I guess also that men have a different feeling about the whole thing anyway, and men and women aren't as good at relating to each other about these things (bit shit really but there you go!)

So, enough rambling on like a stuck record. I have some news - but please don't bait your breath - one of our rooms, the first room in fact, is NEARLY done. Only the wallpaper (its only going on the chimmney breast) needs to go on and the final layer of varnish on the floor. DH has done an amazing job - previously the room had filthy swirly carpets, nicotine'd walls and 7 layers of wallpaper, crumbling plaster, rotten windowframe and so on - it's now got sanded floorboards, Jasmine white and smooth walls, a built in wardrobe he made from a chest of drawers and then making his own doors, coving and the original built in wardrobe all stripped and re painted. We hope to move into it tomorrow eve. My cousin bought us some champagne when we moved which we then didn't drink due to the BFP so thought that it would be nice to drink it once we are in the finished, only finished, room in the house.

One down and only seven more (if you include the hall) to go! Actually, I think it's better to think of it another way considering the bedroom took three months (DH does a fabulous job but is a BIG perfectionist!) The help in the form of his parents and brother, and maybe sister in law, come for a week on the 20th. This will hopefully make a big difference (although, not meaning to sound ingrateful, his parents and brother make DH look like a fast and slap dash worker!) to the progress too. I have been offering to do stuff all the time but he says he doesn't want me to, generally with the excuse that I've been ill recently but, I suspect, it may also be as he wants to do it himself 'properly.' Fair enough, I suppose! We'll get there in the end after all.

Am off to get wine. I shouldn't but what the hell!

Maybe back later.

(I love this thread!)

Awwww, Summer fandabbydozy that's fab news! Congratulations!!!

Baby how frustrating for you, I suspect from what you say it's just too soon for him. I suppose the only thing you can do is to give him time and not apply the pressure but I can totally understand how you feel. My DH also has two DCs from a previous relationship so I've always felt having a baby was more important to me. It was frustrating when I was pg with DD as he wasn't anywhere near as excited at the scans etc as I was.

IQ yay for the symptoms, and sympathetic sister symptoms (say that quickly) . My DH got sympathetic symptoms when I was pg with DD. He's really embarrassed about it and convinced that it was a coincidence but they were definitely there. I can remember us commuting home from work together on the train, holding hands because we both felt so queasy! Bless 'im!

Blue chin up girl you can do it! You're right at the start of sexy time so I can understand why it's so daunting, but it won't be long until you're in the 2ww I can't remember MissG's mantra but I'm sure she'll come on and remind us. I know it involved @@...

Pie don't leave us! This is the place to vent a spleen if you need to, we all understand and will never judge. If it helps to share, here's a great place to do it.

Symptoms all gone here so feeling very Convinced it's bad news, so much so that I couldn't face booking a early scan as I want to put off hearing horrible things. I wish some symptoms would appear to make me feel better but I feel totally normal.

Anyway hello to Manda, MissG, Shimmery and anyone I've missed.

Hi Peepsicles,

Well I am feeling better today (despite the horrible heavy AF). DP & I had a really fantastic day out climbing in the mountains, it was blue skies and breezy (so no midgies!) and it was great to be cursing my way up a climb!! We then had a lovely pub supper afterwards before heading home.

I did quite a bit of googling yesterday about low progesterone and cycles after miscarriage and do feel better in that it's really common for cycles to be messed up for a while after m/c (still going to see GP on Friday though) and I read that exercise can really help regulate your body's hormones. When I conceived DS I was really pretty fit whereas the past 18 months (since he was born) i've basically done bugger all exercise so, with that in mind, I cycled to the library last night with all my books then climbed all day today. PMA PMA PMA !! I also did quite a bit of reading on the benefits of acupunture for fertility so might give that a go. Has anybody ever tried it? God I am sound like a woman obsessed

I think one of the reasons this thread works so well is because of the TLC we give each other (Lesley Regans miscarriage book and Zita Wests's pregnancy book both advocate the benefits of TLC in preventing miscarriage). So let's have a whoop whoop for all future happy and healthy pregnancies!!

marathon I know it's very hard but please don't try and assume the worst (I know I would probably be the same though!). Aside from one very brief spell of nausea (lasting a day) with DS I didn't have any symptoms at all until my bump appeared at about 18 weeks. I can understand that ignorance is bliss but if you could see a little bean it might help reassure you? How many weeks are you now?

summer just wanted to say again your news is awesome !!!

blue I totally understand about the SWI pressure. I sometimes find it quite hard to muster up the energy to do it so much and don't want to miss any opportunities!

baby the way I put it across to my DP initially was 'how about let's not try, not prevent' so that we wouldn't use any contraception and just see what happened. So not deliberately TTC but taking a more relaxed approach (I was obviously monitoring my EWCM and encouraging more SWI then but he wasn't aware of this!). Your house looks amazing by the way! Where abouts do you live? I love the wallpaper too!

IQ loving your sister symtom spotting! You must be very close :)

Well, i'm feeling very weary after today so time for a shower and a nice magnum with this week's Torchwood!!

Waves to everybody !! xx

typing on phone and the text keeps changing size so this will be short. MarathomMama, I have read loads of threads where people have said their symptoms have vanished but it was all okay. I know there are no guarantees either way with this baby making business, but try to keep positive! Easier said than done I know but aint over till the fat lady sings, right?!

Will be back later - this phone screen is doing my head in and I can't scrol up and down the thread easily either.

Baby we crossed posts, glad the house is getting sorted. Thanks for the reassurance. I'm just hoping it's all ok.

Pie there's a lady on one of the other threads I've been on who absolutely swears by acupuncture for ttc. I've no experience myself though.

Back from a lovely long walk with my dog so feel as if the wine, which I will have AFTER I help DH with the wallpapering, is now justified.

PieMistress I live here . Realise I have prob outed myself now to the max, but am also guessing that anyone who knows me may have worked out who I was before now anyway. Also, the link instead of the name might keep me slightly hidden (grasping at straws!)

Shit - can't stay now as the wallpaper beckons. And then the lovely glass of wine...

Just popped on quickly. Had a funeral on Friday, out car shopping yesterday, and have my wee nephew just now, so barely a mo to catch up.

Summer OMG! OMG! OMG! Amazing news! Congrats!

Will catch up properly later.

Ps. no news here. CD27, brown spotting but think it's the beginning of AF rather than anything else. Reckon by time I log back on tonight, AF will be in full swing, and I'll be back on the

Right, 15 month old currently tearing up the upstairs. Talk later!

Hello MissG, here's hoping the spotting is something more exciting Did you get a new car? Have fun with your nephew, is he talking much yet?

Pie I got the lady on the other thread to give me a summary of her acupuncture story and here it is:

We started trying in July 2008 and it took a year to get pg....that ended in a mmc, growth stopped at 4/5 weeks but it wasn't detected until i had an early scan at 8 weeks. Mc happened eventually happened naturally at about 11 weeks. Took about another year to get pg again. Had a scan 6.5 all fine, 8.5 pg had ended, had ERPC the next day. Went to see private dr in Harley st for blood tests. As a result of AMH test and FSH he told me I had fertility of 44 yr old (I'm 38) was unlikely to conceive and if I did I'd have 75% chance of mc. He recommended that our best option was IVF with donor eggs.
So I went to see acupuncturist. He was v positive and started me on some chinese herbs and acupuncture every week. This time it 4 months to get pg (but 2 of those months we didn't actually try due to me and dp being in different countries at the 'right' time) He gave me different herbs once pg and I am now nearly 14 weeks and see acupuncturist every 2 weeks.

I've just copied it verbatim but she said she's happy to answer any questions. I will copy a link to the thread here so you can contact her direct if you want any additional info.

Hope everyone's well, can't keep my eyes open today, we've got DH's brother and his family staying and the DCs were up loads in the night as they couldn't sleep. Grrrr! Might go for a snooze now as everyone's out and DD is having her nap. Speak later dudes!

Will catch up properly when we get home but just wanted to tell marathon to keep her chin up!!!!

I utterly refuse to give up on you and the pg......no symptoms doesn't always mean anything bad. I was sick yesterday and feel totally normal today!!! If your stressing about having a scan done why don't you ask for a blood test from the mid wife - they can check your hcg levels and then they will know where things are.

Going for an early scan was ridiculously scary and I was torn between not wanting to know if it was bad but being desperate to know if it was all ok. I know exactly what you mean about wanting to avoid bad news but what if it's good news, what if everything is perfect and then you can start to get your head around things and give your self some time to relax into this pg. Sending you huge hugs from casa IQ!!!

Xxxxx

Evening all...hope everyone's been enjoying the sunshine this weekend...

baby hope the wallpapering went well...love the choice by the way!

missg how are you doing? Has the spotting amounted to anything yet? Hope you're doing ok an have had fun with your nephew!

marathon hope you got to have a snooze...feeling so tired is good!!

summer how are you doing?

pie so glad you had such a good day climbing...sounded fab! Interesting to see your comments on exercise and hormones...think that's a good encouragement to me to get up and do my exercise DVD in the morning as didn't manage it yesterday! It would make sense as I'm sure that the healthier we are the better our bodies function IYSWIM

Grrr...AF seems to be making a reappearance...or just spotting to let me know that she's still hanging around with a few mild cramps just for good measure...no wonder I've been feeling sluggish this evening! Only managed a rather than but might go in searcg of some chocolate to go with it now...

evening everyone

Blue does this make you still in the WTF cycle do you reckon? i agree that chocolate is the way forward!

baby i have heard that Hebden Bridge is fabulous! one of my (gay) colleagues lives there (i say gay in a non derogatory term as HB is apparantly a mecca for lesbian/gay couples due to the Sylvia Plath connection - even tho she was never gay!). Have you recently moved there?

marathon how you doing? i know you are still mentalling but tiredness is a classic preggy symptom - i had it with DS immediately and am having it now (tho not sure if it is psychological).

missg any news? do you have AF or are you thinking of POAS? and how was the daaahling nephew?

IQ how is your li'l bean today?

waves to manda eve shimmery whatso and everyone else

i am having a weird day today, it is a mix of elation and mentalling. i start my counselling sessions tomorrow night and will feel weird going in saying - oh yeah i have had some crap things going on but yay i am preggy!!

i have had a lovely bath and a cuppa hot chocolate but am now sitting in bed thinking 'why did my last bean not stick? what happened? was it something i did?' and generally mentalling. on a nice note my friend (the one who is starting chemo this week) texted me tonight saying 'have you POAS or are you still mentalling' i lied and responded that AF was keeping me company but only so i can tell her to her face in 3 weeks time that i POAS and got a BFP!!

will do a proper catch up tomorrow when i am at work

Hi All,
I am knackered. The wallpapering, bearing in mind it was just the chimney breast, took over 3 hours due to the pattern matching. Never done wallpapering where there is a pattern before so all this was very new to me - I thought we'd be done in an hour! As the paper is a scary £89 a roll too we had to be very careful indeed (ie we were almost scared of it!) - we justified the expense on account of us only papering a bit of it, the rest of the room is jasmine white.

I too am encouraged to hear the links on exercise and hormones too (may be Googling in a bit!). While I am fairly active, I think a bit more would never go amiss.

Marathon I hope you're managing to keep your chin up!

Waves to everyone else!

x

summer hopefully not still in WTF cycle...last week was definitely AF as it was v heavy and painful and it's now 7 weeks since ERPC sooo I think (hope!) it's just our favourite aunt hanging around a bit longer than she's welcome for!! The what seems to be usual confusion following MC though!! Even so, providing she doesn't come to much we can still crack on with the SWI...managed yesterday CD7 (I know a bit early but may as well get the practise in!)

baby I thought that paper looked expensive and patterns + chimney breast + no doubt not totally even walls = looong time, lots of patience, a few swear words but hopefully a stunning result at the end!! well done!

Right...I'm totally wiped so will do a proper catch up tomorrow when most of us are at work and seem to be much more active then than when we are at home

Hello all Popping by very briefly to say a huge congrats to Summer, fabulous news. I am in bed following a whole day hangover after yesterday's wedding so will be back tomorrow properly.

[waves to all metallers]

Ok. Have actually got out of bed and come into my office to type as my phone is shite not so good for MN

Mantra for this thread is:
"CHIN UP, TITS OUT @@, and PMA ALL THE WAY TO THAT BFP!!"
But also, for those already past that:
"CHIN UP, TITS OUT @@, AND PMA ALL THE WAY TO THAT DD!!"

IQ am loving your current commitment to the PMA . And your sentiments to Marathon. Epitomises what the thread's all about really

Marathon spotting still just that, but BFN tonight. Got a 2 pack so will do another on Tues morn. Thought the 'TMI' CM was a sign, but then the evil telltale pre-AF symptoms started - not all, but some. So still .

Blue, yes, will also catch up properly tomorrow before when at work (you are very perceptive really hope my internet usage isn't monitored )

Hi everyone else, and, again, to Summer Eeeeeeeek! x

Pft, Tues morning my arse! POAS this morning of course, BFN.
This is CD 28, ucl 27/28. Spotting seems to have stopped but no AF. Ho hum.

Manda any news with you?

Marathon Yeah! Symptoms! Do not forget the mantra, I repeat, do not forget the mantra. No new car yet, undecided. My DH has an Audi TT (he also has 6 points on his licence ). Ridiculous and impractical. So I need a family size car. But he says we can't afford another expensive car and we're not likely to get much for mine (9.5 years old, 115,000 miles on clock), so it needs to be a reasonably priced one. I love the Audi S5 (DH says 'in your dreams'). Ah well, back to the drawing board. I need some time to work on him OR, as he's in Madrid, I could just go trade mine in and buy a new one before he gets back!!

Summer well done with the will power. Your friend will be so delighted when you tell her!

Baby sounds like you have had a very productive weekend, and deserved a large after all that hard work!

Blue you are definitely right to be covering all bases! We probably can't know for sure what might be early or late in terms of OV so soon after out MCs, so best to get shagging at every possible opportunity .

Whatso hope you're feeling better today. Here's a and a

Hope everyone has a good start to the week. Hi to IQ, Shimmery (so sorry to hear about your uncle) Pie Eve and anyone else who might still be lurking.

Good morning all.

I got through another year of camp!!! The kids had a ball. Which of course is the most important thing. Few downs 4 girls will be 18 next year so it was there last year :-(. one of the girls is expecting. Which is very exciting for her but bit :-( for me.

Anyway - Go Summer so excited for you.

Marathon and IQ hope you are both keeping well. Wow this thread really is moving on.

Baby - it is early days since your MC. things will move on I promise. Hope the wall papering looks good. MY DP is the same he did the bathroom last year and I am not allowed near the decorating - even though it is still not finished. In that time I have repainted 3 rooms. Just DS room to go but it need new carpet in there so DP needs to do skirting boards.

Hope everyone else is ok and had a good weekend. Still no AF here was ok about it but today am fed up just want to know where i stand. Got back from camp yesrerday DP said so you up the duff yet :-) bless him, need to dtd first love.

Hope you all have a great day. I am off to my mum's on wed for 3 days so much for a week off.

missg eeeeeeekkk indeed! i am still mentalling though! had some AF type cramps this morning which was a bit but now i have sore boobies which is i also got paranoid when i looked at the CB digi and the display has wiped (it only lasts a couple of days) and got all that my confirmation has gone!!! see what i mean - still mentalling!

also crap about your BFN

baby that wallpaper is lovely - although i would never be allowed to spend that much - DH is a 'B&Q bargain bucket' type of guy.

eve glad the weekend went well - crikey the blokes are tactful arent they?!

fanx whatso did you enjoy the wedding? (clearly you did given the hangover!)

blue what i meant was are you onto a new WTF cycle? and yes you are indeed correct - i do far more MNing at work

how are IQ and marathon this morn? any sore boobies or vomiting? eh? eh?

wheres manda and shimmery ?? you havent been online for - oo - at least a couple of days!

forgive my foolish typo - of course i meant metalling and not metalling

DH has thrust me out of the pg closet by informing his entire family over this weekend (there are only like 10 people in his family but that is kind of besides the point) Im not happy about it all but I have warned them all that the first sign of fuss I will just stop taking their calls.....I can't stand it and it drives me insane!!! Never mind I suppose it had to be done sometime but I said to him that if things don't go ok he will be in charge of telling them all considering I didn't want anyone to know in the first place!!!! But moving on from that feeling ok today - a bit sickly but not actually sick so

Summer - yeah my sister is mental but what is a girl to do! Been mostly tired today but that is probably cos I was awake for 4 hours during the night. I have decided to rename the bean 'biscuit'.....I'm not really a fan of beans but do love chocolate malted milks/hobnobs so feel this is more appropriate. DH looked at me like I was insane but as I reminded him I'm the one growing it so I get to give it a nick name!!

Baby - glad your making progress on your house and that you are feeling happy enough to share how your feeling here with us!!!

Marathon - how are you doing today?

Pie - climbing.....wow....I'm not great with heights but would love to do something outdoorsish. If you go down the acupuncture route you will have to let us know how you get on!!

Eve - glad camp went well and your having a few days off. Currently keeping well, just trying to keep dh's feet on the ground.....he keeps saying things like "when MY baby is old enough we can do X,Y,Z" I think he has forgotten that there is a little bit between all that and where we currently are!!!!

missg - your keeping everyone on tenterhooks here....oh well shall keep hoping you get some blue pee soon. I love audi tt's but dh said "hell no"...oh well I will keep working on him.

Whatso- whole day hangover obviously you had a great time....he he he!!!

Blue - fully agree about us being more active during the working week...at weekends not much happens and then on monday....bam...it all kicks off again!!!

Bloody DH I don't think he realises that pg women should not be argued with.....he has decided he wants a bigger car cos of pg and two dogs - fine no problem. I made a few suggestions and he started looking at prices. He then got stressed with me because I didn't care whether it was a 1.4 or 2 litre all I care about is that it gets me from a to b. He then replied "well if that's your attitude then it's a good thing I'm the one looking at this and not you".......i can't believe he is making it out like I'm being deliberately difficult - I don't care about engine size, colour or anything else as long as its big enough for the baby and the dogs and suitcases.......rahhhhhggggg !! I fully accept this is my hormones being irrational but DH has to learn that I will take whatever attitude I feel like for the next 8 odd months!!!!