Feisty, Fabulous Forty somethings

[galwaygal]

This is a continuation of the "More ongoing and continuing conceptions and follicling ahead of Feisty, Fabulous Forty somethings"

I thought I would keep the title short as there are so many long ones out there.

I thought I would start the new thread so that you don't forget me

hi all. Lou sorry about bfn. This time of the month is a bit rubbish I think - I can never stop myself being hopeful, analysing every little symptom and then a huge negative crash. it's shit.

Anyway, i'm still in positive phase (like every month!), but only 6/7dpo here. Having a progesterone test tomorrow.

i think I had a bit of spotting on Friday night which led to some frantic googling about implantation at 5dpo. cettainly way too early for my af to turn up at cd16 or whatever.

Had a very heavy day yesterday - went out on a mn meetup at 1pm drank all day and then went to a party in the evening! unsurprisingly I was too tired to really enjoy the party and couldn't face drinking anymore wine so was on water by that stage. And today it's my turn to get up so am here with ds2 watching cbeebies.

gum you sound to have got to the place I am with my dh. We don't talk about ttc much unless it's when i get emotional about it. I make things so much worst though by getting very tense at ovulation time.

curly have you tested yet? Who else is close to testing time?

Oh lou just (((()))) for you. Ain't over yet but a hug is always good right? xx

Oh Lou it's heartbreaking and here's a virtual hug from me ((((((((@)))))))). I wrestling with myself whether to test or not but I don't think I'll cope if it's BFN then am just waiting around for rusty to turn up, it's just soul destroying . My cycle has never been the same since I had mc last year (6 Feb) the shortest being 15 days to the "norm" of 28 days but of late 23 days. So I will wait to test am currently on cd27.
Gum even though you didn't feel celebratory, it was probably good for you to get out and do something different. Be kind to yourself ok, we know how hard emotionally it is after a mc/loss I remember all too vividly. BB sounds like you had fun and what a great way to spend a Sunday morning snuggling up with your DC on the sofa watching Cbeebies. Erm where's Hippy? Diege how's that marking coming on? Lia how's things? Waves to Italian Porth Nicole Cereal Jolls latestarter zeb gg hairy muchlove and anyone else I may have forgotten to mention mwah.

Hiya - can I join you ladies? New to Mumsnet, am a 41 year old mum to 2 boys and we have been TTC on and off for the last year. Gave up for the second half of last year as it was doing my head in, but have decided to start again this year. I bought a digital test to check my hormone surge to find my most fertile days from the boot sale last week that was still in the celaphane having said I was going to leave it to chance!! So I tested for my happy day and it was yesterday big smiley face on the stick, so hubby was greated when he came to bed by me lying on the bed naked with a welcoming smile on my face!! Is that TMI??? I haven't used the tests before so I am thinking that I give it a rest now? Is that right? Anyway I will have a read through these threads and good luck to everyone :)

welcome busy... pls don't woryy about TMI. There are pretty much no limits. You'll fit right in. In fact I can see you and hippy hitting it right off :)

Hi to all. Off for bed for 3of5 shortly. Have my NHS recurrent MC appt in the morning, it'll be interesting to see if the advice is any different to the expensive version...

x

Welcome busy, may your stay here be short and sweet - and productive!

Ah thanks ladies - glad to see some other old (!) ladies going for it!! xx

Morning all

Had a really positive appt this morning at the recurrent MC clinic. The consultant was lovely.

Basically if I get pg again, I will get scans at 6/8/10/12 weeks, and immediately I will be under his care.

He reiterated what I'd already learned at the private clinic and was appropriately empathetic to my situation.

I didn't want or expect a "it'll all be ok" type chat, it was just really reassuring that I would get lots of handholding and support next time round.

Even with 43 looming next month, and after 3 MCs, with the all-clear results I have had, there is a 60% chance of another pg NOT ending in MC. (In fact he said slightly higher as I already have a child).

What we did talk about (raised by me) was the tough journey of pregnancy of women of our age... as in harder to get pg, more likely to MC, higher risk of chromosomal abnormality etc. I guess I wanted him to know that I was realistic about the chances of having another child, and although I am/will try again, I'm doing it with a more balanced approach.

I feel in quite a good place.

My dad died 3 years ago today, I still miss him terribly, and wish he'd had the chance to meet DS. And I wish my sister hadn't gone bonkers since his death and was part of the family again. But overall I am in quite a good place.

Hope everyone else doing ok.

jolls that is good news. I am working on a 50/50 chance if I ever get preggers again and even that is ok. I think when it's gone wrong twice or three times we just assume it will NEVER go right again - am glad to hear they have lifted your spirits a bit - you sound more like the old jolls. Bless your dear old Dad, I miss mine too - so I know how hard it is. I think daughters can have a very special relationship with their dads. Hoping this year will be so much better for you, matey - well deserved.

busy yes, as Jolls says i too have 2 boys and can be a bit upfront with information at times - welcome 2 the mad house - just go with it, don't fight it - let the madness commence.

lou a bit late i'm sure - but sorry to hear you are feeling down. All so totally understandable. Everytime I see people having loads of kids i think lou only wants bloody one. So I cannot imagine how much harder it is for you. You'll get that baby in your arms - I am so sure of that.

italian I hope the thyroid pills work for you. As you probably know I am on them too. I just had my blood levels checked again as I am convinced that I am on a too low dose. I still feel very tired and get the restless leg thing (which were the symptoms that alerted me to it in the fir st place). Also, I don't know if it's relevant but it's been 8 months since my last MC and not a sniffter of a positive. I know that doesn't seem long to some but before I found out about my thyroid the longest it ever took me to get up the duff was 5 months. I know the GP will probably say it's just cos I'm older now but I do wonder if the under active thyroid is effecting my chances of conceiving. What I'm trying to say is - make sure they keep an eye on your dosage. I am on 50mg but I know women on the thyroid thread who are on over 100mg a day. Seeing GP for blood result tommo - will advise what she says. Hope your prayer works and you get your little miracle. Not long now until you start the whole doner process again

curly you have nerves of steal

I'm sorry i wasn't on here over the week-end and that I missed the bistro. I was very busy and my back is bad at the moment (I think all that cleaning did it in).

I am still completely caught up with moving to IOW and getting the house valued which is fab cos I actually have to look at a diary to work out what day of my cycle i'm on - which is almost unheard of for me.

Am coming round to the idea that my family might just be complete after all and am honestly ok about it. Not to say I wouldn't welcome a cheeky last baby just that i understand it might not happen now.

Love to all. XXX

diege you can test again at the end of this week if you like

hi all, jolls good news - I really hope it happens for you soon (and all of us really!).

I was at expensive clinic today for last test. (a 21 day progesterone test). I did have one before, on the NHS but did it too early, so it was a bit meaningless. (had it day of ovulation then by mistake). I have to wait until tomorrow for results, but have to decide today whether to start on the progesterone. its a tough one as i did dtd at the right time this month, but really don't want to take the progesterone because it's a bit yucky. Also give lots of pg symptoms.

Curly are you close to testing? g'wan you know you want to!

Hello busy and welcome! don't worry about tmi here! (Jolls did you manage your 3 of 5? I'll be very impressed if you get to 5!).

louise and diege any signs?

hippy I know how you feel - I (today) feel that I would be ok with finishing my family now, but feelings change throughout the month so much.

Jolls sorry about your father - I'm estranged from mine (no falling out, he just left when I was very young) and your sister. Families are really weird things aren't they?

Hello to everyone else. must go and do some washing (oh the glamour)...

hey BB we did manage 3of5, but it was a bit of an effort tbh. We'd had a long day away visiting family (and graves) so maybe it wasn't a great idea. I was just keen having done CD8 and 9 to then do 11. Am thinking 12 and 14 should do it [gosh it's hard work emoticon]... maybe I should do 13 and 15 . Anyhoo sympathise on the washing, seem to be surrounded and only have one DC... and you have five. Eeeek .
Good luck on prog results. I'm at E tomorrow btw in case you're in the waiting room .

Hippy I didn't know you were thinking of moving... you're right, dads and daughters, bless x

jolls if you don't stop being sooo cheeky to me - I will not push our babies along the sand with you later this year Respect your elders, Mrs!!!

afternoon everyone....and so the madness starts.....managed a pretty good effort on the bding front, but still haven't ovulated and am on CD19, so think something has changed for me.....had four days of high on the monitor and nothing....i've been lucky to have no ovulation problems in the past

sorry you feel so crap louise, could you deal with giving yourself a few months off TTC and take some of the pressure off?

welcome busy, the more information the better i say....we did the deed on friday whilst my brother-in-law was downstairs feeding our child

you are strong for holding out on the testing curly, i even tested this morning as i thought maybe i had already ovulated and by some freak chance was actually pregnant and that was giving me a high reading on the monitor....sad sad sad

glad you are in a positive place jolls as you remember your dad today.

hi everyone else - at least the sun is shinig in londong this afternoon

jolls XXX

I know - the 'island' is actually a good film and being sent there is not a good option at all in the film!! Glad you have respect for me jolls. Lova ya too. mwah.

Hellooooo!! Well I crumbld and tested and a clear BFN . I think it's 'for real' as my temps are slowly dropping too. Feel ok, and have had a large 'real' (read non-decaff) coffee which I have enjoyed
I have to say I may well be a stranger for the next 3 weeks. The A level AQA people have very strict deadlines and, combined with my day job, I'll be lucky if I get near MN while the marking takes place..
Anyway, nuff about me! Hippy is it the leprosey island you mention re: the film? If so, it's my all time fave book; didn't know there was a film (if indeed there was)
Jolls you do sound positive . Great to find a good consultant; is he very expensive?
BB go on, take those prog supplements . Just seems such a good cycle for you!
Louise I'm so sorry it's not looking better this month. YOu do kn ow you'll get there soon though? It does seem so unfair
Curly I can't believe you're still holding on! I have a good feeling about it for you
Welcome Busy
latestarted I like your style re: dtd with BIL downstairs
Right, awating call from 'team leader' who will tll me if I stand the remotest c

Arghh he rang mid-post . I have 'passed' for now, but went a bit 'crazy' on one or two answers (his words . The big test is spread over 2 days, so probably back Thurs now. Tis a good distraction from the bfn anywat

oh sorry about your bfn diege - you're still not many dpo are you? I am free from the tyranny of the thermometer and feel much better. So I don't know if I had a temp drop today on 7dpo.

Anyway, decided to go with the progesterone. Nothing to lose I think.

I finally did some exercise today - the Shred dvd came out of it's packaging. I'm not quite sure if i will be able to move my arms tomorrow though.

Did anyone watch The Biggest Loser tonight? i saw it for the first time and was at the weight losses.

Jolls thinking of you today. My dad died when I was carrying DD and so never met her. But we do keep his memory alive and I am sure he would be as proud as punch of his only granddaughter. I am sure you dad would feel the same about your DS.

Big hugs to you today.

Jolls Good news about your appt.Good outcome.Hope it makes you feel more positive.Sorry about your dad.XXX

BB well done on the exercise.How have you found temping? I m thinking of doind that also this month.

Diege excellant news on the extra marking.Well done

Latestarter don t know if you know my story, my dd was stillborn in Oct 10 so you can see taking time off ttc is not an option!!!

Hi italian you ok?

Curly hows the non-testing going on?

Hippy ((())) Thanks XXX ,Good on your plans for moving.We plan to move as soon as we ve had GBOS [Georgie's brother or sister] back to the Midlands where we re from orginally.We ve been to the IOW 3x when we were kids was lovely.Always used to be really sunny.

Hi Gum and Muchlove and anyone i ve missed.

Stupid,stupid post on pregnancy threads on a woman wanting advice to comfort her friend whos "devastated" shes having a boy!!!! Stupid fu**g cow doesn t she realise how lucky she is to be having a healthy baby????Some people are so trival and superficial.

Well, the wtf cycle continues!!! cd 29 no af and bfns!!!! I know i m not pg and know i didn t ovulate so just want af here now.Please don t let me be coming in to irregular cycles or long cycles.I ve always been a regular cd28/29 girl think that CP last month has thrown my cycle out.Bas*d CP!!! [you can tell i m not happy} Trying not to stress over it yet but I don t need another problem of hurdle.Why does all this have to be so hard??????

Come on stupid af awaiting to get on Amazon and ordering a bumper pack of opks.So i m counting Jan as an annvolutary[sp] cycle if i get 3 i ll be at the consultant seeing if theres anything they can do.Willing to go private if they can help [?clomid}.

Has anyone else had annvolutary cycles?

Lou I think I had an anovulatory cycle after my mmc last year. My wtf cycle waas 5 weeks. I have had a couple of cps since then and my cycle was strange after both of those too.

I have given up temping! I could never pin point ovulation from it as it didn't tie in with either opks or ewcm, and I found this month that for me the temp rise was a couple of days after ovulation. also I slept really badly (not helped by the obsession with temping) so couldn't rely on my temps as being accurate. Then after ovulation watching for a temperature drop was another depressing factor. So that's it for me now, I'm just relaying on the cbfm and ewcm.

curly have you tested yet? hippy how are the ?

BB good luck with prog. And impressed by exercise intentions!

diege he's an NHS consultant so he's free. And I'm a bit to say rather dishy, again. I don't often find other men very attractive (George Clooney and Paolo Maldini excepted) so I was a bit taken aback... . Changing the subject quickly my BIL used to do A Level marking so know how full-on it is. He then started to write children's history books in school holidays instead - found it easier!! So will be thinking of you.

lou I saw that thread also, and was , but then thought she must be in some very bad place to have that extreme reaction. So whilst I still think it's terribly sad, I also worry for her IYSWIM. Plus IIRC she's one of us (think 43?) so no wonder she's insane . .

italian thanks for your lovely post; hard isn't it when they never had the chance to meet. In fact I hadn't even told Dad I was pg as I worked ridiculous long hours etc and he would have worried. He died 2 days before my 21 week scan. I had been convinced I was having a girl. When the sonographer told us it was a boy I burst into tears. She was a bit taken aback, and then I told her it was because my dad had just died. DS has dad's name Arthur as his MN.

Hi everyone else. SWI 4of5 last night. CD 13 today, have acu appt today, and one more SWI tomorrow I think. It better bloody work....

Hey LOU I think you are right in that the CP may of thrown your cycle out a bit I know 'they' say that you are extra fertile after a CP but it was never that way for me. Just always made the next cycle after a bit dodgy...... so get this month out of the way and 'regroup' and then get ready for the next onslaught of SWI......
I think I may of had an annovulatory cycle last month also I never got a face at all but got a darkish line on the IC OPKs ????? Its soooooo f**king annoying and I feel your frustration......I also understand your need/desire to be PG again (like yesterday already) I really do....are you still doing your reflexology ? Or you could try Accupuncture ??? I am more thinking along the lines of it de-stressing you and balancing you out again.....there are many avenues to explore and get technical with but for now you MUST make sure that emotionally/mentally you are strong again..... Think of it this way its been 3months since the tragic loss of your Georgie that's still a short time really and inbetween that you have had a CP I mean that's enough to do the strongest of peoples head in !!!! And in reality terms you wouldnt put your body through another PGncy just 3 mnths after a birth ???? Do you see what I mean ??? So although time is'nt on your side because you have just turned 40 you musn't try to run before you can walk because you can end up hitting brick walls and that's just gonna take you down......Mother Nature has rules and I guess we have to abide by them....but I truely believe that you will be PGnant again and that she/he will be for keeps this time and at the end of the day that's just about all you've got to hold on to.... so keep your chin up ....and don't let other shit get you down (it's not worth it) ..... xx

I am sorry I not been around much I have been checking in but have not had much to say (I think the birthday blues hit me last week and Ive been grumpy)

But welcome to all da 'newbies' hope your stay is short and sweet (and productive)

HIPPY how exciting for you at the mo ....things are looking bright have you found your house on the 'Island' yet .....or are you renting first ???? Wow you'll be there in time for spring/summer you can send GUM piccys of your local beach and compare I love love love I.O.W many happy childhood memories (blackgang chine...tennesson point....) from holidays there.......
Thinking of you ITALIAN have you considered a Accupuncure course before your treatment (I know I seem to be pushing the ACCU point today) but it can help with balancing hormones - destressing - calming etc..etc

Sorry bout the BFN Diege but now I guess you can get on without any distractions and then by Friday you can get pissed in the Bistro

Comforting to have a proffessional who listens and cares is'nt it JOLLS it can really make a difference....

Erm CURLY are you still 'holding out' to test ?????? Are your nerves made of STEEL woman ?????

BB am excitedly awaiting the outcome of your bloodtest and of course hopefully a BFP I am gonna go for the monitered cycle after this cycle ends aswell.... I know it costs a lot of squids but hey it's better than being in 'NOMANSLAND' plus I want to check up on my fibroid situation....

Love to GUM and TANK (coz I know she keeping an eye on us all still) and anybody else I have forgotten

xxxxx

God it's taken me halfhour to write this post I hope I don't lose it in cyberspace....

xxx