Feisty, Fabulous Forty somethings

[galwaygal]

This is a continuation of the "More ongoing and continuing conceptions and follicling ahead of Feisty, Fabulous Forty somethings"

I thought I would keep the title short as there are so many long ones out there.

I thought I would start the new thread so that you don't forget me

I think it's a bit borderline muchlove. It shows that ov has occurred, but not necessarily enough to maintain a pregnancy.

curly you can start taking your temp whenever you want. If you look at fertility friend (the website) you input your temperature every day. You need to do it several days in a row before ovulation though because it is a 0.2 degree rise (or something) that indicates ovulation. and then you have to carry on temping because the rise has to be sustained for 3 days. It wouldn't really matter if you started on cd2 or 3 then.

(cd 1 is the first day of heavy bleeding iirc - spotting etc is still from the last cycle).

Okay CURLY sit yourself down and I will begin....
A good way of keeping track of your cycles is to join Fertility Friend.com.....it is an American site that you pay for I think it costs about £16 for a 6mnth membership and that gives you access to all the forums and you get a special guide on the best way to track your Cycle/fertility.....
Otherwise you can look online for temp (fertility tracking) charts and print them off..... Use a digital thermometer (infact boots do a thermometer and charts in a pack I think its called the fertility pack or something ???
You don't have to temp from CD1 I use to but of late only start after AF has finished.
Take your temperature on waking (yeah here's the tricky bit) before getting out of bed and before drinking or eating AND it must be after 3-4 hours of uninterupted sleep mark this time down on your chart by a dot if you are using a paper one or do it online on the above site.
Also mark down the length of AF and if Heavy, Medium, LIght or spotting.
Then mark down the changes in CM (cervical mucus) through the month ie Dry, sticky, EWCM, watery and creamy.
Mark down all positives on OPKs if you use them.
At some point in the cycle you should notice a temp shift (all explained and done for you on the above mentioned site) and once those temps stay elevated you then know you have OVd.
The second part of the cycle known as the Luteal Phase should show high temps for between 12-16 days which usually start to fall when AF is happening or stay elevated if you are PGnt.
I know it all sounds confusing but if you get on with temping it really can give YOU a good window on seeing what is happening in your cycles. I have temped from the beginning of TTC which is nearly 2yrs now and it has worked well for me and shown my cycles to be regular and normal (until now) but there are some it doesn't work for and as BB says can drive you mad and interrupt your sleep and sometimes if your ill or had a night drinking that can show false high temps the next day. Sometimes even having a lie in at weekend can give a higher temp reading. Its just a case of trying it out and seeing if it works for you...

And so the lesson ends I hope that was helpful.... but Im afraid im such a slow typer that there have probably been loadsa replies since you asked .......

Hmm see what you mean BB but you know there are still debates as to whether Prog does sustain a PGncy or not. It for certain won't keep a PGncy that is not viable going but yes it can help bumpf up what you already have if the PGncy is good. So as a precaution it is good to take it and I think it is fine if you only started 7days after OV. Yes it will be a bugbear to have to take it for 12weeks if you are PG as it does heighten all PGncy symptoms....nausea...sore boobs....etc and yes its bloody messy aswell. I though last month I would try it in the back passage to save on mess and it gave me terrible wind and messed my tummy up !!!! What a nightmare it all is eh? ....All in pursuit of the 'GOLDEN EGG'....Fingers crossed for you and toes ....xxx

I think I think that it will boose womb lining at this stage - I think mine is pretty crap normally as I sometimes have a very light period that only lasts 1-2 days. So my thinking is that it if makes the womb lining thick that is good. The consultant says it won't make me pg if I'm not - so my period will turn up anyway. if I do get pg, I know that it won't necessarily ensure that the pregnancy is successful. I just want to get to the stage where I have a pregnancy that sticks - I have had 2 or 3 cps in the last few months that I know of, so I suspected that progesterone was the issue for me.

I am so itching to test tomorrow, but know that it is still too early!

Oh and back passage muchlove ! I did that yesterday - really wasn't pleasant. Would rather put up with the seepage from the front than have to go through that again (and I was at work too!!). urgh.

Thank you much and bb, will copy and paste your info then print it off to read on the commute home this evening. bb where/how does the Clearblue fertilty monitor factor in with temping and please would you advise cheapest place to purchase it and the "sticks"??

The cbfm doesn't fit in particularly - you poas for a few days each month and it tells you when you have low, high or peak fertility. Peak means that you will ovulate in the next 12-36 hours. but swi on high days is also good. I just did it so I knew in advance which days would be good to swi on. Of course that brings its own pressures as you feel shitty if you don't swi on a peak day!

It is expensive and so are the sticks. I blithely thought I'd only need mine for a few months and then I'd ebay it. ha! I got mine (full price) at Boots, but I think they are cheaper on Amazon. and also probably on ebay.

Have you been to see your GP yet curly? You can get some tests done pretty quickly which tell you if you've got hormonal problems etc.

curly how feckin' cruel of mother nature. I think it's worse when you have begun to convince yourself that you may have succeeded. Hoping the temping works for you. DON'T FORGET TO COLLECT THE PRINTED PAPERS FROM THE PRINTER AT WORK We don't want anyone else reading that. Thinking of you, sweetie.

BB Sorry to see that today is the anniversary of your MMC. Mine is coming up soon (as you say, where has that year gone?) I am also about to pass the due date for the pregnancy we lost last June - ahhh so many dates to get past on this thread. Thinking of you today and hoping you're lucky this month. The only thing I think about the anniversary of our MMC's is that at least we are not having to go through it today (IYSWIM) I am sooo glad I'm not having to go in for the EPRC today - that's the only way I can look at it - does that make sense?

muchlove I know what you mean, my mum went through 'the change' in early 40's and I feel it all hovering round the corner and think - I'M NOT READY. I completely get what you're saying, lovie.

Glad I'm not the only chav on here

I think I am gonna be out for this month too. Despite my boobs killing me I did have a spot of blood earlier and as much as I try to convince myself it's implantation I have to say that my AF usually does start with a one of spot followed a couple of days later by the full show. Still I will get some lovely cycle buddies if this is AF

I propose a huge piss up in Diege's Bistro tonight!

jolls who was it who had the good scans and the twins news ?? - I can't find it, that thread moves so fast.

BB How totally strange about the milky boobs

hippy... Mrs PV and someone previously known as someone bouncing and now TonytheTyger... confused... you will be x

Arh Curly what a shitter!!!! I was dependent upon you for "my" good news!!! Cd1 is alway the worst.Come on girl we re going for it for Feb!!!! I m too thinking of purchasing clear blue monitor but I get on well with the smiley faces!!!!

HIppy all of us are going to be cycle buddies!!! We need 1 hell of a tandem bike!!!!!

Muchlove hope its the vitex that's knacked your cycles and not the dreaded big "M" .Anyway, you re far too young chick XXX
There is still time for the big "O" for you [cheeky, i mean ovulation not the other!!! Mind you the other may help!!! Tee Hee]

BB hope your boobs are ok now and stopped leaking!!!! What cd you on? Are you testing soon?

Diege How odd you ve get af now also!!! We re all be on at the same time soon,Funny that often happens with groups of women doesn t it????

Hi all Italian and Gum and anyone i ve missed.

I , too , watch "Big fat gypsey weddings" love it!!!! mmm.........lovely dresses!!!!! I read a book about a gay young gypsey who ended up leaving his whole life, friends , family etc....as couldn 't come out to them as they would never accept him.It's very interesting insight in to their life and ways.A lot of the girls are incredibly pretty and its so hypocritical they don t have sex before marriage etc....but dress in the slutish way!!!!

We re following the egg meets sperm plan .I like it and we ve been sucessful with it with Georgie and Dec's CP.

No af but i m chilling now as know its on it's way and know Feb will be my month [I m determined again!!!].Feel it's on it's way.COME ON THEN!!!!!!!

Love to all XXXX

Good times are on the way for us all I can feel it in my water!!!!!

I hope so Louise! Yes, let Feb be the month of the Snug Babies. Two of my dcs were conceived in Feb, so as dh says it may be our lucky month.
The mid-week 'annex' bistro is officially open with a range of beverages, alco and non, to suit all tastes and pockets. Snacks are later (served on those dimpled brass bar tables but are the 'lite bite' sort so things like posh toasties, dips, (non-posh) dorritos, (posh) oat cakes, oh and a huge selection of recently defrosted Iceland choc eclairs and cream slices. Will that do yer demanding lot?

I ll have 1 of everything please!!!!

Yes i ve decided Feb is "our" month here for a bumper load of November babies.But, i ll have mine first please at 37 weeks which is the week after Georgie's birthday seeing as its my idea!!!!!!

Not that i m demanding at all!!!!

Yes, you can go first Louise
I have now been cleared for marking!!! so just 185 scripts to go

Still at work but I'll have a very large double vodka with cranberry juice please

Coming right up Curly - I will deliver to your office in about 10 mins so listen out for the door going

Thanks for that diege really needed that and would have another but am leaving to make my way home. Catch up with you all later.

Hippy runs in gobbles loads of nibbles, drinks 6 large gin and tonics and hugs everyone... "I fucking love you lot.." slur slur.

diege congrats on being good at what you do - we all knew that anyway.

lou honestly, nearly cried to see you so chipper. That's the truth. AF must be on her way. You soooooo get to go first, my sweet.

Hippy buggers off to nod off somewhere in the corner of the room.

Lovin' the mid-week bistro.

curly hig hugs to you and your DH ((()))

Hippy I loooovvvveee you too!!! Thats without alcohol!!!! You hurling in the corner of the room??? XX

3 more LARGE voddys for Curly pls on me..... XX

Go Diege Go with the marking!!! Get some wine down you it ll make it all so much easier!!!!

Hmmm righto .....MUCHLOVE sits at bar necking back bottles of 'Peroni' muttering something about charts and temps and lost eggs then takes to the floor and dances ridiculously to Michael jacksons 'You wanna be startin something' before tripping over her 'big fat gypsy 3" plastic heels and bruising her hip......what a joke !!!!!

x

Love you too!!!! Muchlove you look lovely in your "lovely" heels!!!! You dancing around them???? Tee-Hee [Louise titters to herself at the mental image.....]

Right, you lot are too much for me ....Can t keep up i m off to bed mmmm.....maybe for a little lovin.

shit, sorry I'm so late. DS poorly and only just feverishly dropped off....

I would like ... a VERY large glass of my fave OysBaSauvBl (for which I definitely may have a bit of a rep...)... and some plain kettle chips. And some olives. And maybe some nuts. Any nuts (except walnuts - slimy little buggers)...

Ooh, I like walnuts, especially when they're on top of a whip
Anyone mind if I put some 'Steps' on?

trust dirty diege... had to bring bondage into it...

I hadn't even thought of that...honest..

Oi Oi what's going here then......you've all had a few and I need to catch up