Feisty, Fabulous Forty somethings

[galwaygal]

This is a continuation of the "More ongoing and continuing conceptions and follicling ahead of Feisty, Fabulous Forty somethings"

I thought I would keep the title short as there are so many long ones out there.

I thought I would start the new thread so that you don't forget me

OMG!!!!!!!Diege you ve put me to shame!!! 5 dpo!!! Are you going for the earliest bfp EVER???? STEP AWAY FROM THE TESTS!!!!

Hippy lol!!!! I don t think the sheperds in Outer Mongolia know about my menstraul cycle!!! Hang on i ll text them.

lou They do know - it was on their monthly newletter!

diege ok that's enough shaking, you can lift your head up now. Those HPTs don't expire that quickly you know - you can wait a few days!

No real symtoms here. Boobs a bit tender but not Dolly Parton Boobs yet. Still it is only about 5 days post ov and no one would expect much at that stage - would they.......

Fortunately i have been so caught up in this house business I haven't thought about it much - hopefully I wont realise until I'm about 12 weeks pregnant and then i'll bother to test.. yeah right!

One more estate agent coming tomorrow to give me a valuation, I might ask him if my boobs look different

nicole you are sounding very knowledgable on the whole TTC thing - see how easily we get sucked in.

Moi? knowledgeable? I am officially an information junkie, but have only dipped in and out of my TCOYF book, ooer matron!

Good luck with the estate agent and I hope he gives you the answer you want about your boobs!

Gum so sorry for you. I've been sat here thinking about if there are indeed any differences in the way men process information and deal with events such as these. One thing I can think of is that the attachment to the foetus may be different for the man because he is not growing and nuturing it. Or it could be just how they see things. I don't know, but I really feel for you if you feel alone in your grief. It must be really quite isolating.

Diege Thanks for taking my booking. Please can I have a window table? I will be a work widow, so alone and I'm a people watcher.

Louise So nice to see you able to raise a virtual smile at times. Have you managed to refrain from testing today? Better do one before tomorrow night if your planning on a night at the bistro!

Hope everyone else is ok, I've realised it's easier to keep up if I come on here more often!

Ooh hippy I'll join you on......... watch ahem mine of course not yours and a lot of knicker checking too. They're feeling quite tender/sore, cramping a little and I'm weeing a fair bit more than usual, however AF due today. know when I'm due on as I feel drained and have a huge sugar crave, but none of that so far. Well I say today my cycle is forever changing but if I go according to my last 2, which is 23 then rusty is due today. My question is when should I test, shall I wait after cd28?? Oh you know what it's probably all in my head, somehow just feel that I'm destined to be disappointed

lou do you think you ovulated early this month...?

Hi to all. Meant to start SWI last night, but CBA. Will do so tonight. My last chance to get a BFP at 42 .

Been having an especially lovely few days with DS. Lots of fun, cuddles and games. Really special .

Will pop back later or tomorrow for proper catch up xx

jolls glad you're having a good time with DS, it is important for those of us lucky enough to have existing DC's that we make the most of them and don't obsess too much about future kids (Hippy is reminding herself more than telling jolls.) Did lou tell you she'd ov'd early - she never bloody mentioned it to me

nicole Don't be alone at the table - I'll sit with you, I can bore you about my big move - yawn yawn.

curly When should you test? Well going by diege's way of doing things - about a week ago!!! Seriously though, it does sound very promising. I think when you have short cycles you don't have to wait for day 28 to test - however, I think you are more sure of a decent test if you DO wait that long. With my last pregnancy I got a faint pos at about day 24/25 but nothing definite until I got to day 28. Good Luck, Chuck. XXX

BB Hi there, sweetie. How ya doing?

gum funny to think that you're fast asleep right now. You must be soo pissed off that you live in such an idilic place but cannot attend the Friday night Bistro - swings and roundabouts.

Am wondering when Tank will pop back and say hi. what was the thread about that you thought she might have started BB?

- haven't done one of those for a while.

ps. The girl from work has found out that the baby does NOT have trisomy 16 mosaic but the placenta DOES - how strange. I am so pleased for her, seems like it might be ok after all.

ps. jolls I wish I was still 42 - you bloody spring chicken.

Thanks Hippy You'll not bore me!

Just a quick one....what does that mean, the placenta has it? Is that why it came up that the baby may have it in the previous test? what does it mean for the future of the baby? What test confirmed it was the placenta and not the baby? And breathe!!!

hippy you're absolutely right. I just wanted to note my gratitude for the child I am blessed to have. And hopefully not to come across as boastful (that's not quite the right word) to any of our community yet to have any DCs.

I know about the placenta thingy! Tis a rare result that you can get from a cvs (at about 12 weeks) when the trisomy is restricted to the placenta only (they don't know how it happens) and baby is unaffected. I've read about it a few times for my work (on risk). It does tend to be the rarer trisomies that 'relocate' like this, but from all the studies I've read the baby has never been affected.
Well there seems to be quite a run of tables for tomorrow night's bistro - I will have to prep chef!Curly, fingers crossed for you! I think the advice is to go by your longest cycle? (as opposed to simply 28 days). Now should I use up another test?

hi all. Tried to post at work today and then my boss suddenly lurched up behind me. I was very shocked. anyway, lost that post rather quickly!

Gum sorry about your dh. fwiw, my dh sounds quite similar.

curly sounds promising...

louise fingers crossed for you - even if you ov'ed late, I'm sure you swi'd enough to catch the egg!

diege can't believe you tested! I don't have any tests at home. Oh apart from one that the au pair must have found and has stached in full view in the bathroom cupboard. I won't ever dare take that out. I am back at the Clinic for a progesterone test (ker-ching!) on Monday and I will start taking progesterone after that. They did tell me that progesterone deficiency is only relevant at implantation stage, so 7dpo.

Hippy I can't remember the full wording of Tank's post, but it was either her, or a friend of yours that posted a thread with a title something like "Oh you C* sassy is pregnant I can't remember the OP, but it was along similar lines!! anyway, would be good to hear from you Tank if you are able to pop in.

MMmm...interesting about your friend Hippy So relived the sheperds are up to date with my cycle hate for them to think they'd been left out!!!! You cheeky whipersnapper!!!

Jolls "insensitive you??? Never ...but that Hippy Tee Hee!!!! Glad you re having lots of quality time with your DS.42 god i feel like a fetus. ,< Louise struts off proud to be the sexbeast and a mere youngster!!!.>

Curly TEST,TEST,TEST well, only if you want to .Your symptons sound good.FX xx

Nicole think i ll live life dangerously and attend the bistro without taking a pst.Oh, get me ....taking risks!!!!

Diege No more TESTING!!!! Do you feel like af is on her way????? Do you know i ov'd early.????????????????????????What are you ? 5dpo???? Mmmmm.....

At least its payday tomorrow.Reason to get up!!!!!

Hippy enjoy your "time" with your estate agent see if he cops a feel of your 's he ll give you a better valuation for your house!!!!

I think diege explained it right. (confused). As I understand it the embryo splits into two and one half makes the baby whilst the other half makes the placenta - all very odd and if I was her I'd be google-mad by now!

lou I heard the sheperds you refer to were most excited to hear your news - not much happens out that way!

jolls you got it in one. That is what i meant. Sometimes we get so caught up in TTC we kinda forget that we have already been succesful before. Moving? me? what are you on about???

Today I was engrossed in susans sob spot and was so emotional reading it - it took me a while to realise that DS2 was calling me. Blimey i sure did hug him hard once I realised.

Thinking of you tank. i cannot imagine how hard it must be to be contemplating being a parent to another child knowing what you know now and I can see why you would feel all the things you discuss on your blog. I just remember saying to you months ago that i hoped you would have another little girl and you could buy her party dresses and show her photo's of Catherine looking pretty in her dresses. I know that will happen for you but my heartbreaks for you every time I attempt to read your blog.

diege can you give one of those tests to curly so she can report back tomorrow please. Seeing as you wont need them for about A BLOODY WEEK!!

Yes, take them, take them all I must say my boobs are very sore (unless they are your's Hippy) but then they usually are at this time.
BB that's interesting about prog and implantation. So when pregnant you wouldn't carry on taking I suppose? (after implantation that is)
Off to bed now; dh away so gearing up for full-on nearly shift tomorrow.

Oh Diege, you really do need to study the book: "how to have a baby - the complicated way" that noone has written..... anyway progesterone suppliments have to be startd before implantation and continued until around 10 or 12 weeks when the placenta is fully developed and able to take over the progesterone production. If you start progesterone suppliments then stop them suddenly, if you are pregnanct; the sudden reduction in progesterone can cause a miscarriage. However progesterone suppliments are yukky, revolting things that only cause me heartache, however I am biased, and for some people (with true progesterone deficiency) it can mean the the difference between a miscarriage and the chance of a baby. OK, longwinded and not that you asked for a lecture on progesterone, but I just felt like popping in here and posting!

Hello ladies. Things not looking so grim today. After more long talks with DH things may be a little different, but it is kind of up to me now and I'm not sure I want to shoulder the responsibility.

You see DH has said, although he doesn't want another one, he can't stand to see me so bereft and will ttc if it means I'll be happy.

I suppose I should be pleased, but I worry about the consequences. What if he becomes really miserable once the baby is here? Will I regret forcing a bub on him? And is it forcing when he agreed? It seems like I am using emotional blackmail to have a baby, but I truly don't want to hurt him, but can't shake the belief that this last baby will complete our family.

He also said he'd like me to wait a few months, so I can grieve this baby first. But I just don't feel I can waste any time at my age. He thinks we are super fertile and it won't be a problem! He also worries that I'll have another and still won't be cured of my baby-lust. I reminded him that by the time I was fertile again (it took two years this time) I would probably be close to 48 and really won't attempt ttc again. I just know in my heart that 6 is the magic number for me. But he is sensible and practical and doesn't see things in the emotional/spiritual way that I do.

Poor man. I feel for him.Honestly I still think we should have another, but don't want to wreck my marriage.

Another bfn today, but cervix is still high firm and closed. I'm thinking that maybe I'll have a longer LP this time (I'm 12 dpo now, 3 days since temp dip and temp dropped a little today). Would love to think I'll get a late bfp, but I doubt it.

Thanks for all your support.What a great bunch of friends.

Deige, testing at 5dpo???It's official - you've gone ttc mad!

Jolls - why is this your last month to ttc? Did I miss something?

Curly, if I could, I'd hand over a couple of tests. I just received 25 in the mail.They are so cheap, how could I resist.

It'd be such a waste if we stopped ttc...Oh well, should probably keep trying then, eh?

Hippy glad your colleagues baby is OK.

Gum try not to take it personally that DH does not feel the same about the baby you lost as you do. My DH has never felt the same way about the baby we lost and so I find it easier to talk to friends who do understand. It is perhaps just the way men are or the fact that it does not happen in their body. But please do take heart, it is not personal, it is just how men are (I think). Glad you are feeling better now anyway.

Yes, Nicole time is a bit of a bitch, we can?t control.

Well, me, weird! I saw doc today (GP) who said he can't understand why I have not conceived and why periods stopped (although he did admit he is not a fertility specialist!). Said womb lining Ok at scan in December and FSH normal (although not sure really) and LH high but not sure it could have been low. Anyway, as not sure where I am in menstrual cycle not sure it matters! Said I may or may not be menopausal - no way of knowing and nothing that can be done anyway until one year after my last period. Anyway, gave me just the tiniest bit of hope. He said thyroid probs may be a reason for lack of conceiving, and now on pills so who knows. Just waiting for a miracle. Went to a Christian meeting tonight and just prayed for a miracle. Not sure I really think I will get one but I have a tiny bit of faith and all it needs is a mustard seed - so there you go!

Jolls, Diege, Muchlove, BB, GG, Louise, Tank, Alba, Spotty, Curley*, ... Uncle Tom Cobley and all, big hugs!

Ah how lovely to read some upbeat posts, they have made me smile. Ok I intend to be at the bistro tonight, what time can I book in please? GG good of you to pop in, how are you? Hippy will you be staying in the same area when you move? Gum do you not thing your DH would be the opposite of miserable when bubs comes along, as on the whole people melt when babies come along?
Had a chat with DH last night telling him there's a possibility I could be the p word. After mc last year, he doesn't want us to "tempt fate" so suggested we wait after 12 weeks to test!!!!!!! Needless to say I told him he was being ridiculous, we settled on testing next week Friday that will be cd 32!! I really don't think I could hold off for that long.

aw gum your DH clearly loves you very much.
(btw not my last month TTC, but my last chance to get pg at 42, it's my birthday next month).
curly your DH is clearly mad . FX for you. Some good news would be MOST welcome.

italian that is really positive re your GP visit. Maybe the drugs will do the trick - how amazing that'd be. There is a parallel to someone I know IRL (she's 41); has one DD nearly 4, TTC#2 since she turned one, had one MC, but then struggled to concieve again. Had a few rounds of Clomid, a couple of gos at IUI, and on the day before she was due at the clinic to start IVF cycle one, she got a BFP! Now 24 weeks pg. I think we've all heard of those magic stories when it seems like there's no chance and then "whoooosh". May yours be one of those, why not?

Hi to all. GG thanks for popping in and putting Diege loon early tester straight.

Started SWI last night; have just realised I've been an idiot. Am trying to get pg for the 5th time, each pg I have needed to have sex the same number of times as which pg it is. As in with DS it was a one off happy accident, pg2 2xSWI and so on. So I need to slot in 5 SWI pre ov... and that's where I've been going wrong. Obviously. So BFP for sure for me this month so long as I get another 4 in in time .
x

Jolls arh....that makes perfect sense!!!! You ll be ok this month then

Italian excellant news from your gp.Hope your visit made you feel a bit better.Good to be given some hope.

Gum glad you ve had a "talk" hopefully you ll feel more positive now.Get to it muchas swi.

Hi gg hope you re ok?

Curly you re the same cd as me!!! I m cd25 today so would be cd32 next Friday too.I m not testing as feel like af is on her way and its still too early.

Was talking to a lovely shop assistant in Boots today who lost her first son as a stillbirth 24 years ago but went on to have 2 more children.She told me i will go to have a child and when i do i must take them in to see her.I told her what we are going to do with Georgie's ashes she said thats lovely.She said she d never told anyone else but her sons ashes are in her wardrobe as she doesn t know what to do with them. Arhhhh.........How sad .

thanks for the welcome. am trying to get used to testing and charting again , though glad to see not much has changed in the world of the big O, checking your bits for CM and baby dancing

you're in a tough situation gum, are the children you already have, your husbands? If so I can see why you would want the experience of having one of your own....at least you and your husband are having are having an open converstaion about it, sometimes it seems that we (me included) too easily disregard our hubbies point of view and his right to have it....though it doesnt help that their reactions to events are so different, i too had a miscarriage (before my ds was born) and whilst my husband was very supportive, it just didnt effect him emotionally in the same way as me.....i hope it works out for you....even better, fingers crossed for the next couple of days.

ive been looking at baby catalogues today.....i am a sucker for them and all their totaly uncessary items

any news yet louise? i think i am going to OV tomorrow, so trying to gear myself up for the necessary tonight....luckily dh is taking me out for dinner, so a couple of glasses might help

hope everyone has a happy and positive weekend

crap, it took me so long to write my message, like a day, that there has been much progress since....sorry....scrap everything i've just said!

you guys cover a lot of ground in a short space of time, i cant begin to keep up! gum you sound like you are really good at being understanding of your husband's view

Does anyone buy Psychologies magazine? I was reading an article in bed the other night, about a fertility expert that was saying that sometimes unexplaned infertility can be down to something as simple as an infection. He went on to say that after a course of antibiotics, the success rates went up!

I'll grab the magazine later and fill in any gaps. Other half is getting some shut eye before work at the moment and the mag is in the bedroom.

I've had a mixed day today. I'm new to OPK's and have followed all the instructions, but don't seem to be getting anywhere with them. This is my 3rd day of EWCM and 3rd day of testing. Yesterday the test mark was almost as dark as the control line, but still far away enough to see the difference in them. That's the closest I've got to a positive, but have nothing to compare it with, so havn't classed it as such.

Italian Your news sounds hopeful, hope the pills pull your thyroid into line and you get your BFP!

Gum What a turn up! You sound like you have a solid relationship to me and like you, I feel scared about the possible effect this journey may have on my relationship. You'll work it out, I'm sure.

What time does the bistro open? I could do with a drink!

Much love to all