Permanent exclusion

[lilsgree]

Can the school do this??
My child has been permanently excluded for shouting at one teacher and supposedly pushing her way through another on her way out of the class. Witnesses who were there say she did not push this teacher and she also claims and swears on God and the bible that she didnt push this teacher.
The school still said in the meeting that there were 13 year 8s who wrote that she did push the teacher but they did not investigate the other students who were there that said she did not.
We have had many calls regarding her behaviour but not towards teachers mostly for breaking basic school rules like eating in the corridors, missing deadlines, and wearing two earring studs which is not allowed in her school.
In the meeting we were given an option to manage move but im not sure if this option is still available for her. How do we get this option because we feel it will be alot suitable than being expelled for something she did not do.

Also my child is black do you think this has anything to do with it?

Look, I know she has other behaviour problems that need to be sorted but in this case she did not push the teacher. I know this because like i’ve already said multiple people have backed her uo and said she didnt push the teacher and she was no where near her. The students claiming that she did were not even present according the thr people actually there.

Awwww such a classic case here.

We have the exact same in my school, child been a disaster since he started so bad the mum used to have to come and sit with him at lunchtime due to his unmanageable behavior.

This has been going on for 7 years, last month he targeted and assaulted my daughter, witnessed by about 20 people.

parents were called, they apologized but then the excuses started and low and behold the race card was pulled.

I dont care if he is black white orange or purple, what i care about is hes a massive dick and is hated by most due to his awful behavior.

Unfortunately he hasn't been excluded as yet.

OP i imagine your daughter to be the exact same, causing trouble and you "backing her" every time instead of actually looking at the issue - get a grip of yourself.

This sums it up. It seems there is a long history of disruptive and totally unacceptable behaviour, not sure what OP did about this, but when school had enough, rightly so, OP plays racism card

Yes she is. She is in the church choir and she attends church every Sunday and thursday.

Of course with her behavior she won't make friend easily. Maybe try to teach her right and wrong?

Uch stop it. You sound absolutely ridiculous now.

??? Someone asked a question

It doesn't sound like this is the right school for her anyway if they're racist.

I would ask to see if they have cctv footage from the hallways or classrooms, but I wouldn't leave my child in a school where they're discriminatory and covert about it enough to get away with it.

So? What's the relevance?
Stop making excuses for her. Now you add in that she has been suspended previously for fighting but that wasn't her fault either?
Your child, and others like her, is partly reason we have a teacher retention crisis and over 40000 leaving each year! Teachers waste too much time managing the behaviour your daughter displays and that impacts on the kids who are well behaved/want to learn.

She may well be in a church choir. That has no bearing on behaviour.

Look what i think everyone is refusing to understand is that she is not aggressive and she on my has issues following CERTAIN rules due to her mentality that it doesnt make any sense. Shes not an aggressive child, rude or anything like that.

They didnt have cctv in that particular hallway.

I understand that but someone just asked a question

My eldest's best friend is Black, he has literally never been in trouble at school. Two years ago, when they were 14, son's friend swore at a teacher, and was suspended on the spot.

DS1, how is mixed race (Indian/white) felt it was out of proportion, he and another child went to the head of year about it. While ds1 never said the word racist, he gave a list of incidents where other children had sworn at teachers, or worse behaviour that didn't get the same punishment.

The suspension was changed from three days to just that afternoon.

So yes, we've seen first hand Black children being treated less favourably in school.

Your dd might not be an angel, but I'd compare if white children are being sanctioned in the same way.

Someone asked a question. Im not excusing her behaviour Im just saying she didnt push the teacher.

Thats what im saying thank you. Especially at a school where racist incidents have already occurred ?

I think you're missing the point.

You don't know that she didn't push the teacher you just believe she did.

It's possible she did. By your explanation she's had many counts of mistreatment in school by staff.

That pushes you to your limit. When you have no where else to turn and you need to leave a situation and someone is in your way it is not a leap to assume that she has pushed them and is ashamed of admitting it for further repercussions.

She might be a nice young lady, who has just reached her final straw.

This is not the right setting for her, and the pushing is neither here nor there. She needs a different school. She is emotionally unsafe at this school, evidenced by the acknowledgement of her shouting.

This. Attend the appeal and ask if they would do a managed move instead. Both you and your daughter need to lay out how things will change going forwards though.

Whats your problem also. You cant compare this shit to my daughter, my daughter does not assault people, shes kind, she stands up for whats right and if it seems like im defending her then so be it because i know shes not the evil monster you all are trying to me think she is. YES she has to learn to follow rules but she is NOT aggressive and she doesnt disrespect teachers. This teacher has been picking on her and shes left it several times and the time she snaps at her thats when another teacher who had nothing to do with the situation wants to get involved and say my daughter did something.

I agree. I would like for to be manage moved to a school alot more locally do i get a say in where she gets manage moved to?

Thank you i will.

Has your daughter's behaviour changed since you moved away from London op? I think you need to get to the bottom of why she's acting like this. If she feels the school is racist as you say then clearly she shouldn't stay there. Have you moved to a very non-diverse area? Have your daughter's problems with discipline only started since you moved? Or did you move because your daughter was having trouble in her old school? You probably aren't going to get anyone at the school to change their position on what happened so you need to move on by finding out what's causing your daughter's behaviour and finding the best possible school and support for her emotional dysregulation.

Lilsgree not really- it will be arranged between the schools and the LA and it depends who has spaces/is willing to take etc BUT you can put in writing what sort of setting you think would be best for her and why. It doesn’t mean you will get it- it is about what’s available / who is willing etc- but you can try.

It sounds like her behaviour hasn't been very good even before this latest incident. Sorry she just sounds like a nuisance and you don't seem to be supportive of the school.