The wagon rolls onto to York for brownies at Betty's...10 boys & 7 girls and still more to come!!!

[GYo]

new thread!!!!!!!

Sorky I am travelling up tomorrow so wont be on line tomorrow. What time shall I meet you on sat morning??? Also IDOB is there are playground anywhere where i can take dd tomorrow afternoon as it will be a long drive and she will need to stretch her legs.

I am off now but will be back later

Hi LB - where are you staying? Rowntree Park just at the back of my house is next to the river and has a nice play park. It is quite pretty to walk through and there are loads of ducks, geese and swans on the ponds/lake with their babies just now which kept my niece amused. There might be one closer to you though.

I think she is staying at the Hilton IDOB. I was going to say that there is a park across the road from the hotel but there are no swings etc but just somewhere to run about.

have emailed you LB

I'm now cheating. DS2 is fast asleep in his pushchair in the kitchen.

LB - if you are at the Hilton then, as Kay says, there is either the grass around Cliffords Tower or you can cross over the road to the river and there is plenty grass to run around on. If you want a proper play park with swings etc then Rowntree Park is still best - let me know if you need directions. It is about 10-15 min walk across the bridge then along the river. It's a nice play park and the cafe (about 2 min from play park) should be open during the day.

sorky- i love the trip trap ones- asda do a cheaper look-a-like, i very nearly bought that one while PG, but decided on the seat to save space.

DD2 had her jabs now, wouldn't guess though by looking at her!! she's currently in my arms gazing up at me very peacfully!!

Back from midwife and baby has now gone from oblique to breech . Trace of protein in urine too, but bp fine so she'll just check again next week. A bit as sod's law all of my active birth/doula malarky is going to be out of the window if I need a c-section. Still, early days yet I know, so will try birth ball/all fours etc again, then moxibustion, then probably a version before giving in!
Dh has to use computer now, so will check fb if not back on here later for final meet times etc! Really looking forward to it .

DS has just had new baby check at Drs and first HV visit earlier. All ok and he has put on weight again. He was 3460g on Monday and 3520g today. We're slowly getting there!!

Oh and wouldn't do jabs for dd3 as I've not had measles and the vaccine in MMR booster is a live one, and hence a tiny risk of tranmission to me . You think she might have mentioned that when I booked it!
Glad dd2 was fine with her's GLASK

Yay Ses!!!

Diege, still time for him to turn!!!

X-posts Diege
Fact that he has moved is encouraging. Just frustrating he's taking the long route. Get your bum in the air though!!

I think that's half the problem SES! He moves constantly, I've never known anything like it, perhaps because there's lots of room there! Great news on weight gain - you're doing brilliantly

DS1 is trying to do CPR on DS2. I think he might be a DR when he is older.

diege - sure baby will move will cross fingers that baby does

kay lol @ ds1

we have just been in the garden had a lovely time still windy grrrr!! @ least warm and sunny

Hello - sorry having a me, me me rant...

Back from massage. Was really good and DD was really cooperative during the session but for some reason I really feel low about the choices Im making about feeding and parenting. Im passionate about breastfeeding but today i look around at all my friends who are FF or expressing and bottle feeding and their lives seem so much easier.

E.g They feed the baby and he/she goes to sleep whereever. DD wont ever do this. Its a battle to get her to sleep in the day. A trip in the car sends her off but she wakes when we get home or stop.
They talk of their babies sleeping through. They feed their babies and it takes 15mins. It takes me an hour each time.

I am just feeling exhausted and wonder if my choices are not helping..

DD is a good baby at night but some days, like today, I am finding days hard. Im not that sleep deprived so things could be a lot worse. But recently she is fussing at the breast a lot,which is frustrating, she wont really sleep in the day despite my best efforts. We dont have a strct routine during the day, except I will ensure I feed at least every 3 hrs (done this because I found that strict routine makes it hard to take part in things during the day if they clash with feed times etc). I feel disorganised and like everything is hit and miss partly to satisfy my need to have a life and that feels selfish. Today I just feel like i've lost all my confidence today and feel deflated and exhausted. Not helped by DH doing lots of DIY at home and the place being a mess. I cant talk to him about it or he will just say, give her formula. He wont just see the need for a cuddle and large glass of wine

At the end of today's massage session the teacher running the course came up to me and screaming DD at the end and told me she was overtired and looked at me like I was talking another language when I said its hard to get her sleep during the day. Im being over sensitive but it really hasnt helped me...

Im sure it might be better tomorrow. Just feel like Im struggling with simple parenting decisions. Like whether to move DD to her own room, letting her cry out for a bit when putting her down.

SOrry thats weird and random, I just needed to get it out. Its hard to articulate all this verbally to anyone...

GYO, sorry you're feeling so rubbish I agree, it's really hard making decisions about parenting, but even harder sticking to them, especially when there seem to be easier options! TBH, the convenience facotr was the reason that I formula fed dds 2 and 3, esp with going back to work so soon, but I do remember with dd1 everyone looking at me as if I were mad when I mentioned the lack of sleep and constant feeding, with the usual response 'just give her a bottle'. . It is tough, but it's your decision at the end of the day, and you should follow your gut feeling (whereever it leads you).
Sorry you're feeling down about it all - does dh really understand do you think? Could you get him to stop his DIY and sit down for a minute and just listen to you? You're not alone by any means - most of us have been there at some point as the wagon attests to, and we're all here for you xxx

GYo - It is really hard - all this "am I doing the right thing?" constantly. It is also difficult not to compare yourself to others (I know I find that hard) and at the end of the day, every mum and every baby is unique and their needs and ways of working things need to be different. You never know, those other mums may be looking at you enviously because you've managed to BF.
As for DH, do try and talk to him. I was starting to get frustrated with mine as he's spent the last 2-3 days out in the garden and I was thinking he may as well be at work. I finally broached this with him as casually as I could and he said he was wanting to feel that I would be ok on my own next week when he went back to work and so had tried to leave me to it a bit more during the days.

I'm tucking into a bar of Galaxy at the moment, I'll send some across to you...

I've lost 3lb!!!!!!!!!!! Just 0.5lb to go before I lose a stone since starting WW 6 weeks ago!!!!!

GYo, sorry you are feeling down. I agree with Diege, you need to go with your gut feeling. If you decide you want to FF then no one will judge you, especially not here. But please remember that she still might be exactly the same if she is FF.

Kay - a stone!! That's fantastic!! You must feel great

GYo I'm so sorry you're feeling low.
Diege is right we have all been there at some point.

Only you can know whether it's right to FF or continue BF, BUT there is no guarantee she won't be exactly the same with FF and then you'll likely have the guilt of giving up BF too
God I've soooo been there and tortured myself in exactly the same way.

With Dd1 structuring her feeds and sleep a la GF was the only way she was happy. It was very restrictive in terms of where I could and what I could do, but she was happy.
There were some things I just couldn't do because it clashed with sleep, that's just the way it was in her early days.
It's not selfish to want to have a bit of your previous life, or even a bit of a social life, probably just a bit unrealistic at the moment.
You're damned if you do and if you don't, eh?

Glass of wine sounds ideal. Sit down tonight and tell Dh how you feel, tell him you're not looking for answers, just a cuddle and an ear to bend.

Oh bugger it! DS1 has fallen asleep in his highchair. I really need to change his nappy but that will wake him up. Urgh..

Wow that's a great weight loss KAYZ! Bugger ds in his high chair, but I bet he looks really cute .
Oh while I remember midwife says baby has really big head and has estimated about 8lb 7oz at birth . Maybe a c-section wouldn;t be so bad after all

He looks lovely. This is our biggest problem with him, if he doesn't have an afternoon nap he tends to fall asleep in his dinner.

GYo, DD1 wouldn't ever fall asleep when we were out either, she had to be at home in bed or in the car. She was Formula fed. I used to look at the BFers and be so envious that they didn't have to faff about with sterilising/making up bottles etc, they could just pop a boob out and be done. Also don't forget that she is still very young, it won't be long before she gets faster at feeding and then you'll be the one that everyone thinks has it just right when you can feed her in 10/15 minutes with no preparation!

Will she sleep in a sling or pram? DD2 couldn't stay awake more than about 1 minute in the pram, it was like a magic spell!