Due May 2009 - There's a bun in my oven and it's making me HOT! HOT! HOT!

[FiKelly]

Shiny new thread already!

Dandy, thanks for putting me back on the list - it looks great. I haven't been on so much lately. I've just been really tired and I find it hard to keep up sometimes! I feel a bit rude if I haven't managed to read all the posts and comment on things happening to people, so I keep quiet sometimes. Will try to catch up though.

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Good morning! Not a great start to a new week cos I am in agony this morning... I have such a pain in my left side near my groin. It's either the way baby is lying or Im severely constipated - but I don't believe it the latter cos I've been regularly - all the grapefruit juice and prunes! It is taking my breath away to be honest! It doens't feel like spd, more abdominal. Anyway I've found my support belt and have it on. I will also be seeing my MW today so will ask her about it.

Have a good day!

I went to get my eyebrows threaded yesterday which I have been having done at the same place for 4 years and the woman jerked my chair backwards without warning 3 times. Since then I have had back and scatica pain and I'm really annoyed as I had trouble with my back when PG with DD and so far have had no problems with this pg. If she has put my back out I'll be .

Sorry for the grumpy post. Morning!! I'm back at work today. Sigh.

Morning all! Febes & divedaisy - hope your aches and pains ease off.

I'm on leave today... I have a few days to use up so I'm planning to spread them out so that I'm pretty much doing a 4 day week until I finish in 5 weeks. Just written a huuuuge list of things to do though, so it won't be a lazy day.

Last night I had my sewing kit out for something & (ill advisedly, belgian will tell me!) decided to try measuring my bump. Obviously I don't know exactly what I'm doing but whichever way I look at it I seem to be on the big side according to my growth chart. We'll see at my next MW appt & I'll try not to worry about it in the meantime!

febes and divedaisy sorry to hear you are in pain. My consultant told me to take painkillers in those situations, particularly if it is impacting upon your ability to sleep. Hope you feel better soon.

We took DS off to pre-school this morning and he seemed happy enough going in. I've left him there and come home to do some housework while I can. DH has gone over to his parents to talk to them about their accusations over the weekend. We've both thought about what they said, and what some of you said on here last night, and while we can understand that they are upset, we are most hurt that they think we are the sort of people who would prevent them from seeing their grandchildren. To be accused of that is upsetting and hurtful. It isn't even true!

DH reminded me that we have spoken to them a lot about DS starting pre-school, and at no point have they told us that they were prepared to continue to look after DS for 2 days a week during my maternity leave. So an impossible situation really.

I know I am banging on about this but I feel incredibly sad about it. My family live 150 miles away and I have given up a tremendous amount to live away from my former life. I really feel like throwing in the towel and moving back home. DH and I have had lots of problems over the last few years. I mentioned that he suffered from depression but he is also an alcoholic who was at his worst point during my last pregnancy and in the first 12 weeks of DS's life. My last pregnancy and maternity leave was incredible tough (as you can imagine) and I'm really proud that he has been sober now for 2 years.

My MIL accused me of causing his depression and alcoholism. I feel I cannot forgive her for that but have never talked to her about it. I tolerate her being in our home, and am perfectly pleasant and civil to her for the sake of DH and DS, but I really feel she has gone too far this time.

I have been on the edge of tears now for 2 days, and don't know what to do.

Sorry everyone, waaaaaay too much information for a Monday morning. Am off to get a coffee. Thanks for listening and I'm really sorry to off-load here. I feel like a soap-opera today, really must pull myself together.

Morning

llareggub - What a difficult situation for you. MIL relationships can be sooo difficult and although I get on well with mine, I'm sure the fact that she lives in Ireland so many miles away helps... At the end of the day I think you just need to do what you think is right for your DS and explain it to her in that way.
As for your DH, I can sympathise with your situation as my Dad has been an alcoholic for just about as long as I can remember. He is improved now after being hospitalised a few years ago, but still doesn't go a day without a drink. The fact that your DH has been sober for 2 years is just amazing.
I really hope you manage to work through all of this.

divedaisy - re: abdominal pain, I've been getting a sharp stitch like pain come and go over the last couple of months. It's always in the same place and normally appears in the morning when I wake up in bed and then gradually disappears. Not sure what it is - trapped wind has been suggested (could be?!) and someone else suggested BH but as this is DC1, I'm not sure what they feel like. My belly doesn't really go any harder and the pain isn't in waves.
I'll be interested to hear if you get any answers today and I have a consultant appointment re my thryroid tomorrow where I also get to see the obstetrician so I'll probably mention it then.
Really hope you get an answer and it improves anyway.

Right - must fly as I've got pilates at 11am!

Morning all,

Working from home for a couple of hours as I've been kicked out of my children's centre by the health visitors!! (Ok I did arrange for them to be there, but am put out that I have to leave my office for them!).

llareggub am so sorry to hear about your MIL troubles. There's nothing for me to add I don't feel, but do stick to your guns and remember you're not in the wrong. It seems that these relationships are some of the most testing in our lives. As this is our first child I am already trying to anticipate what issues we may face in the future with PILs! Am sure I'll be wrong with all I'm anticipating, but hey ho!

On a nice note, had a lovely birthday weekend with trip to see Mary Poppins at Manchester and lots of time spent with DH and my Mum. Now my birthday is done and out of the way, countdown to birth is really upon us! Got our decorator booked for the nursery - he'll hopefully start a week today. And I think (think) we've decided on a colour for the walls. A warm terracotta (it's on the B&Q colour chart if anyone's interested and wants to give me an opinion). I'm thinking some red accessories, bed covers etc. The room is north facing so doesn't get any sunshine, so want to make it as warm as possible.

Febes - eyebrow threading - I've been plucking my own eyebrows for years (quite bushy woolly boys they are), and I tend to have to pluck every day - would you recommend eyebrow threading? How often do you go? Any other eyebrow trimming advice welcome!!

ses thank you so much for sharing that. Alcohol has blighted so many lives, hasn't it? I hope your father manages to beat it one day.

Hey-ho. Still waiting for DH to come back. I'm really surprised he has gone over to talk to his parents. He avoids confrontation and his parents have controlled him for so long I really hope he manages to tell them how we feel. I really feel for him. And them too, I guess. They must really think badly of us if they think we would really stop them seeing our DS.

Off to clean the kitchen floor, very theraputic.

Afternoon ladies.

We bought baby it's carseat on Saturday, after struggling for ages with M+P to find one that would fit in our car grr lol

I'm not feeling well at all today. We went out for dinner last night and I think I've had something dodgy, so far I've had the runs twice and I feel so sicky, even though I haven't actualy been sick. This and a 3 year old is definately trying my patience. I don't know whether I can take alka Seltza or anything. And I can only get hold of a midwife on wednesdays and Thursdays, which sucks, so if anyone knows if I can take anything I'd be grateful. DP just said plenty of water, I feel so yucky. X

Sorry about your pains, febes and divedaisy, and llareggub, your situation sounds really tricky - I don't think I can say anything to help but it sounds like you are behaving really well and taking it all in your stride. Not sure I could be as mature in those circumstances!

Jael, I had the runs and threw up last Thursday morning. I couldn't think what I'd eaten that had caused it but thought it might have been because I'd eaten a lot the previous day. I find all my food takes longer to digest now and I do often feel a bit sick after eating. Have you felt like eating at all? Call your local antental ward at the nearest hospital - they'll be able to advise you. I'm not sure what you can take that'd help. Do you feel as if you'd feel better if you did throw up?
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Jael - poor you - I've got the runs too! Sore bum time! I'm back at work today after my snotty week off, and I think I've dosed myself up on so much orange juice and fruit and water that its all now coming out! Ugh! (soz - TMI!) Still not feeling the best today, so am taking it easy at the pc and not wondering around the wards (very sensible in my opinion)

llareggub - poor you with your in-laws. I do hope it gets all sorted today by your dh. Both of our parents live miles away - good 3 hour drive - so we're not confronted with those kind of hassles just yet. However, dh's parents are already feeling 'put out' that they aren't being involved in our wedding plans (October)... (my Dad is VERY KINDLY paying for the reception).... siiiigh.... I guess you can never please everyone, eh...

Still, this will make everyone laugh. Got v perturbed at lack of kemptness re ladygarden so decided to have a bit of a tidy up myself this morning. Stupid woman. Scissors slipped. Then had to walk around for 5 minutes with a tissue stuffed around all over the shop to stop the bleeding. I will never learn...

... and The Omen III is not a good film to watch when pregnant!! Still, Sam Neill was very nice as the devil... Going to be watching The Shining at the BFI in a few weeks for dp's birthday. I am completely insane..

dandy im exactly the same at the moment, im fine one minute and the next im a wreck, as i've mentioned before about my anxiety issues and panic attacks, i tend to over-think things, my mind goes into complete over-drive and i can't stop myself, generally over silly little things but more recently over big things, luckily my DP is unbelieveably supportive and helps as much as he can to put my mind at rest, when I was at my worst I had to have CBT and that taught me lots to "distract" myself from thinking too much, at the moment I'm donning the classic hair band round wrist trick, if I start to feel wobbly I ping it and it stops me thinking! Glad your pleased with your new MW, I think that will help you alot. I still cant tell how I feel about my midwife, I think its because I've seen her 4 times during the whole pregnancy, and these were rushed appointments so don't really feel like I know her, IYKWIM.

sausage I feel your pain! I have once snipped myself whilst trimming, it hurt so much but I was more concerned about what the hell I was going to say to A&E if I needed stitches!

On the subject of trimming I have a warning, as I experienced last nite, DO NOT EVER TRY TO EPILATE YOUR FANJO! It was soooooooo painfull, it seemed like a good idea at the time, but I couldn't manage it so I am now sporting a lovely bald spot! Marvelous! And a slight limp to boot!

jael I have the worlds dodgiest tummy due to my coeliac-ness, my only adivce would be to keep your fluids up and try a hot water bottle if your tummy starts to ache with it.

The weather is beautiful today! Hoorah!

Oooo does anyone want my Freedom Sling? I bought it but I dont like it, am going to try something different, Im looking for £15 inc postage, its brand new and never used,if not it'll be on ebay later today!

Thanks again everyone for taking the time to post about my PIL problems. DH didn't get very far talking to his mother. He said she seemed sheepish and reluctant to talk. I now suspect that she off-loaded onto her DH (my FIL) and he took it upon himself to talk to my DH about it. I suspect it was something she never wanted to be raised, if you see what I mean.

Anyway, she rang me to ask how DS's first day at pre-school went and I told her all about it, including the procedures for getting him in and out ready for when she picks him up and where to find his little folder of artwork. She asked if we could start again and she said that she felt a bit silly and didn't know what had come over her. I said that it be would be lovely to start again. I might ask her to come with DS and I to the park or something. Maybe we need to do things together rather than always apart.

jael and sausagemash I've suffered from the runs on and off throughout pregnancy and I'm wondering if it is one of the many joys of pregnancy! I seem to get it following periods of constipation and I'm sure my body reacts differently to food when I'm pregnant.

chocolatebunnies et al, I can't really share your pain as I have never done anything to trim my ladygarden. It is never something that I have thought of doing but as I am not particularly hairy it has never been a problem. I shall have to consider very carefully whether or not I need to start giving the matter some thought!

dandy I suspect you may be right regarding subconcious fears. It is something that DH and I have discussed and I do wonder if his parents are thinking along similar lines. But he is a very different person now to the old drinking man and he meets his AA sponsor regularly. He is determined not to drink again (or at least as they say in the AA, not today) so I am sure that we will be OK.

jennster how exciting about your homebirth! One thing I have always wondered though, is who gets to clean up? Do you have to do it?

MsG good to see you again!

I'm off now to make the most of DS's nap time. I think I hurt my back doing the floor so I am going to book a pregnancy massage at the local spa on Wednesday. I've booked a day spa for me a friend who is due to have her first baby in a couple of weeks. We met at one of the very long waits at the diabetes/pregnancy clinics so will have quite a bit to catch up on.

Have a good day everyone, hope the pains all go soon.

Llareggub,

glad to hear that your MIL wants to start afresh and its good to hear you are thinking of ways that both you and PIL get to share in DSs life.

"chocolatebunnies" - i'd be interested in the sling (might need my hands free with 2 toddlers and a LO)- what colour is it (I prefer plain to patterned).

lol trying to use these asterisks to bold words but got chocolatebunnies wrong in my last post. Need more practice.

Hello all.
Can't believe you're on a new thread already - god you lot can talk!
Haven't much time to post or read but just wanted to say hello - have had a lovely week off with DH and the kids and am struggling under a pile of catching up work this morning. Could do with a nap, but no time!
Will be back later on. x

pulapula it is the red padded freedom sling, if you google it you should be able to find the website for them, they also have an ebay shop if you wanted to look on there, I bought it from the ebay shop back in november for £26 but having got it out proplerly I dont think Im going to be able to use it, too fiddly for me lol, but obv cant return it! If you are interested my email is howdeedodee @ hotmail . co . uk

jennster im planning a homebirth too, think theres a couple of us doing it now, am looking forward to being able to plan and share my experience with you!

llare glad things are on the up with MIL, hopefully it will all work out ok, glad your DS had a good first day too!

chocolatebunnies just sent you an email (hopefully) so will wait to hear back from you.

chocolate and llarregub it's (fingers crossed) my third homebirth, and it really isn't that messy. The mws tend to clean up as they go along, and as long as you protect everything you are precious about, then it's fine.

Re nursing tops. Forgot to post last night. I've never had a nursing top either. My top tip is buy a load of really cheap cotton camisole vests from somewhere like New Look for £3 each. Buy one or two sizes up, and you just need to lift up the top you are wearing and yank down the loose vest. Your belly is covered and even if it's hot you don't over heat with 2 layers I promise. Mind we haven't had particularly warm summers have we? Anyway they do them in so many colours you could almost buy a vest per top you already have to match.

llaregubb That sounds like a lot to deal with. Hope your dh sorts things out with your pil.

Jennster - I was going to say that about vests and tops, rather than splashing out on nursing tops.

I'm planning a home birth too - when do I actually need to talk to my MW about it? It's in my notes as we discussed it briefly at the booking in appt, but I'm not seeing her again now until 34 weeks, is that too late to start making all the plans? Should I try to see her sooner? I haven't actually seen my cmw since my 17 week appt as I've seen my GP (she likes to be involved with her pregnant ladies) and the hospital mw since then.

I've only had a quick read. llareggub you're a trooper.

Well. What can I say. I have some very real problems on my plate which you might think would bring on a good cry, but guess what it was that broke out the tears last night? A re run of the episode of Dr Who where Rose gets stuck in another dimension. I tried to conceal it, tilting my head one way so DP wouldn't see the tear I was trying to facet down the side of my head. Then I had to give up because it was coming thick and fast, I started laughing and sobbing and had to tell DP "I'm crying over Dr Who!". I told him that if he ever tells anybody I will tell that he sent me a page of pictures of kittens last week. Yes, he did. This is the man I am engaged to...

Honestly though - anyone who is feeling rough and needs to vent, thats what we're all here for. Isn't it?