Due April 07 - Galloping towards Christmas and .... Third Trimester ..... Gulp!!

[CaptainDippy]

Ta Da!! Hops this is ok!!!!!!!?

Hi Hotlips welcome to the chatty buch we are!
We've just come back from scan and it's definately a baby in there! Dh thinks he saw balls and so thinks it's a boy (although we decided not to find out he couldn't help looking!) wheras I've a hunch that it might be pink, on the basis of size and just being 'different'. It doesn't matter either way for us though, as ds is lovely.
Just 'cos I'm a bit of techie, what's the transcerebellar diameter {TCD} measurement taken for? I mean, everything's within normal range - that's the furthest measurement off Normal Range and so I'm curious! (Must consult medical dictionary when I get home)
We appear to have a camera-shy bean who was wiggling away, stretching, kicking & punching my bladder (great when it's medium-full for the sonographer!) so the photos' not as good as ds's was.
Re: children falling down stairs ds luckily fell down the 3 steps to our landing quite early on and is now good and careful to hold onto the rails on the way down, mind you I have raced up the stairs to catch him 2 steps down from a full flight tumble too. We tend to use the local NHS drop-in center rather than A&E especially if it's just going to be stitches and a concussion exam.

Hi everyone, pesha, I hope you had a good birthday.
I have the afternoon off work

I must have lots of appts then. I saw the consultant at 16 weeks, I see the midwife again at 19 weeks ( next week), scan at 21 weeks, then back to the consultant at 22 weeks and they are not sure if I will need to be squeezed in to see the midwife again before christmas.

I have to say I'm also STILL feeling sick. I've had one day when I felt "normal".

Hotlips, welcome!
Pesha, glad you had a lovely birthday.
Waspelly, really pleased the scan went well.
HTH

Welcome Hotlips

Congrats on scan WaspElly. No idea about the trans.... what-you-said measurement as not really a techie. I bet you'll find someone here that is tho !

Pesha - if you've got it now and they've all had it, I'll be next!!! . Take care of yourself and hope you don't feel too crap.

thank you for your kind welcomes! Not sure I will be able to keep up the thread tho!!

I have no idea what the trans whatsit is either!!

Getting slowly towards the end of the day and then its the start of the weekend as I don't work Fridays, hooray! Am hoping to see a friend who's just had no 2 (her DS is the same age as mine) so hoping for some tips on coping with 2 LOs... Then on Sat me and DH are off to look at a Passat estate - bit gutted to be trading in the sporty coupe we have but just not practical anymore...

If I don't pop in to MN over the next days have lovely weekends 1 and all!

Welcome hotlipsmummy

Mammyjo- that mush of been awful for you. Big hug

Heidle- OMG that nearly made me lose my lunch all over he computer, did that happen today? owww

waspelly-congrats on the scan always good to know that it's a baby.

Dh is trying his hardest to piss me off at the mo has just anounced that we have to drive all the way to Liverpool this weekend, to go to a christening of some people that we hardly know.
Why he feels that he had to accept on our behalf I don't know, but apparently there is no backing out now as they have booked and paid for the hotel for us.
So great, stuck in a car for 4 hours, with my bladder and the fact that I need to eat all the time, with DD teething, this is going to be so much fun.

Am I a miserable cow, all this moaning and all?

Hi all! Been away for a course for a few days but am back now! How's everyone feeling? I haven't had chance to read the thread so am a bit lost on what the conversations have been x

18 weeks 1 day!! wohoo!

Hi, you gabby lot! And welcome to Hotlips.

Anyone feeling less bonded to this bean than the last? Those of you whose first this isn't (she says, inelegantly), that is. I would be absolutely devastated if anything went wrong, not least because this really is my last chance at another child and a sibling for DS, but on an individual level I don't feel as bonded with this particular bean as I was the last time. Mind you, that proved to be an illusion, as the baby who arrived was somehow entirely different from my imaginings, and just - himself. Bonded right away, yet that didn't seem to have a lot to do with my pregnancy bonding, so maybe I'm worrying over nothing. Probably my residual guilt re how DS will feel when the baby is born is part of it. I'm very much looking forward to my scan on Dec 5th, though, not least because I want to know what flavour we're having. I'll be gutted if it's an awkward bean and won't show us...
17+4 Whizzing by

1becomes3 - no you are not! Why do some men simply not THINK??? That can easily be experienced by us as aggression, IMO, and I'm not at all sure that's an overreaction. Grrr on your behalf

Not a techie here but I think the transcerebellar thingie MAY have something to do with spina bifida - the cerebellum can develop abnormally with spina bifida. This is only a hunch mind you, am not 100% certain but I remember it was the most "off" measurement when we had the detailed scan with dd, too.

Bugmum I know what you mean! I'm nowhere near as "obsessed" with this pg as I was last time. And can't believe how far gone I am already - but I guess I'm much busier now juggling work and DS.
I also had a bit of a shock once DS arrived (esp as BF was the most painful thing ever until it settled down eventually - far worse than labour, sorry first timers!!) but that said I think he is the most wonderful boy ever (embarassingly I can be a bit of a "proud mummy" yuck!) and can't imagine that intense feeling for another bean once he/she arrives!
Am also experiencing the guilt pangs as DS has been the centre of his universe - only grandchild on both sides and v. spoilt by doting grannies. Still will be good for him to have a sibling! Bugmum - how old is your DS?

Bugmum I understand what you mean, with my last pg I was obsessed with every little thing, I would read the book each week to see what was going on with bump, this time not so much, I think it is because I have been through it all before (not twins though.)
It is still early stage and hasn't begun to drag out yet. There is not really any thing that different apart from there being 2 beans.
I feel very bad for DD as 2 babies are gonna take up all my time and I don't want her to feel left out.
I am sure when this bean pops out it will be love at first sight, it's hard to bond with something you can't see, and that will as you know from experience will be giving you all sorts of hassel for the rest of your pg.
Don't feel bad or worry about it. hugs.

Hello all, long time no speak (have just been lurking). Welcome to all the lovely new ladies.

1B3 and everyone else who're having a moan about their DHs/DPs - I totally bloomin' well sympathise. Mine seems to have forgotten I'm even pregnant and is making absolutely no concessions to the fact that I am. In fact he's just being a bit of a grumpy git right now, which is pretty unfair of him as his grumpy moods just rub straight off on me. This week he's worked late 2 nights, is off rugby training tonight, staying away tomorrow night at an army do (men only, yuk) and then when he gets back on Saturday he 'might' decide to go and play rugby. Grrr grrr grrr - anyone would think he was avoiding me . He came in late from work last night and came to bed at 10.30 and proceeded to read the bloody paper - not only is that noisy, but it also involves having the light on, so I asked him to turn the light off and he moans he hasn't had time to 'unwind' - well go and f'ing unwind somewhere else, because I'm knackered!
Ha feels good to rant!
Other than that I'm feeling surprisingly well (apart from odd bit of feeling nauseous in the morning) - am feeling quite chipper really and am actually looking forward to the birth! I must be blooming and the happy hormones have kicked in!

Bugmum - IKWYM about bonding with beans. This is number 3 for me and a first girl. I don't feel so much "unbonded" (is that a word?) but more relaxed about the whole thing really. Doesn't help that I can hardly feel her move btw! Looking forward to it and not at all worried on DS2's behalf. I think (hope, cos there was a huge gap with the last 2) that the kind of attention DS2 and pink bean will need is so different that there shouldn't be too much of a problem. DS2 is also very close to his dad and his big brother so he has lots of people around to give him love and attention. I know that when she comes along we will bond in our own way.

Hi Emmymummy. Bloody, bloody men, eh? I use the time when my DH is away to eat more junk without getting told off !!

LOL GGF - I do the same!

Oh emmymummy, I loved your rant! Sorry to hear your dh is being a pain. As I said before, mine seems to be overlooking the fact I am pg, knackered etc. and carrying on as normal. I don't want to be treated as an invalid, but it would be nice once in a while for him to make a cup of tea - and not bloody me! I feel like I am doing EVERYTHING!
I have another headache as well which is a bummer - feel ok apart from that.kjjhu Blooming cat has just walked over the laptop!
Anyway, need to sort the cats out with some teat - if I am not feeding me, dh or child, it it the blinking cats!!
See you later.xx

SOL - you're giving your cats teat? Lucky cats!!!

Oh blimey!! What a typo to make - it is this laptop!!

SOL - teat?! Are you breast feeding your cats? And the whole family by sounds of it - good on you, tis so much better than cows milk for them!!
BTW, did you see the programme on extended b/fing? I'm not going to restart the whole debate but that couple talking about the husband regularly having a feed just grossed me out. A little try or an accidental mouthful whilst doing 'other' things, ok, but the way they were talking was just...yuck !

I'm still being sick every morning which is ok but body seems to be getting a bit tired from it and insides struggling and its becoming hard work IYKWIM, sorry if TMI, anyone else experiencing this?

And I too do not really feel bonded with this baby, I'm liking my bump, excited bout the scan and birth and things but dont really feel connected with it like i did before. And every now and then I've had a sort of defensive feeling, its hard to describe cos its a feeling rather than a conscious thought but its kind of a defensiveness like ive got my family with my 2 kids and me and dp getting on better than ever and who is this baby coming along trying to join it. Which is ridiculous cos I really want this baby and im sure it'll be fine, both dcs are excited about it so is dp and so am i. I never felt like this when pg with ds but i think its cos im more settled than before so there is something more solid for it to fit in with whereas before i was all over the place so it didnt really matter. But im feeling like this less and less so was prob just me adjusting to the idea.

And congrats on your scan waspelly, glad it all went ok.

And congrats on your scan waspelly, glad it all went ok.

hello everyone, and I hope you're recovered from the shock Mammyjo.
We had our scan this morning - didn't ask the sex, and weren't told (dh 'agreed' with me in the end over this!) All seems well, although it still has a HUGE head! Most measurements are average-ish, but the head is right up at the very top of what they consider 'normal'. 'That'll be painful then' says dear dear dh... I have to have another scan at 28 weeks so they can check that the placenta has moved upwards - currently a bit low.
How is everyone else, how are the bumps, are people feeling wriggles yet?

Thanks for the responses, ladies

And Hotlips - my DS will be about 27 months when the new baby is born, so really he's still quite little (not 22 months yet), and he isn't really verbal (although understands a good deal), so I can't see him being able to express even in a rudimentary way how he is feeling when I tell him about the baby. Not sure when I'll do this yet; much as he does understand, I don't think under-twos really understand anything in advance about a new baby, and they go through the motions to please you, IYSWIM. Or mine probably would, anyway, so I might leave telling him for a bit

Hello Maveta and Hotlips - a big welcome to you both (I guess I should say 'welcome back' to you Maveta!).

Smole - sorry about the continual ms....that is awful and must be getting a bit demoralizing. Hope you feel a lot better soon.

to everyone with dh/dp probs. SOL - can't agree more: we don't want to be treated like invalids but some consideration and TLC go a long way to making us feel better and improving relationships!

GGF: glad you got to hear the heartbeat and that your midwives are so lovely. I've read that some people don't feel movement til even 22 weeks. I'm almost 19 and still not sure if I'm feeling movement or not. Keep thinking maybe I have an anterior placenta or something (learned about that on here from one of you - thanks!).

WestCLass - your scan sounded lovely. And RH, too, with your DS taking it all in! Congrats to everyone else on the good scans

Liath - thanks for the comments on 'body image issues.' I think what you said is very true for many of us.

I have to be fair and say that my dh is still being wonderful. I think partly because it is our first and we are enchanted. Also we both really wanted kids and he is 37 (I'm a mere 30...we just married about a year ago) so I think we are just feeling blessed to have found one another and to have a baby on the way.

Hope all with colds get over them soon. Mine has almost passed but I'm still coughing up junk (tmi!).