Due June 2007... the new thread!

[NattyandThomasandBump]

got sick of how long it took my poor computer to load that mammouth page so i have started a new one!

oh and can i stay?

hello all, it has been ages since I posted, but after a very stressful 24 hours I feel the need! Last night on my way home from work I felt a 'gush' which turned out to be blood. After driving home like a crazed mad thing, DH took me to A&E. Basically they were concerned but were going to send me home until this morning when I could have a scan at the epu. Anyway, not wanting to go home and face what might happen, we kicked up a bit of a fuss and I was eventually scanned last night. Baby looked fine and no cause found for the bleed. I was still referred to the epu this morning as the bleeding was continuing. This morning baby still looked fine- infact it wouldn't stay still long enough to be measured Now I am resting and hoping that the bleeding will stop soon- it is very worrying despite the people at the epu saying that miscarriage is very unlikely now. (I'm 14 weeks)

sorry for the long post- felt the need to share!

Hi All,

Got blood test results back this morning after anxious almost 2 week wait - anyway says baby at low risk of Down's . However still have to go for another blood test on 19th to check for likelihood of spina bifida. After that got no more scans or tests. Thought everyone got a 20 week scan but obviously not, apparently the one at 12 weeks was it. Am bit disappointed cos was looking forward to seeing more detail & hopefully finding out sex. Also DH was o/s so has seen no sign of our LO. Am wondering about private scan - is it hideously expensive, anyone know?

Still have only told the parents so far - is anyone else playing it safe or have you all blurted out the news already? I keep thinking, once I know everything is alright, but realistically, when will that be?

Hi tallulah. I had a private scan, at a Nuffield Hospital: it was £200. However I think that is on the expensive side, and BUPA for example is cheaper.

I didn't want to tell anyone yet but my hand was forced, thanks to dh, who sings like a canary at the slightest secret.

evening guys
dont be jealous spudnik... i am one of the furtherest ahead on here being due on 1st june (by my dates) and 28th may (by scan dates) will be going by mine as i know conception date so i am likely to be one of the first! plus is second baby and you feel movements earlier with second preg.
anyway how is everyone! i am STILL not booked in at the hospital, havent had any blood tests done, or check ups except one scan at 12 weeks! this is due to crap docs surgery and not me may i add! i phoned to chase it up today and was told they would call me back, however they didnt! so will be phoning monday and getting quite angry with them. 16 weeks and no check ups, and still not booked in at a hospital. grrrr.....

rant over!

love to all

N&T&B

£200! Think DH will have to make do with scan photo .

Things here fine, finally given in and got my mat jeans out, bit on the big side but normal ones were just catching in the wrong place. Think I look more obviously pg in them rather than chunky like I did in my other ones!

Twinkle5 so sory to hear about your scare, must have horrible. Glad that things were ok though and hope thiscontinues to be the case - are they going to do any further scans to help set your mind at rest?

Tallulahbelle, not sure where abouts in the country you are but it's poss to get scans from around £150 and a basic 4d scan option if you fancied from £95, although this wouldn't cover the measuring aspect. Here's a starting point webwise scans We get a 20 wk scan here but are seriously thinking about treating ourselves to a 4d private scan too, they look amazing!

morning guys! tom slept till 9 this morning so feeling quite perky!
i tell you what through my boobs are driving me mad this week, i bought 2 36DD bras from mothercare and they are still too small.... so need to return them and get a bigger size. considering i was a 32B to start with this is somewhat of a shock, DP has said it almost makes up for the moodswings!

hope everyones weekend has been good. love to all

N&T&B

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Thanks Ingalls. I am in Glasgow - will check that out.

N&T&B
Still in my 34A, anxiously checking each day for improvement but just not happening. Expanding everywhere else though but think that's to do with all the face-stuffing!

also very ... tried to convince myself I needed upgrading and even went to M&S for measuring and was soo, soo embarrassing. I don't even fill my usual 36A properly . It's just a reminder of those terrible teenage years when I dreaded a male touching me for fear he'd discover the ironing-board flatness below...

living in hope...

Hi all

Went for my scan on friday. TBH I was dreading it, thinking that I might throw up, which is mostly how I feel at the moment when I think about something growing inside me. he goo news is I didn't! But I didn't get all gooey, or sigh, or cry. It was just like 'Oh, there's baby shaped thing'. Didn't hep that my mum who knows how sensitive i've been feeling said 'did you bond with it?' immediately afterwards, so we had a big fight coz when I asked not to say that or mention the fact that I'm hormonal (the last thing you want to hear when you are hormonal) she went into this big rant about how I made her feel bad now and I can't expect her to walk on eggshells around me etc. basically all about her!
Didn't help that the sonographer barely interacted with us and made it seem like it was a chore, she was just like 'there's the baby' not there's it's heart, look there's it's hands etc. Then just dumped a load of tissue on my belly and left me!
Sorry to have yet another long rant about how misrable I'm finding pregnancy. My biggest worry is that my mum had PND with all 3 kids, and despite expecting to feel all maternal and beatific and lovely I feel like crap and can't cope with thinking about the baby and all the stuff we need to get. I'm worried I'm not going to bond with it. I know you can't expect to right now, but I'm worried I'm abnormal and going to be a bad mother. Plus everyone knows how I'm feeling (I'm not one to suffer in silence!) and they are all going to remember how badly I dealt with being pregnant when I want them to think I am strong and going to be a good mum. [Sigh] I'm a victim of my own high expections. That's what happens when you have a Masters in Psychology, you can never have normal emotions again! Help me!

my goodness i WISH i had no boobs! my back is killing me already, they bang together if i dont wear a bra 24/7 and it really hurts when they do that! talula and lil you can share with me... theres plenty to go round.

dont worry about bonding bump.. i didnt bond with DS all the way through preg until he was about 5 months old. dont worry about not feeling the maternal rush, you may feel the odd moment here and there but at the end of the day you are only human, its gonna take time

hope everyone is ok and that this thread picks up soon all the others get far more posts than this one at the moment lol.

lots of love to everyone

N&T&B

Ladies & bumps, good morning!

Bumper, I really feel for you. ((((HUGS)))) With my first pg (not long ago...) I was also feeling rather hateful and horrible about the whole thing. Feeling like an alien had taken over my body and nobody understood the agony of it all...I would say, talk to your GP about your feelings. Hormonal is normal, yes, but to feel so desperately down about it all might mean that you need more help & support. I was diagnosed with pre-natal depression. yes, it exists and it's one of those things that is really common but nobody talks about!!! A small dose of meds later and I felt able to cope again. It doesn't solve all the problems but it helps you think about things a bit more calmly. Take good care above all & we're here if you need us.

Just remembered, last year, I wanted to tear the TV down because Katie Holmes was interviewed all glowing and saying 'oooh, I just feel so wonderful and pg is the best thing ever....'

N&T&B, would love, love, love some more cushion up front. Pls send via express mail delivery !!!

Had a fab, fab weekend with my LO handed off to babysitters 2 nights in a row! Bliss!

Hello all!

Bumperlicious, really don't worry. I had a friend who was pregnant a couple of years ago and was so sure she didn't want it she was considering an abortion (it was complicated, with the wrong guy, wrong time, unexpected, etc etc). She now has the most gorgeous daughter who she couldn't live without. Just go easy on yourself and don't expect too much; this is a huge deal and of course you need time to come to terms with it. Just take it step by step - try not to think too far ahead, although I know it isn't easy.
Tallulabelle, I'm having a private scan in a couple of weeks (just for my own reassurance) - it's in Harley Street and it's £100, so I think any more than that really is way too much.
Twinkle, am thinking of you - had another friend who bled loads when she was about 14 weeks; assumed it was game over, but everything was absolutely fine and she now has twin boys. Hope everything is okay and rest sounds like best idea. I'm sure chocolate helps, too.

Bumper - I am still feeling a lot like you - at my scan a couple of weeks ago, I didn't feel anything either, I just thought 'oh, a weird looking blob with a heartbeat inside me, how very odd'. I went to my GP and she told me to up my anti-depressant dose (I've been on them for years, checked they are safe for pg, etc) as she thought the hormones had caused a depression attack. I have felt better since, but still am light years away from bonding. I am reading everyone's words of support for you on here and gaining a lot of hope.

My mum, family and dh are all so happy and excited that, like you, it makes me feel worse. The way I have calmed them down is to say how physically ill I feel, and excuse my depression on to that. Dh is very sympathetic but my mum would a) worry I was harming the baby with ADs and, like yours, b) bleat on about hormones.

Anyhow, please don't suffer in silence, come on here and vent!

Hello everyone

Had my scan this morning - all seems well. Celebrated afterwards by treating myself to 2 new non-wired bras...so I am now free from boob agony Gonna have to start wearing a bra in bed - talk about 'twin peaks' when I wake up! S'pose since they've been through b-fing before, they're gearing up early to do it all again (gulp!)

Had a weird weekend - loads of sleeping and eating. My appetite is bonkers; just can't seem to fill myself. Will be moving into maternity clothes soon, I reckon.

Hope you're all well xx.

Just want to toss in, I took Prozac when pg with my LO and he's absolutely fine and there seems to be no proven link between AD's and trouble later on. In face if anything my wee boy is the most cheerful of all his mates so how bad can it be? Seriously, I really feel for you ladies who are having a hard time of it. In May or June or whenever it's all over, you'll probably wonder why you were so worried.

(excuse me, time to hunt for more food to eat)

Thanks everyone, I really appreciate the words of support. With the whole pregnancy thing it's hard to separate out what is just down to being pg and what, if anything, is really wrong. Fortunately I have a v supportive DH, and a mother who should know better! And I am sharing how I feel with well pretty much everyone (people will learn not to ask if I'm ok!) so at least I'm not going to go quietly mad. If I don't feel better after Christmas I think I will have a chat with the Dr. We are trying to book a holiday to Marrakech in February but I'm thant knacked off I can't even cope with thinking about a holiday - now that tells me something is definitely wrong!
Doggus I'm sorry you are feeling this way too, but kinda relieved I'm not on my own. Thanks guys, hopefully I'll perk up soon!

Hi all...can i join?!

I am pregnant with my first and due on the 1st/4th June depending on who you ask. Midwife told me the 1st and dating scan the 4th, but they were unwilling to change my 'official EDD' as its within the magic 5 days.

We had a wobbly and very stressful first few weeks, but the nauseau appears to have stopped ( fingers crossed) and now only feeling completely knackered once a day!! My waistline is growing rapidly...cant wait till i look pregnant rather than that I've put weight on!

Orchidex

Hi All- it's been nearly a month since I posted, (problems logging in) with belated heartfelt comiserations for TaichiMum and Marylou for their losses..Welcome to all the newbies and congrats to all those with successful scans- I had a (private) nuchal scan nearly 3 weeks ago and was a "low" risk for chromosonal abnormalities, inc Downs Syndrome. So that is a relief ! ( especially at my age -43) The consultant said that there was no need for futher screening, inc the triple test. In fact the little ( jumping ) bean looked so lively, (pumping its arms/legs furiously) I am sure that's why I can even now ( and even I think, as early as 10 weeks ) feel little "taps" down below - God help me if this one is even more lively than my DS ( 3)- no wonder I am so tired all the time! Sickness also on the wain - but still there-every 3/4 days, just to surprise me! Plus raging heartburn/indigestion inbetween the sick days just to keep reminding me that this stage isn't done with yet ( or may be it won't but go to full term, yuk!).

Ah well roll on the 20wk scan - I am taking little one with me to look at his little brother or sister -they won't tell you the sex at our hospital , so I might have to go for another private scan ( poss 3d) to find out if I need to save DS clothes or not! x

evening guys.
goodness me i have felt so rough today, i cant believe that im putting myself though this so soon after tom. read an article about B12 today, thinking that it may be behind the extreme tireness.

how is everyone else? i tell you what is ONE MORE PERSON responds to this pregnancy by saying "your keen!" i will hit them, hit them hard with a wet fish!

god i am so tired but i cant sleep. dont get me wrong i really want this baby, and normally i hate to complain but this evening i just feel so emotional, i dont know how my body is going to cope with 2 pregnancys in 2 years?

okay i feel a little better wipesscreen ive had my blub, dont you just love hormones...

my boobs feel a little better today, must have slept on them funny the other day, maybe made them swell.

well nighty night.

love to all

N&T&B

Hello Orchide and welcome aboard!!

N&T&B, let's start thinking of clever things to say when people come up with those "ooh, that's a small gap, isn't it" comments. Cuz I get them too! (My DS is 9mo today). I phoned up the NCT to sign up for 'refresher' course [that is, chance to meet other mums facing perhaps 2 under 2 as well]. The lady who answered found I was still on the records from last year. She said, "oh! well, that was quick wasn't it?!? And how do you feel about that?" Like, what does she expect me to say? It was an accident? GAHHHHH

Ok back now, sorry. Yes, hormonal as well, nice to meet you...

Hi all.

I'm with u N&T&B and Lildrummer - also have very small gap (DD now 6 months!). Had the pleasure of starting back at work last week, so think it was the source of amusement that they all knew I was having another!

"So how did that happen...?" - obviously some of my collegues didn't study much biology at school! And then everyone wants to inform me how much work it will be with 2 so close.

Anyway let me know if you think of any smart comments...!

I think you should tell them that it's all part of your master plan for families and that you plan to have one a year until you've got a football team....that'll shut them up!!

14+2 today and expanding rapidly...but haven't put on an ounce of extra weight yet. Probably due to the fact that although the ms has pretty much cleared up, ie no more sickness or nausea, I can't face a whole meal and have gone off meat completely. I'm all right with things like spag bol or chilli or soups, but DH did roast chicken on Sunday and I had one wee drumstick and that was enough. I get about halfway through any meal and lose interest. Don't know how I'm going to face Christmas dinner and not sure it's good for the bean to be fed on soup, banana sarnies and chocolate for the duration....mind you if the soup contains the required amount of veggies and protein then where's the harm?
Boobs are huge, but tenderness has all but disappeared...wey hey. Liking the fact that they have regained their former (pre DS) gravity defying state and don't disappear under my armpits when I lie down any more. Wish they could market a pill that has the same effect...
Felt a few flutterings which feel like 'quickening' but can it be this early? I know you feel it earlier second time around, but surely not at 14 weeks? I suppose a few more weeks and I'll know for sure.
NT&B...when did you feel the first..you're only about a week ahead of me aren't you?
good to hear from you again btw..did wonder where you were..you too Cocobear

Welcome Orchide, and hope you are well. Lucky you not looking pg yet...I look like I'm about six months rather than three and a half. At this rate I'll be the size of a house soon

Boob rant... bought two new bras in S Africa (fromm 36A to 38C in just a few weeks!), but now they're already too small! Have also realised that after a gap of 3 years, I've 'lent' most of my maternity gear to friends and family, and now must attempt to retrieve it. Or get their good stuff instead.

lol, yes i have lent out all of mine and theres only a tiny gap.

heres something to make you giggle, an old lady was doing the "gosh thats a small gap" rountine, so i told her it wasnt my fault and that my partners sperm was very concentrated... that he only has to shake hands with you and pop! she turned bright red and stopped talking to me. not that i minded as i was pissing myself laughing for the rest of the journey!

had a huge arguement this morning, as DP tried to conjole me into sex during toms (and my) precious half an hour morning nap. i told him that is he took tom downstairs when he woke from his nap so i could grab a couple of winks then he could do whatever he liked to me.
he agreed and when tom woke took him downstairs. however i then heard him on the phone complaining about how im always SLEEPING!! and that the house was a tip. OMG i lost it. lost it lost it lost it!

well he felt very sorry and offered to look after tom so i could catch up with the washing, and is taking him out tomorrow on his day off so i can get some sleep. might lose it with him more often

daisy bump, im 16+1 today, flet movement last thursday and friday, however have felt nothing since, so putting it down to misinterpreted trapped wind maybe...

how is everyone today, this thread is getting rather slow, im lonely here! not only am i the only one of my friends with a baby, but now im the only pregnant one. poor natty "listens for sympathetic noises from fellow MN's"

love to all'

N&T&B