20th JSing GRADS thread - our chat's still filthy, just not in front of the baby...

[LaLa5]

Welcome, welcome, welcome to the 20th grads thread... celebrating the success of Just Shagging in getting us viroids upduffed!

For those that don't know, a 'viroid' is from the original JSing thread 1, where someone was trying to type ladies (in reference to all the JSing ladies), but their phone decided to call us all viroids instead!

The name stuck and we've been the JSing viroids ever since.

The thread we have graduated from is here in its 37th outing. WARNING: they're all a bit kerazy not to mention randy!

There is also a Just Mumming thread in postnatal clubs here for once your babies come along, or to keep up with the graduated graduates! It's a bit quiet at the moment, but with all these upduffed viroids hopefully it won't be for long!

There is also a private facebook group (so it doesn't give the game away in your news feed!)... if you want to join to see photos of new babies etc, just ask in-thread!

So, roll call below please, viroids!

This time, just before christmas DC2 said
"You need to find a donkey to ride, because every woman who has a baby in their tummy needs one, it says in my Mary and Joseph book! "
So I used the quote as my status, don't think everybody got it though, people keep telling me that I've lost weight, and are in complete shock when I tell them DC 4 is on the way and I'm nearly half way there!
We didn't announce the other 3 officially on FB either. Its a personal thing, DH usually does the birth announcement within hours with name and weight.
(I hope that I haven't let the cat out of the bag, and someone I know finds me!)

That's a fab way to do it cym big cryptic so need people to think about it a bit!

I imagine we will do a birth one. Did the same with wedding - announced married on the day but not engaged.

My cats do that la but at the ceiling - creepy!

la worst case scenario they think your daft, then what?

I think many of you ladies wouldn't have thought twice about announcement on fb if you hadn't been on MN and encountered unfortunate stories like mine. you'd have just posted them none the wiser, so don't worry about it. we all know its not the fb announcement that upsets us when ttc, it's the fact its not us, so it doesn't really matter how that person had told us, we'd still have got upset. then there are those who aren't great fans of fb anyway. my sil posts so much shit about her kids on fb, is "oh its 3am and I'm doing the night feed" bully for you but she didn't announce either pg on there from what I remember

La it was the Pioneer not the Wayfarer. My parents will buy it or most of it fortunately. They bought my brother and sisters. I imagine the in laws will help out too

I'm still here :). Waiting to see doctors again, but I've been told I'm not allowed to do any more injections before I see them, so am somewhat concerned they're gonna steroid me, which would probably mean insulin/glucose drip too! We'll see I guess! Am becoming more resigned to her being really early, that way any extra days are like a bonus

Oh Zyla you're in the best place lovie, keeping everything crossed for you

OMG the steroid injections hurt so bad! Just to warn you zyla I have forgotten all the contraction pain aside from the fact that they hurt (I can't picture it just remember I was in pain) but I can still picture the pain of the blooming steriods

oh lil don't touch the red Eisberg, the white and rose are alright though, I've discovered quite a taste for them!

blimey zyla that's all a bit dramatic!! Just remember they wouldn't be considering taking baby out earlier than previously planned if they weren't confident that if was safer for you both, you've brought baby this far, you've done your bit, so sit back, rest and let the docs do theirs, before the home straight starts.

welcome stoat!!

la I think with regards to FB it's a personal discussion and there's no right or wrong answer, we've got friends who keep us up to date one very little movement, and every mile stone, and then we've got friends who's kids don't exist as far as the Facebook world is concerned, and everything in between. Announcing it was the right thing for you.

The general area of my bottom left ribs is throbbing painfully and has been most of the day, I really struggled to get through work today as the pain is making me dizzy :S Paracetamol isn't touching it and a hot water bottle is barely dulling the pain, if I didn't know any better I'd think I'd broken something... but I know I'm a wimp and when I broke my finger it hurt so much I was being sick so I'm almost certain that my ribs aren't broken

DD fell down the stairs today because despite our house being a stairgate maze the stairgates do nothing if people fail to close them!! She's seemingly fine but I'm a bit cross, as I've spent months now squawking 'hold onto the banister' every time I see her by the stairs, she should know to hold on and the 3 grown ups who were in the house at the time should know to keep the gates closed, I can only think that she didn't hold on because she was in such a hurry to get from one grown up to another before either caught her on the stairs and told her off for being on them...

In brighter news my (potentially entirely full of woo woo and wishful thinking) Homeopathy for childbirth kit has arrived and it is so cute!

found you! Thanks for new fred la

Just looking at stats and there are more people after me than before me now shits self only by one mind, but still...
Treated myself to a facial this afternoon, my skin is like sandpaper at the moment and I am going through litres of night cream trying to fix it. Went and saw my DM who exclaimed I was now 'BIG" (fanks a lot)

I've got to do penance at MiL's tomorrow. I had a wave of (Surprising) guilt after bitching talking to my mum about her earlier and my mum thinks I'm being a bit harsh, and now I feel terrible for her 'Expressing her excitement in her own way' (not my expression..) I'll be repeating this over and over again tomorrow afternoon while she's ramming advice and furniture down my throat. .

We're going to go with a Cosatto Giggle 2 I think (Not the ones that self collapse and were all over watchdog) - it's a good price, the warranty is good and I adore all the garish colors and patterns. I love the SC Surf, but I can't afford that AND a Snuzpod, and I really really want one.

Good luck Tee, hope you escape from MIL's unscathed .

Boo, do you mean pain at the front? I had this, was so annoying. I found stretching backwards helped and trying to stand/sit with proper posture to get some more space. Although maybe you've pulled a muscle or something?

Lil I feel like you've given me a bit of a lightbulb moment. I always worry about what people think of me and you're so right, it doesn't really matter.

I know Dulcet. Will will swoop in at the end and get all the best ones. Ricky on the other hand turns for any old busker.

£200 of argos vouchers La?!

I've got morning sickness. At 11.07

wil I am the opposite of someone with anxiety - I'll strike up a conversation with anyone, anywhere. dh is the total opposite. obviously I care about giving a good impression and being appropriate in given situations etc but I've just never really let what other people think stop me from being me. that's not to say it always works out in my favour, but I figure if people don't like it they're not worthy of my time anyway so why would I care what they thought! imo its a good way to be, I certainly don't envy dhs insecurities and I worry about him getting so caught up in little things that to me aren't a problem. but I also understand the way he feels and can relate because if times where I have been depressed and felt those feelings. I find it fascinating how our minds can all perceive thongs so differently.

sorry went off on one there!

boo, now you tell me! although they said the white was worse. I am normally a white drinker so maybe that would be better to me.

Zyla you're in the best place and like the others said they won't bring her early if they didn't think it would be ok. I hope you're comfortable and dh has brought you lots to read xx

Boo is mini boo ok? I'd be annoyed too if 3 adults in house and people not closing gates. Have you seen gp about your pain?

Tee I know how you feel about mil. Mine makes me bristle and I have to remind myself all the time that she means well.

Lil - I'm very sociable, very open, will talk to anyone, outspoken, generally first one to make people laugh, suggest an adventure, known for calling a spade a spade and not suffering fools (particularly at work!). But I have triggers that set off my anxiety and in certain situations I'll then replay actions or conversations and start to panic afterwards that I've made wrong choice. It's generally concern that I've upset people, or lost peoples respect, rather than that people are laughing at me. It's odd and it's exacerbated if I drink as then it's worse because I might not be able to remember what I said properly. My other triggers are money and career related so less about people. The day after drinking heavily is always hell because I torture myself about things I may or may not have said, so I try not to drink heavily.

So the Facebook thing you're right - I was worried it was insensitive and that after my mc I should've been more considerate. But whenever I do speak to anyone new about my pg I make sure they know it wasn't plain sailing and we had a rocky time getting there so they know they can talk to me if they have similar issues.

I can normally deal with anxiety with CBT but drinking makes me spiral. I really shouldn't drink but I love wine!

I miss wine...

I miss wine too :(

No steroids as yet, which is good. They just banned me from my night time injection to make sure I didn't have hypos during the night, so unsurprisingly my sugars are high this morning! I do have to say, the midwives on the ward are all absolutely lovely though!

I'll see what the docs says bout my blood results before lunch, but I'm (quietly) feeling a little more optimistic about it this morning, a few hours sleep helped, despite being woken every hour or two to measure blood pressure or sugars!

Cripes sorry grads. I've been mia!
Must try harder...

I miss wine too - it was a real pleasure to enjoy a glass with dinner. Now even when I've allowed myself a tiny bit, it hasn't tasted right. Maybe in a few weeks it'll be better. I may have found an amazing product though - alcohol-free kreik (cherry beer)! Problem is, the only shop that sells it is right by the European Parliament, and the area is swimming with troops

Boo, hope miniboo is OK.

Zyla hopefully things will settle for you - but in all honesty sometimes babies are better out than in...nothing you're doing wrong, it's just how it is sometimes. You've cooked her well so far, but pregnancy itself can cause lots of problems, for mum and baby! If I remember correctly, you're where I used to work, so if you want to ask about the unit, feel free to. (It's fabulous) Glad you've got a good set of MWs :)

La I'm similar with my occasional ruminations, especially about things I've said or not. I'm much better in a smaller group of people I know well.

I miss wine too. But the end is nigh for me at least. I am loving all this new 'it's ok to drink when bf' advice .

Sorry Boo, meant to ask how MiniBoo was. My toddler did that last year and it was horrible to watch. I was standing right next to her but just couldn't stop it.

Ah 'The Fear La. I don't really drink much anymore but used to get it so bad the day after. Most of my friends did too though clearly we did far too many things worthy of regret.

I keep having an evening meltdown. I am properly crapping myself about labour. I really think in this case ignorance is bliss.

Where's this amazing wine drinking bf advice? I need to read it! I'm too scared to drink anything at the moment in case it passes over and ends up in a tiny liver. I hadn't been bothered before now bit for some reason I can't stop thinking about a crisp Sauvignon!

Had to eat some biscuits during the night, my ms seems to have returned at 15 weeks

Never really been into wine and not much of a drinker so haven't missed it really. Not missed much I can't have except maybe tuna but that's because I want it all the time! We need to work on an MN/JS non-alcoholic wine that tastes as good as the real stuff.

chat, explain the troops thing? Why can't you buy beer with them there?

Hey min, you ok?!

boo, I thought that about Rita last week - turned for any old singer - but she didn't so much this week. If Tom
Jones turns around for you it's got to be hard to go with any of the others! Hope the little boo is ok too, hopefully that's enough to make sure the gates get closed from now on!

Glad you're feeling more optimistic zyla, must be knackered being up every hour though! Fx for good news today!

lil, can you bottle that stuff and sell it to us? We can put it in the wine! I really struggle with what others think but it's weird because I know I do and still do it! I am pretty outgoing, love giving presentations for example and do chat to anyone (a trait from my Grandad!) but I still worry. All needs to stop now though as baby means I can't care what others think so much - it's all about the family!

I'd love to have biscuits in my bedroom right now.

I don't think there is new advice really - just that you don't have to 'pump and dump' as they used to advise as alcohol leaves your milk at the same rate it leaves your bloodstream. I think therefore I would feel ok having a glass of wine if I wasn't going to feed for an hour or so afterwards.

MiniBoo is fine this morning minus a hurty arm and the appetite of an entire army!

My GP has a 4 week wait tries to control the rage but I'll speak to the consultant when I go for my scan on Thursday. Will cry a bit if he says I should go to physio as I've been desperately avoiding it.

lil I actually like the white Eisberg more than normal white, it's not too dry and a little sweet.

83 days till D-Day! Trying not to panic about being unprepared. Really need to phone up about antenatal classes and dig out the natal hypnotherapy cd's.

boo I hope mini boo is okay!

zyla I'm glad you're feeling more optimistic! Like others say you are in the best place!

Wedding fair today DD has D&V though so I'm leaving her home with DP. I'm normally the main care giver with sick kids so it will be weird, but at least there will be less chance of me catching it!

Ooh enjoy Lauren.

Why are you avoiding physio Boo?

Oooh chat really? Qmc in nottingham? (I'd say I'm outing myself, but I'm sure anyone who knows me could spot me a mile off anyways lol)

Have fun Lauren!! Do you have a date for your wedding yet?

I posted this accidentally on js thread - I'm going to meet a pg friend for coffee then me and dh are going to mothercare to look at stuff for the first time. He's finally agreed to go so I'm quite excited