November 2011 - more hand holding, scans and 2nd trimester chat coming up.....

[Katiebeau]

New thread chatty girls.......

Why oh why do we end up with such random things happening to our bodies? Last night I lent up to get something off a shelf in the kitchen (literally going on tip toes 2-3 inches, no more) and my calf muscle went into spasm. I couldn't move for nearly ten minutes, and it's still hurting more than a day later. I had to shout to DH upstairs to help me cook dinner.

So I get the book out and it turns out that leg cramps are yet another thing that happens and nobody really knows why. Need?

And I love the idea of the Rocky music. My vote's for Chariots of Fire

PamSco are you Edinburgh? I'm just over the water in Fife but we lived in the city til DS was 6 months old and I had him at the Simpson! The best thing I ever did in Edinburgh when I was pregnant was sign up to classes at the Pregnancy and Parents centre. Oh my goodness It is such a haven. Wonderful place. We're so lucky to have it as there's nothing really like it anywhere else in the country, its a charity run by mums and they do cheap but very good pregnancy yoga, baby yoga, baby massage, baby music, home birth workshops, doulas, post birth counselling, birth pool hire, they have a great maternity library, nearly new sales and host meetings for new bewildered mums. The lady who runs it Nadine is just so lovely and does the best meditation techniques I've ever done. And because biscuits, tea and a good blether are standard for all yoga classes it was how I ended up meeting my lovely new mum friends. We still all meet up almost two years on!

Hello Jamama. The first sign I was developing SPD I felt as if I had received a right kicking in the crotch area! All over that area. That said I had shooting pains in my cervix this week. I just ignore anything not accompanied with cramps and/or bleeds. I'm trying not to be as anxious during this pregnancy.

I haven't been on the thread for a couple of weeks, and have just spent the last 2 hours reading through something like 20 pages of posts. Insomnia will do that to you.....think I'm just about ready to pack up and go back to bed now, I've been up since 2am.

I've seen some great news on here whilst catching up, and some sad news too. Just wanted to check in and say hello to everyone, and hope you're all doing ok.

Am feeling physically much better now, ms has passed, and nowhere near as exhausted. But now the hormones seem to have kicked in on an emotional level, and I find myself easily upset and weepy. Mainly in relation to annoying SIL. I could write about 2000 words here on how much she upsets me, but I wouldn't like to bore you all (and its not blatant nastiness either, so its not like I can just cut her out of my life, its much more complicated than that). Mostly, she can wind me up a bit, I vent to my own sister, or a friend, and then I feel better. But for the past week, I've been so wound up that I've just wanted to cry constantly. It must be hormones. And the lack of sleep isn't helping.

Ah well, its good to be back on here. I'm not going to let two weeks pass again....except when I go on hols at the end of June, can't wait for that!

I'm off to bed I think, although I suspect that some of you are probably getting up around now, if you have small children in the house.

sorry for the long post

Too tired after long week at work so we had takeaway pizza last night and I didn't even make salad to go with it so v unhealthy. Waiting for energy levels to return and will fill the freezer with nice home made stuff again. still no word on blood tests and almost the two week Mark. Anyone else had to wait two to three weeks for their risk factor? Off to be measured for new bra as some of mine are a bit too small so getting the double boob effect! Was 32b or 34a depending on bra so will be interesting to see what I am now. Don't want to get too big as quite, like my little ones and also don't want to have to buy lots of new tops. Naive question but do your boobs return to normal after the birth?

Morning all, thank god it is the weekend! Although not that happy as due paid on Sunday and apparently it is going to be Monday, am sure they arent allowed to pay me late (even if it is only a day!) Wanted to go out for lunch with OH as my dc's are at their dads and I am feeling like I am due a nice little lunch in the sun! Ah well. Also would like the need to have toast with Lurpak on, or any other bread stuff with Lurpak on, to vanish. It isnt good (but very yummy!). Hope everyone has a lovely weekend. Only 5 weeks ish til 20 week scan, not that am counting! Anyone wanting to find out the flavour?

I am so with you on the lurpak on bread product obsession - in fact just tucking into a soda farl smeared in it! Can't face veggies so treating myself like a toddler and hiding them in things whilst trying to max on fruit to compensate.

6.5 weeks til 20 week scan and def want to know flavour though I am convinced it's a girl ...

cookie sadly, unless you're very lucky, your boobs will never be the same again. Pre 1st pg I was a b cup, after I remained a d cup. Now I'm currently an f cup!

snoozle sorry you're having family problems I'm very emotional lately, the Mcanns were on radio2 this wk and I was in floods of tears.

Just off to my nuchal scan feeling quite nervous. I'm somewhere between 12 and 13 wks so fingers crossed. Our 20 wk scan is on 6 july and we'll be finding out the sex. DD was a surprise and I think it didn't help my bonding with her.

cookie yes i have to wait 2-3 weeks for a low risk result, if it's high they should have phoned you within 7 working days (or at least that's what they do here.) o i have till end of tuesday if it's high risk.

i have just over 5 weeks till my 20 wk scan and we're waiting till the birth to find out flavour.

mrsa good luck hon.

grrr dh is being stubborn about pushchairs, we have a travel system that we used with ds (of which both "wings" of the car seat have been broken and mended) and a seperate pushchair that i used from when ds was 6 months on easier to use. the seperate one (bought second hand) is now starting to get things wrong with it, the foot strap thing is broken and the hood keeps catching and coming off. He thinks that for someone who is always moaning about having too much to do so much apparently that most of it doesn't get done, that he's suddenly going to find the time to make a material foot rest thing. all this to save 99p or £5 + petrol to go and collect them. (ebay obviously)

Ah good luck with scan MrsA

Ali I 'knew' with both the dc's, however I have no idea with this one although I am leaning towards a boy. I didnt find out with either til birth but this time for practical reasons I want to find out and as it is OH's 1st and he desperately wants to know I think it is probably fair to find out!

I am off to the shop to spend some of my last pennies on some more bread products, OH may have to fend for himself with what is in the cupboard/freezer while I enjoy crumpets, muffins, etc and Lurpak! Although since veggies were mentioned I randomly fancy Asparagus. Is it too early for proper cravings?

I had some very strange cravings with other 2 dc's, OH is secretly hoping I get them again as he is dying to see me fighting the urge to sit in the middle of the washing powder aisle in Asda with a box of Ariel!

thanks to cep and katie - Am desperately hoping it is a) too early and b) just not SPD, after an earlyish night and lie in pain gone, I do wonder if it is just because I am a bit stingy with the loo breaks when I'm at work - there are only so many times an hour I can tolerate myself needing to wee, but perhaps need to listen to my body a bit more. Was overthinking about incompetent cervixes etc., but apparently that is not characterised by any aching or soreness (thanks Dr Google for once). Probably less sitting at desk and more doing stuff will help.
Eurovision party at a work friend's house this evening, which sounds wonderful until I mention that she and her cheating fker of a husband (with whom I also work :( - and I know the other woman - just so :( ) only broke up a matter of weeks ago (and worse, am not confident that all the guests even know this yet) - am terribly nervous for her, so will prob spend all day cooking food to compensate for nerves - veggie Swedish meatballs, anyone?

Postman just arrived with my letter 1:37000 absolutely delighted as age was 1:75

Cookie that's fab news. I got mine yesterday after my Monday scan and my risk is 1:8900 and such a quick responce.

jamama Good luck at your Eurovision party. I don't think it'll be the same sober! You will actually have to listen to all the songs. That can't be a good thing!

MrsA hope the scan went well.

Snoozle I hope your SIL doesn't 'get' to you too much. Be the bigger person and just smile and nod behind gritted teeth whilst bitting your tounge. My MIL can say some horrible things sometimes, like I thought you'd put on some weight, when we told her our news and also brings up how hard it must be as my Dad won't be here to see his first grandchild. She didn't mean to be nasty but I did have to excuse myself for 30 mins while I seethed upstairs then spent the rest of her visit sucking my tummy in.

This is a bit outrageous but I'm mning from bed.

We've had such busy weekends over the past month or so that took advantage of OH's hangover to both have a lazy day. It feels so naughty but brilliant. May as well while I can.

Round here they say 2 weeks to receive a letter for low chance of DSyndrome and a phonecall within a week if high. I got my letter today: 1 in 94000 and for age 1 in 679 so feel very relieved.

Voodoo I've not had cravings as such in that I don't absolutely have to have something but have been eating own body weight in fruit and threw my values out of the window in sainsburys and bought nesquick the other week to make choc milk. Haven't had that for at least 20 years! Making up for it now though. Nom nom.

We're having our first so not finding out sex. Those that have a sense, was it from the minute you were pregnant or after the first scan etc?

Hi all,
I definitely knew DS was a boy - I never even looked at girls names in the books, cocky mare that I was. I can't remember when it was I think it sort of slowly crystalised but I think by the 12 week scan when she said she thought it was a boy it was what I epected and I was sure she wasn't wrong. This time round I am much less sure, I thought I saw bits on the scan but both sets stick out in the early stages but it feels v different to DS with him I was always aware of a very 'other presense' but this feels so much more similar to the rest of me... hence I think its a girl. Apparently more people can correctly pick the gender when they are having boys than girls so who knows maybe they are a bit shyer and more mysterious? Anyway I'm wittering. My cravings are different too, veggies? Blee, no thanks. It's fruit all the way, and also lots of philli style cheese on oatcakes. Nom.

Got nucual scan results back and its 1 in 35000 so im a happy bunny :)

After the 12 week scan they booked my 20 week scan though its actually a 21 week scan as the sonographer reckoned its better. Sees like ages away though. Now that im 13 weeks does it mean im in my 2nd trimester? Cant remember if its now or 14 weeks.

Got a lovely message this morning from a fb friend, her dd sadly died at a month old last year and shes expecting in November too :) Wonderful news for her family and really made my day :)

Told ex dh who has not taken news well at all, will barely speak to me and has mentioned changing his job so he can have girls more nights, he already has them 3 out of 8 and currently has them most days before and after school. Hopefully he'll realise that more changing his job will actually result in him seeing them less as he currently has massive amounts of free time whivh would be reduced dramatically. Hes a bit obsesed with how many nights he has them purly because he doesnt want to pay any child support. Im happy with current arrangement but dont want him to have them any more. One of his other reasons for wanting them more is because he doesnt want them living with my boyfriend who is obv moving in with me. This isnt because theirs any thing the matter with him just he says its not his right to spend time with his children :( All a bit stressfull and not sure what to do tbh.

Any way whinge over! Im a teacher and my maternity is full pay 4 weeks, 90% 6 weeks, 50% plus smp for 8 weeks then smp for quite a while. Think id only manage a month on just smp so im looking at 6 months off. Wish I could have a year! Thought the pay might have been better but it could be worse so not the end of the world

I think I knew from before the 12 week scan with both the dc's Folic. I didnt buy anything girlie with my ds and forced myself to look at girls clothes as my mum said I had to! I was so sure I was having a boy that we hardly thought of girls names. With dd (she was no2) I knew I was having a girl as it was so different to ds! Don't even think I had any boys names with her! I had ms, but felt well. This time, hmm well I just feel totally different! No real ms, but feeling sick an awful lot and I am hungry constantly! It is mainly boys in OH's family, I have one of each and two nieces so thats not going to help with pattern spotting much!

Now who has philly and oatcakes, this is sounding niiiice!

See though, I "knew" ds1 was a girl but I was wrong so I have never, ever trusted my instincts since!

Eurovision tonight! Think dh and I may lift our takeaway ban just for tonight. He will be having beer but I bought non-alco beer a few nights ago for the semi-final and couldn't bring myself to drink it so it will be tea for me. ds3 and ds4 are huge Jedward fans so will be allowed to stay up late.

with DD I was certain I was having a boy, had only picked a girl's name as a sort of 'oh well, I suppose we'd better, just in case'. I hadn't entertained the idea of having a girl, so I was really shocked when the surgeon delivered her (after long labour and emcs, so emotionally I was not in a fantastic shape!) and to my eternal shame, I thought to myself, 'no, you're wrong, I have a son'. Strangely though, within a few minutes, it sunk in and I couldn't imagine having a son, and I had no difficulty bonding. My annoying SIL had had a girl two weeks earlier, and I spent the last two weeks of my pg willing myself to have a boy, because I couldn't bear the thought of my daughter going through life being compared to hers, but thats exactly what has happened (see my earlier post about being easily upset at the moment!). But, naturally, I wouldn't change her for the world. In fact, I'm a bit anxious this time round, as I'm worried that I'll struggle to bond with a boy. People keep saying to me 'I suppose DH wants a son' and it makes me really mad, as if a girl is some sort of second rate consolation prize, like the one we have isn't good enough. As it happens, DH is not one of these men who really wants a son, which is a relief, as I'd hate the pressure of feeling that he might be disappointed with another girl.

My DH really wants a girl as he is one of two boys and his brother had a boy. My family have all girls (5 girl cousins) so I suppose at least one side will be happy.

I'm cooking a mild curry tonight and going to veg in front of the box for Eurovision.

Oh and whats old, blue and can't sing?

Blue! Tee hee......

Snoozle, a girl on another site I visited had been told at 3D scan that she was having a boy but had a girl. When the surgeon delivered her daughter and announced she was a girl, she told him he was wrong and wouldn't believe it until he showed her the lack of dangly bits!

I was convinced DS was a boy from the minute I wS PG but to be honest I had always wanted an older brother so think it was wishful thinking or projection that turned out to be true - I did have a sense I was growing something 'alien' to my body. With DD I felt so completely different I was convinced she was a girl and was right - hormones a lot less rampant. This time I feel the same so thinking girl again but who knows, maybe it is just your 1st PG that feels different then your body gets used to it. When I thought about having 3 children many years ago it was always boysgirl, boy...

Hi all. Quick post to say scan was amazing - baby really grown and they saw a nasal bone too. Nuchal measurement was so small she could barely measure it

Interesting posts. I was convinced I'd have two boys. And to my shame, I'd always wanted two boys being a very ungirly type myself. However I'm really trying to stop that thinking now, and now I'm thinking girl I can see all sorts of advantages - not least that DS is such a softy sensitive type he seriously risks being beaten up by a younger brother . Plus the men I know from all boy households seem to be less comfy with their emotions and blokes with sisters always seem to treat women so much better. That said we already have our second boy's name: Duncan as it was DH's favourite last time. For a girl DH will pick the first name, and in my head for the middle ones I have Caitlyn (my sister is a catherine and my mum was lynn) and this one's a bit more unusual: Juno, DH has yet to be convinced but I love it

Ooh and heard heart beat on scan - amazing 157bpm. Off to crash out now - was a very long day but have just gone public on fb!