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AIBU to stop unannounced visits after overhearing cruel comments in my garden?

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UnflatteringComment · 21/06/2026 13:04

Dh has 2 dd from his previous marriage. They are 16 and 18. I’ve always thought I got on well with both.
He sees them very regularly and they often just pop round whenever they fancy as well as the arranged times when they stay.

It’s relevant to include that dsd2 is in recovery for an eating disorder.

It’s been hot and I’ve been relaxing in the garden some days in a bikini (recently lost weight in jabs so was feeling quite confident). Yesterday they came over (not planned) and I heard them laughing at me from the kitchen and saying maybe it’s not a good thing I’ve lost weight if I’m going to start dressing differently and showing off loose skin. I don’t think they realised I could hear ?

Anyway I got up and went inside , said nothing and was thinking to myself how funny it’ll be when they are my age and look like this they’ll probably remember making bitchy comments. Dsd2 said hello and I said hi back, she said they were going to sit outside with a drink did I want anything I said no thanks I’m just going to put a dress on , cover up these wobbly bits and loose skin and smirked. She looked a bit shocked probably realising I’d heard her.

Next thing I know as I’m getting changed the door slams , I went down and nobody was there . Half an hour later dh calls me to ask why the hell i was talking about weight and smirking at dsd2 and apparently looking her up and down ???!!!

I told him what had happened and he said he will have to get their side of the story. Well of course I know dsd1 will back up what dsd2 is saying. I’m just really disappointed with them and I didn’t do anything wrong! AIBU to say to dh that there are no more unannounced visits after this - I should be able to sit in my garden in a bikini and not feel laughed at?

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DesertIslandDips · 22/06/2026 15:37

blackpear · 22/06/2026 15:33

I don't think the OP said anything wrong. She merely repeated back what the stepdaughter had said and smirked, making it clear she was offended and hurt. I wouldn't ask the girls to announce their arrivals, as I think children do need to think of both parents' homes as their homes, but the stepdaughter sounds like a manipulative little madam, who needs a bloody stern talking-to.

@blackpear little madam indeed, its just cringe that she has twisted this to play the victim with an ED, when all her stepmother has done is withdraw gracefully and make a pointed remark to let them know she heard them.

ThatCyanCat · 22/06/2026 15:39

There's talk about "calling out" the horrid behaviour, but a huge part of the issue is that OP didn't actually "call out" anything. She didn't tell the child she heard the remark. She made a cryptic pass agg comment with a smirk and the kid has misunderstood. Had she been direct about what she was upset about, then whatever else might have happened, there couldn't have been a misunderstanding. Tbh I might well have misread it, because smirks are designed to be superior and sneery.

OP and her husband have to act like the adults in the room because they are.

MyTrivia · 22/06/2026 15:39

Mummyoflittledragon · 22/06/2026 15:07

I see no one outright defending the behaviour. I see tempered responses from adults.

Well I saw someone basically using the logic that if you point out someone is a bully, that makes you a bully. Which leads me to believe that MN is full of immature people these days.

MyTrivia · 22/06/2026 15:41

ThatCyanCat · 22/06/2026 15:39

There's talk about "calling out" the horrid behaviour, but a huge part of the issue is that OP didn't actually "call out" anything. She didn't tell the child she heard the remark. She made a cryptic pass agg comment with a smirk and the kid has misunderstood. Had she been direct about what she was upset about, then whatever else might have happened, there couldn't have been a misunderstanding. Tbh I might well have misread it, because smirks are designed to be superior and sneery.

OP and her husband have to act like the adults in the room because they are.

I don’t think she misunderstood

blackpear · 22/06/2026 15:42

MyTrivia · 22/06/2026 15:41

I don’t think she misunderstood

Nor do I. She's sixteen not six. It will have been as plain as day.

KmcK87 · 22/06/2026 15:45

grumpygrape · 22/06/2026 14:29

We're not talking about before, we're talking about now. If OP wanted it to stay hers she shouldn't have married a man with children.

It doesn’t sound like they actually live there, just drop in when they feel like it so my opinion remains the same.

FWC2026 · 22/06/2026 15:45

Thebigonesgetaway · 22/06/2026 12:34

I’m not sure about that, I see a lot of posts in this vein. Respect is a two way street, good behaviour is required from all parties, irrelevant of age, the op gave as good as she got, if not better, a parent should lead by example when they see bad or disrespectful behaviour. Not mimic it,

when they do they lose the upper hand, as the op has done.

She didn't mimic it. Mimicing it would have been saying something horrible about their bodies. She simply let them know she'd heard the bitchy comments.

she hasn't lost the 'upper hand' at all. They've learnt their behaviour has consequences.

grumpygrape · 22/06/2026 15:45

fartotheleftside · 22/06/2026 14:34

it's not, though. If their Dad was concerned about this maybe he would have bought his own house. That's their business. But it's not up to the OP to be bullied in her own home to make the bullies feel wanted.

OP says it's no longer her house (except it obviously is in her head) how do you know what the financial arrangements were regarding the father's accommodation prior to this marriage?

ThatCyanCat · 22/06/2026 15:49

MyTrivia · 22/06/2026 15:41

I don’t think she misunderstood

I know you don't, but all things considered - usual teenage self centredness, ED, deliberately cryptic remark with a smirk, not expecting to have been overheard so no reason to make the connection and so on - it seems very likely to me. But I am also team It's Not Big Or Clever To Call A Child A Cunt On The Internet, and I'm aware we are outnumbered on this one.

Quite honestly I think a lot of this is people experiencing second hand stinging from a teenage remark about a middle aged body.

FWC2026 · 22/06/2026 15:49

ThatCyanCat · 22/06/2026 12:34

We are all old enough on here to know right from wrong and yet we all sometimes do wrong. It's not an irredeemable crime for a 16 year old with a mental illness to make an unkind remark and misunderstand the deliberately cryptic response. It's not an excuse for abusive remarks from adults who should also know right from wrong.

There was nothing cryptic about the OP's response. Nothing.

what abusive remark??

notanotherfootballmatch · 22/06/2026 15:50

DesertIslandDips · 22/06/2026 15:34

Don't write anything to them, OP. Carry on as you were, and when your husband or his daughters attempt to resurrect this just calmy reiterate, "not interested" and close them down. You can't unhear it, they can't defend it, and whatever the little madams say to reassure you (that's if they're not having an all-out pout-fest with daddy) I would be inclined to dismiss whatever they came up with.
They have absolutely disrespected you in your own home, been bitchy and cruel and are now very distastefully milking the ED for as long as they are able.
You know what they are like, don't waste your time with them.

And this would likely result in 20+ years of continued sniping on both sides.

You could just have a group conversation in which you explain that you overheard their comments and were understandably upset. Your husband, if he has any sense, will prep them with this and they will apologise. You accept graciously and you then have some chance of a continuing pleasant family relationship.

grumpygrape · 22/06/2026 15:50

KmcK87 · 22/06/2026 15:45

It doesn’t sound like they actually live there, just drop in when they feel like it so my opinion remains the same.

OP has said they spend regular time there plus drop in.

MrsShawnHatosy · 22/06/2026 15:53

grumpygrape · 22/06/2026 15:45

OP says it's no longer her house (except it obviously is in her head) how do you know what the financial arrangements were regarding the father's accommodation prior to this marriage?

He moved into her home.

sssunday21 · 22/06/2026 15:57

UnflatteringComment · 22/06/2026 12:23

I have not spoken about weight loss or my use of WLI at all to dsd2. I don’t even have scales in the house due to this and I weighed myself at my dm house . Obviously she can see I’ve lost weight but I have not made it an issue.

The main point is that you seem to have felt justified in being psychologically wounded by this comment. And you aren't. It was a teaching moment from you as an adult to her as a 16/18 year old. You could have dealt with it in a calm and adult manner. Instead you escalated it to a feud which has caused enormous distress.

You could start modelling adulthood by apologising to SD, and her Dad making it clear an apology from her to you is also in order.

KmcK87 · 22/06/2026 15:57

grumpygrape · 22/06/2026 15:50

OP has said they spend regular time there plus drop in.

If OP and her husband split up, he will be the one moving out

ThatCyanCat · 22/06/2026 15:59

FWC2026 · 22/06/2026 15:49

There was nothing cryptic about the OP's response. Nothing.

what abusive remark??

Edited

Of course it was cryptic. It pretended to be about wanting to cover her own body when it was actually about the kid's comment that she didn't know was overheard, complete with a smirk that wouldn't make any sense if it had been direct and honest. Why on earth would you smirk at someone over deciding to put some more clothes on? I don't believe anyone doesn't understand that.

It was pass agg, designed to convey her displeasure without having to have an actual direct confrontation over it - plausible deniability, basically, and it was plausible enough that the kid totally misread it.

Abusive remarks: people on here calling the kid a cunt, a shit, and so on and then congratulating themselves for it. Read the thread, it's all there. Body issues really bring it out, I guess.

grumpygrape · 22/06/2026 16:00

MrsShawnHatosy · 22/06/2026 15:53

He moved into her home.

Big you don't know if he sold his house and paid off her mortgage or any other financial scenario.

grumpygrape · 22/06/2026 16:01

KmcK87 · 22/06/2026 15:57

If OP and her husband split up, he will be the one moving out

What's that got to do with the price of fish?

sssunday21 · 22/06/2026 16:02

Quite honestly I think a lot of this is people experiencing second hand stinging from a teenage remark about a middle aged body

@ThatCyanCat

I 100% agree with this. And I say that as a woman in my 50s.

I can't describe how unedifying I have found it to listen to women who appear to have matured in their bodies but not their minds or emotions, spill bile and retribution on a teenage girl. I can only conclude that these women have failed to achieve any sort of security in their sense of self and esteem.

No middle aged woman should be bothered by a comment from a teenager.

tartyflette · 22/06/2026 16:05

OP is getting a bit of a pasting here but I don’t think she has an anything seriously wrong, one of these teenagers is in fact an adult and should be aware of the consequences of her speech, or indeed any other actions.
She has not banned visits from the SDDs outright, just casual unannounced ones and a/she can do this, it’s her house and it could well be inconvenient at times and b/surely it’s no hardship anyway for the SDDs to phone ahead and ask to come round?

Abouteffingtime · 22/06/2026 16:07

I said YABU because you reacted like a teenager. Why not just address it with them? A simple "i can hear you when Im out in the garden" would have sufficed.

MyTrivia · 22/06/2026 16:17

ThatCyanCat · 22/06/2026 15:49

I know you don't, but all things considered - usual teenage self centredness, ED, deliberately cryptic remark with a smirk, not expecting to have been overheard so no reason to make the connection and so on - it seems very likely to me. But I am also team It's Not Big Or Clever To Call A Child A Cunt On The Internet, and I'm aware we are outnumbered on this one.

Quite honestly I think a lot of this is people experiencing second hand stinging from a teenage remark about a middle aged body.

Nope, but I can see why the OP is upset. She should be able to sunbathe in her own garden.

I have young adults and teens who wouldn’t dream of being so nasty about me or anyone else.

CorvidDreams · 22/06/2026 16:19

Just to say from the point of view of an ex anorexic, she might have genuinely misinterpreted your comment to be about her body. You're not thinking rationally when you're in that space, and can be deeply paranoid about comments.

AgingLikeGazpacho · 22/06/2026 16:23

Laughing at the idea of OP being cryptic to ensure plausible deniability - she didn't need plausible deniability as she had done nothing wrong. She would have been perfectly in her rights to say "I heard what you said and am going to cover up because you've made me self conscious about my body in my own home". She equally had the right to quote back what her stepdaughter said in order to highlight that the comment had been heard and assume the stepdaughter wasn't a complete dunce and could figure out cause and effect.

I don't think the SD genuinely misunderstood the comment, she was just embarrassed at being caught out and didn't want to handle the discomfort of coming to terms with her own nasty comments so has twisted the narrative (possibly even to the extent that she now believes her own lies) to give herself the comfort that OP is the nasty one.

Anarchy99 · 22/06/2026 16:24

BillyBites · 22/06/2026 14:54

Yes, they were unkind. I don’t blame you at all for being upset about this. I’d also be cross about the fact that they/one of them) twisted what happened and lied to their father and he appears to believe them over you!! He reckons he needs to hear their side of the story? That’s effectively saying he thinks you’re lying about it.
I’d be livid about that.

What’s so bad about a father believing his own kids over his wife? So many men side with their wives over their children and get slated for it.

He can clearly see that the OP reacted like a teen herself - now she wants to stop them coming round as much as they do, The OP’s own description of her reaction is what is making people come down on the side of her stepdaughters.

But the amount of grown adults calling young women names makes me think that some of you should look to yourselves before accusing anyone else of being spiteful or bitchy.

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