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Ds wants his dad to visit him but Dh isn’t comfortable

284 replies

heartmyheart · Today 09:42

Ds is 20 and has never been particularly close to his dad, a lot of this is due to distance but in 20 years he’s only seen his dad a dozen times but they do chat on the phone.
His dad has another family now and has found it difficult to spend time with him.
However his dad has said he’d now like to come and visit him and ds has agreed.
Ds would like him to come over and see his house and where he lives and spend time with him here but Dh is saying he doesn’t want him to come in and that Ds is old enough to meet him somewhere without him needing to come over which would be uncomfortable for him.

On the other hand this is also Ds home and he wants his dad to come and visit so I am torn while I see both sides I don’t want to make Dh feel uncomfortable in his own home but I also don’t want Ds not to feel he can have his dad to visit in his home especially as he’s never come to see him before and he’s exited that he’s making the effort as it’s only ever been ds going to visit his dad until now.
I feel torn as it’s all of our home and everyone should have a say in who comes here.

OP posts:
DalmationalAnthem · Today 10:30

Tell your son you aren't keen on having your ex in your property, the men can easily meet up literally anywhere else. There's no reason for the loser to be in your house.

mindutopia · Today 10:32

Your son hasn’t had it easy having an absent shitty dad. If he wants to have him for a coffee at home, let him do the hosting. You and Dh go out for the day. Ask him to make sure they keep to public areas, downstairs and garden, not going up to bedrooms out of respect for you. Come home once he’s left.

heartmyheart · Today 10:33

Blondeshavemorefun · Today 10:14

I get DS wants to show his dad his home
so can he come and collect him , show him and both leave to go to a cafe etc

how do you feel seeing your ex again @heartmyheart

do you want him in your home scrutinising it ?

I don’t personally have any strong opinions either way but I can see why Dh would find it awkward.
I can’t even picture him as it’s been 20 years but I also see why Ds would assume here is somewhere to bring him as this is his home and he is driving a long way to come and see him and there will be no guarantee of nice weather to just go out for hours.
Ds had just quite matter of fact said “my dad is coming to visit on bla bla day and so I told Dh and he equally as matter of fact said “well he’s not coming here…
So feeling a bit torn.

OP posts:
Gymnopedie · Today 10:35

I think the DH's issue is maybe not the OP and her ex, but the son and the ex. If DH has been a significant father figure to him, he's perhaps worried that the ex (the bio dad) is going to swan in and expect to be greeted as a hero, and more to the point that the DS will treat him as such.

liloandstitchh · Today 10:36

I can’t understand which way the voting works but I’m on your husbands side. I would be more sympathetic if your DS was a child but he isn’t. I would feel very uncomfortable if I was your husband and it’s his house too.

sesquipedalian · Today 10:36

I’m astonished by those who say your DH needs to grow up - this is his home, and not somewhere that a deadbeat loser of an ex can come to visit after twenty years just because he thinks he will, and has persuaded his son to ask him round. DS can meet his DF out of the house. If his father wants to know what the house is like, (why???) tell DS to make a video for him.

Iwanttobeafraser · Today 10:36

I think there should be a middle ground. You and your DH go out. Your Ds has his dad over for a coffee (and, Ds needs to be 100% clear that if showing his dad round, he excludes areas like your bedroom or bathroom or study or whatever private spaces you have) then they head out to do whatever it is that they want to do - a meal, a football game, a gym session or whatever. It's not unreasonable for you and your Dh not to want your ex in your home at length, butyour DS is an adult and while it's still your home, it's also his home.

lottlecat · Today 10:39

People saying your husband needs to grow up when actually it’s the DS that needs to grow up here. He isn’t 4, he doesn’t need to show off his room to his barely present dad. He can make arrangements to see his dad literally anywhere in between your house and his dad’s. It absolutely does not need to be your family home that you share with your husband and son. No fucking way would I agree to that if I were in your position never mind from your husband’s POV.

AVerySeriousCat · Today 10:41

Gymnopedie · Today 10:35

I think the DH's issue is maybe not the OP and her ex, but the son and the ex. If DH has been a significant father figure to him, he's perhaps worried that the ex (the bio dad) is going to swan in and expect to be greeted as a hero, and more to the point that the DS will treat him as such.

Even if that’s the case though, OPs husband shouldn’t stand in the way of a relationship OPs son wants to have with his dad.

OP, as you’re not bothered if he visits, I think your husband needs to just deal with it OP, let him visit and see how it goes. He should be secure enough to do that as it’s your son’s home too.

Sunisgettinganewhaton · Today 10:44

Team dh here. Your ds isn't 5. He doesn't need to show his daddy his bedroom...

IgnoreIt · Today 10:44

AVerySeriousCat · Today 10:41

Even if that’s the case though, OPs husband shouldn’t stand in the way of a relationship OPs son wants to have with his dad.

OP, as you’re not bothered if he visits, I think your husband needs to just deal with it OP, let him visit and see how it goes. He should be secure enough to do that as it’s your son’s home too.

Agreed. If the OP has no issue with her deadbeat ex coming to the house, then I think her husband needs to get over whatever male territorial pissing contest is going on in his head. They guy isn't moving in. He probably won't be there for long. It matters to the OP's DS.

Smoothquark · Today 10:45

If you were talking about an 8 year old, I would understand.

But your DS is 20 and he wants to know his daddy his bedroom?

FGS no

WoollyHeadedMammoth · Today 10:46

What are your DH's reasons for not wanting DS's father to visit the house? If there's some backstory like he was abusive to you and/or DS and your DH has seen the aftermath of that, then I see his point but I think that if you and DS both feel OK with him coming that carries a little more weight. Or do your DH and your ex have separate bad personal history between them? Ex would have to have done something pretty horrible before I'd agree that he be banned from the house if DS wants to invite him.

I do think it's reasonable to ask DS to specify a specific time frame for him to come (and leave) so that anyone who wants to be absent in order to avoid seeing him can easily do so.

Smoothquark · Today 10:46

Ds had just quite matter of fact said “my dad is coming to visit on bla bla day and so I told Dh and he equally as matter of fact said “well he’s not coming here…

at 20, ds sounds rude and thoughtless

my response would be exactly the same as your husband

Weeellokthen · Today 10:47

Team dh

S0j0urn4r · Today 10:47

I don't think you need to get in the middle of this. Your son is an adult and can discuss this with your husband.

Smoothquark · Today 10:48

Your DS and DH…. Don’t get on do they?

I reckon DS, who isn’t even close to his dad, is suggesting he wants to show daddy his bedroom just to piss off your husband

IBlinkedAndBecameMiddleAged · Today 10:48

TalulahJP · Today 09:58

the son is 20 years old? any special needs? if not i’d suggest somewhere neutral and in the middle of both houses for a first meeting. it’s scary. there’s a lot for him to process.

perhaps a mcdonald’s or cafe or something easy to talk, no pressure.
you could run him there and wait until you see his dad and then dc can go and get a coffee with him.
you'll pick him up in an hour. you go elsewhere. even just the parking lot next door.

next time perhaps you drop him off and go immediately.

time after that they go to dads house and you pick him up in an hour.

etc etc. just to increase his confidence that he can trust his dad. it’s a lot putting your heart out there to potentially be broken by some prick who should know better. if dc agrees tell the dad the plan. not to rush him. that itll build confidence and trust and he owes the boy that at the very least. overface him and he will run

I think this is great advice. It sounds like your DS is desperately wanting to know his dad, but given his dad’s record I would want to subtly protect my son as this could really impact him if it goes wrong.

CinnamonBuns67 · Today 10:50

I'd not feel comfortable having my partners ex in my house either so team DH here too. Your DS can meet with Dad elsewhere.

Branleuse · Today 10:51

I don't think it's appropriate for your ex to come in and look around your home, particularly since your dh is against it.
Your son and your ex haven't seen each other for such a long time, that the meeting should be on neutral ground and low pressure.
Tell your son that you support him in re-establishing contact if that's what he wants, but it won't be in your home.
If your ds had moved out and wanted to show off his place to his dad as his own achievement , that's different.

Smoothquark · Today 10:51

IBlinkedAndBecameMiddleAged · Today 10:48

I think this is great advice. It sounds like your DS is desperately wanting to know his dad, but given his dad’s record I would want to subtly protect my son as this could really impact him if it goes wrong.

Sounds to me like DS wants to piss off his step dad by suggesting his dad come and see his bedroom. DS is 20 not 8

Sassylovesbooks · Today 10:53

I think that either your son needs to meet his Dad on neutral ground...cafe, restaurant etc or you and your husband go out and leave your son to entertain his Dad for a couple of hours, with strict instructions that the only upstairs rooms shown is the bathroom (assuming you don't have a downstairs toilet) and your son's room.

Yes, the house is your son's home but it's a house that your husband pays towards, and he's perfectly entitled to feel the way he does. Your son isn't a child, and in all honesty doesn't need to show his Dad the inside of his home, let alone his bedroom! I can understand his Dad coming to the house to pick your son up and going elsewhere. Personally I'd have thought your ex would feel awkward coming to your home, and would rather meet his son on neutral ground!!

IBlinkedAndBecameMiddleAged · Today 10:54

OP you haven’t said how you feel about his dad coming to your home?

pikkumyy77 · Today 10:54

Man, Im team DS. I don’t see the need to be territorial. A protective step dad would realuze how scary this is for the 30 year old. Maybe he is scared of being stood up and rejected again by his bio father? Maybe he wants to stay close to what is familiar and secure when meeting this stranger?

This is not going to be the start of a wonderful new relationship its likely to be uncomfortable and filled with misunderstanding. I would treat it like a one off. Tell ds they can meet at the house with your support then go out. That way the son isn’t left wilting outside at a cafe while the ex husband no shows.

Hellohelga · Today 10:56

I’m team DH and I’m amazed you aren’t backing him up. I assume DH raised DS while DS dad did the bare minimum. It’s great they want to reconnect but it should not be on DH turf. If in 20 years DS dad has never established where and how to meet on a regular basis and be a parent, that’s on him.

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