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Why isn't there any mainstream media focus on British men rape who molest and rape, women and children? But just 'the boat people' ?! Evil/badness exists everywhere!

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Betchygreen · 23/04/2026 19:27

I'm an immigrant of white British/European descent and I saw a headline today in the mainstream media about 'rape meaning sex' pleaded according to asylum seekers who have recently tried at court for rape.

What's going on? If I had to report a (my) white British rapist, I really don't think it would've made headlines. Nor would've any other abuse. White Male British men seem to get off with impunity, or I know are ever accused and formally charged.

I feel it is a shocking abuse of power that only newcomers and brown skinned/other culture peoples are singled out.

Why is it that the UK remains so very much patriarchal and oppressive towards women and children? Why are we not centred in such as way that it as important for women and children to thrive in our society and culture as it is for men of any/whichever long standing class? Is it classicism or what is it? Explain it to me, I truly don't understand why it has to be like this other than those who get a rise out of feeling powerful and in control of others?

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anourishingsoup · Yesterday 21:40

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Are they wrong?

LetsBeWellBehaved · Today 07:53

What’s racist abojt not wanting rapists to be given compassionate citizenship exactly (at the expense of women/children’s safety and genuine refugees)? You have to just laugh. I just cannot with people anymore.

Swiftie1878 · Today 09:33

nomas · 23/04/2026 21:07

No one is defending them. But funny how every thread is hijacked and taken over and becomes about grooming gangs.

Why don't you ever want to talk about what white rapists do? What about the white man called john Ashby who pleaded guilty this week to raping a Sikh woman in her home and calling her a 'fucking Muslim bitch?'

It’s been all over the news and has been since the offence occurred last year. Rightly so.

anourishingsoup · Today 09:42

KatiePricesKnickers · Today 07:05

Are they wrong?

Yes, when people are only concerned about black/brown rapists they are very wrong.

KatiePricesKnickers · Today 09:52

anourishingsoup · Today 09:42

Yes, when people are only concerned about black/brown rapists they are very wrong.

And who has said that? No one in this thread.

BlakeCarrington · Today 10:02

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Please piss off with your accusations of racism. My comment above is in no way racist and your silencing tactic to prevent discussion of the extra threats being imported won’t work.

Betchygreen · Today 11:17

OP, here. Nowhere in my original post did I say rapists who belong to a certain culture or race - whether legal immigrant, native British citizen or asylum seeker - should get away with/excused for raping. All rape, regardless of the culture/race of the perpetrator, should be prosecuted with the full force of the law.

I was asking why White British men do not face the same public outage, and outrage, as brown skinned individuals, when there are clearly thousands of white men committing misogyny and rape. PPs have attempted to answer this question: It comes down to prejudice, ignorance, white male supremacy, misogyny and racism.

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cantstopthinkingaboutit2 · Today 11:33

Betchygreen · Today 11:17

OP, here. Nowhere in my original post did I say rapists who belong to a certain culture or race - whether legal immigrant, native British citizen or asylum seeker - should get away with/excused for raping. All rape, regardless of the culture/race of the perpetrator, should be prosecuted with the full force of the law.

I was asking why White British men do not face the same public outage, and outrage, as brown skinned individuals, when there are clearly thousands of white men committing misogyny and rape. PPs have attempted to answer this question: It comes down to prejudice, ignorance, white male supremacy, misogyny and racism.

The incident you are referring to was a gang rape in a public place on a stranger. That was always going to get a lot of press attention. I know you are desperate to see racism here but this story would have made headlines regardless of where the rapists were from.

Cheese55 · Today 11:40

Betchygreen · Today 11:17

OP, here. Nowhere in my original post did I say rapists who belong to a certain culture or race - whether legal immigrant, native British citizen or asylum seeker - should get away with/excused for raping. All rape, regardless of the culture/race of the perpetrator, should be prosecuted with the full force of the law.

I was asking why White British men do not face the same public outage, and outrage, as brown skinned individuals, when there are clearly thousands of white men committing misogyny and rape. PPs have attempted to answer this question: It comes down to prejudice, ignorance, white male supremacy, misogyny and racism.

I think PPs have pointed out that there is outrage over all men who rape/assault. I think the point is that, an increase of 20ish year old men whatever their colour leads to more rapes/assaults. Thereby indicating it is men that is the problem from wherever the are from. However I do think men from countries that have zero respect for women might influence their behaviour towards women when in the UK.

EasternStandard · Today 11:44

cantstopthinkingaboutit2 · Today 11:33

The incident you are referring to was a gang rape in a public place on a stranger. That was always going to get a lot of press attention. I know you are desperate to see racism here but this story would have made headlines regardless of where the rapists were from.

Agree on the recent case. Are you talking about the headlines and case this week op? Do you think it shouldn’t have been reported

Badbadbunny · Today 11:46

Bad enough that people born in Britain are rapists, but even worse when people are in the country who shouldn't be are adding to the number of rapists.

Just because we have "home grown" rapists doesn't mean we should also accept foreign born and/or illegal immigrant/asylum seeker rapists too.

If we had proper controls as to who comes into the country and proper systems in place to vet/check them, monitor them, and yes, deport those with no right to stay here quickly, the number of rapists would be less and more women/girls would be safe.

Badbadbunny · Today 11:48

anourishingsoup · Today 09:42

Yes, when people are only concerned about black/brown rapists they are very wrong.

Who said they're not concerned about "white" rapists? Presumably white rapists get caught and imprisoned too? Presumably white rapists get ostracised by family/friends, lose their jobs, etc. Are you saying that doesn't happen??

LetsBeWellBehaved · Today 11:49

Betchygreen · Today 11:17

OP, here. Nowhere in my original post did I say rapists who belong to a certain culture or race - whether legal immigrant, native British citizen or asylum seeker - should get away with/excused for raping. All rape, regardless of the culture/race of the perpetrator, should be prosecuted with the full force of the law.

I was asking why White British men do not face the same public outage, and outrage, as brown skinned individuals, when there are clearly thousands of white men committing misogyny and rape. PPs have attempted to answer this question: It comes down to prejudice, ignorance, white male supremacy, misogyny and racism.

of all the hills to die on

KatiePricesKnickers · Today 13:14

One of the rapists is a convicted murderer from Egypt, on the run.
He has no grounds to be here.
We can’t send him back because Egypt has the death sentence. Thanks once again ECHR.
People have a right to be pissed off.

ItsJustMeMyself · Today 13:16

Is this for real? All I read on the news is rape and sexual assault by white men. Very strange assertion to make when all able to verify as false. Are your news settings strange?

Firetreev · Today 13:20

nomas · 23/04/2026 21:07

No one is defending them. But funny how every thread is hijacked and taken over and becomes about grooming gangs.

Why don't you ever want to talk about what white rapists do? What about the white man called john Ashby who pleaded guilty this week to raping a Sikh woman in her home and calling her a 'fucking Muslim bitch?'

Because there is an element of racism in it. If there weren't they would be just as angry about white rapists, but they're not! Plenty of British men are rapists and paedophiles but they never seem to be as angry or worried about them.

cantstopthinkingaboutit2 · Today 13:36

Firetreev · Today 13:20

Because there is an element of racism in it. If there weren't they would be just as angry about white rapists, but they're not! Plenty of British men are rapists and paedophiles but they never seem to be as angry or worried about them.

Are they not? I think you’ll find most people are just as angry and worried about that. Most women I know are cautious about strange men whatever colour they are. If a man was following me at night I would feel intimidated whatever colour they are.

Who is the ‘they’ you are referring to? Because I don’t think it can be women, most women are wary about all men, full stop.

noworklifebalance · Today 13:56

cantstopthinkingaboutit2 · Today 13:36

Are they not? I think you’ll find most people are just as angry and worried about that. Most women I know are cautious about strange men whatever colour they are. If a man was following me at night I would feel intimidated whatever colour they are.

Who is the ‘they’ you are referring to? Because I don’t think it can be women, most women are wary about all men, full stop.

It’s a man problem but race is a definite issue whether it be that people are too scared to accuse because of race or ready to hang them without a trial because of their race.

Look at the riots after Southport but no protests after the Kyle Clifford (white) killed his ex girlfriend, her sister and mother with a crossbow.

ETA: I know the first case did not involve rape .

EasternStandard · Today 14:06

noworklifebalance · Today 13:56

It’s a man problem but race is a definite issue whether it be that people are too scared to accuse because of race or ready to hang them without a trial because of their race.

Look at the riots after Southport but no protests after the Kyle Clifford (white) killed his ex girlfriend, her sister and mother with a crossbow.

ETA: I know the first case did not involve rape .

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It’s more to do with straining public trust, Sarah Everard rightly had much public outcry and condemnation towards the criminal.

The case the op seeks to be discussing is outlined in @KatiePricesKnickerspost. Does anyone think entry for a convicted murderer on the run is a good idea?

noworklifebalance · Today 14:11

EasternStandard · Today 14:06

It’s more to do with straining public trust, Sarah Everard rightly had much public outcry and condemnation towards the criminal.

The case the op seeks to be discussing is outlined in @KatiePricesKnickerspost. Does anyone think entry for a convicted murderer on the run is a good idea?

Then there were the two black sisters who were murdered around the same time that barely got any media coverage.
Sarah Everard’s murder had intense coverage even before it was made known that a police officer was a suspect.

Sorry, not seen that post but, no, I don’t think anyone convicted of a serious crime should be allowed into the country.
No doubt the thread has moved on and my comments are probably off on a tangent!

LetsBeWellBehaved · Today 14:25

It could be racist is people were exclusively angry about black or Asian uk citizens but not white rapists.

But not men who turn out to be murderers from Egypt of fake asylum seekers from Sudan (who may well have been someone who joined in conflicts back home). This happens often enough that people are desensitised and think it’s acceptable/inevitable now. Wtaf

cantstopthinkingaboutit2 · Today 14:30

LetsBeWellBehaved · Today 14:25

It could be racist is people were exclusively angry about black or Asian uk citizens but not white rapists.

But not men who turn out to be murderers from Egypt of fake asylum seekers from Sudan (who may well have been someone who joined in conflicts back home). This happens often enough that people are desensitised and think it’s acceptable/inevitable now. Wtaf

Exactly and all 3 of the rapists had NO right to be here (all had their asylum applications rejected). Egypt is not even at war. One was on the run from a bloody murder conviction and was walking the streets here as a free man!

noworklifebalance · Today 14:35

LetsBeWellBehaved · Today 14:25

It could be racist is people were exclusively angry about black or Asian uk citizens but not white rapists.

But not men who turn out to be murderers from Egypt of fake asylum seekers from Sudan (who may well have been someone who joined in conflicts back home). This happens often enough that people are desensitised and think it’s acceptable/inevitable now. Wtaf

It could be racist is people were exclusively angry about black or Asian uk citizens but not white rapists

That was my point with the Axel Rudakubana and Kyle Clifford cases - both are UK citizens. The public response to the two were very different. Wasn’t OPs question about difference in outrage based on the perpetrator’s ethnicity?

safetyfreak · Today 14:35

We have enough of our own rapists, why should we be deporting more in?

I have a relative who works in the police, and she says there has been an increase of assualts occuring with certain immigrants towards young girls. These are strangers' attacks.