Why isn't there any mainstream media focus on British men rape who molest and rape, women and children? But just 'the boat people' ?! Evil/badness exists everywhere!

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I'm an immigrant of white British/European descent and I saw a headline today in the mainstream media about 'rape meaning sex' pleaded according to asylum seekers who have recently tried at court for rape.

What's going on? If I had to report a (my) white British rapist, I really don't think it would've made headlines. Nor would've any other abuse. White Male British men seem to get off with impunity, or I know are ever accused and formally charged.

I feel it is a shocking abuse of power that only newcomers and brown skinned/other culture peoples are singled out.

Why is it that the UK remains so very much patriarchal and oppressive towards women and children? Why are we not centred in such as way that it as important for women and children to thrive in our society and culture as it is for men of any/whichever long standing class? Is it classicism or what is it? Explain it to me, I truly don't understand why it has to be like this other than those who get a rise out of feeling powerful and in control of others?

This. Attitudes which are incompatible with our way of life.
Yes... we have our own home-grown rapists- cannot be denied.
Do we need to import any more?

Look at the % stats for Albanians arrested here. It is mind boggling.

OP consider a few things here:

firstly that there is a lot of focus on asylum seekers - for legitimate reasons - so therefore newspapers will jump on any story that involves asylum seekers. That might make the press shit stirring bastards who don’t care what they’re doing to society, and it definitely fans the flames of racism, but that is why you see it so much in the news. Same reason I could shoplift and no one would give a shit but if Meghan Markle nabbed a stick of gum from the local newsagent, her face would be plastered all over the 10 o’clock news.

secondly, many of the rapes committed by British men here (of any ethnic background) are likely to be of women linked to them. So they might take place somewhere they’re not likely to get caught of have witnesses, and they may be far less likely to be reported.

thirdly, someone speaking a different language when the rape happens is easier to identify - it’s quite a particular detail. And if there’s been trouble around an area where lots of these men are staying, the police will be aware of them - it’s not like just one rogue man does one crime, there is a huge amount of crime related to these large groups of asylum seekers.

fourth, you’re not wrong that there’s a conspiracy going on around the treatment of these people - but I’d urge you to consider it in a different light. Many asylum seekers have been victims, and the government is well aware/involved to varying degrees in this. So it helps them and criminals involved to have attention diverted from their crimes if everyone is busy looking at the asylum seekers as monsters. That isn’t straight forward racism. That’s money making. People trafficking. it’s a lot deeper than tommy Robinson’s lot not liking someone because they’re a different skin tone to them. go look into the Hove asylum seeker kidnappings. in fact everyone should because it is outrageous.

There really aren't white British grooming 'gangs' raping on the scale that the Asian and other non- white British gangs have been.

There are thousands upon thousands of white British rapists but not in a co-ordinated way like the Asian and other non-white British grooming gangs have been.

And definitely not any using white British culture or religion to rape. Which is what all of the Asian and other non-white British grooming gangs have all done. They used their Religion and culture to groom and rape white British girls.

This would be laughable, if not for the serious nature of the OP.

The question posed is not 'SHOULD WE IMPORT MORE RAPISTS'. It is, WHY IS THERE WIDESPREAD REPORTING OF FOREIGN RAPISTS, BUT NOT HOMEGROWN ONES'.

There is a lot to see here, actually.

I just outlined your position, so…

The Home Office report actually says there is limited evidence but there are more white grooming gangs. They fly under the radar better.

Having said that there does need to be a clear and effective strategy to understand and target grooming gangs. All women want that.

And definitely not any using white British culture or religion to rape. Which is what all of the Asian and other non-white British grooming gangs have all done. They used their Religion and culture to groom and rape white British girls.

The rapists used cigarettes and food and drugs to groom the girls. They then demanded ‘favours’ as recompense for these things. This is a classic grooming tactic, religion doesn’t teach you to do that.

How do you think white abusers groom victims?

No, you didn’t. She didn’t say that at all.

we know we have criminals of our own but it's not rocket science to understand that we don't want even more problems with men coming in on boats .
Why would you want to something?

I'll find a 5 year old to interpret this line and come back to you 🤦🏾‍♀️.

of course ppl batted eyelids about the men. Crazy thing to say that they didn't.

Horrific crimes do get headlines, it’s usually more likely if it’s something that breaks public trust such as Sarah Everard. The public were outraged.

You are NOT at equivalent risk.

You are NOT at an equivalent risk of being groped by passers by in London as you are in Cairo.

You are NOT at an equivalent risk of violent sexual assault in London as you are in Kabul.

The fact that there is risk in London does NOT make that risk the same as the risk somewhere else.

What you have just posted is downright wrong.

Far from being naive, I’m an active and campaigning member of a women’s rights organisation. The Egyptian women you speak of are fighting for their rights because of the way they are treated culturally by male Egyptians. My husband worked in Egypt a few years ago and was left pretty speechless by the way male businessmen treated and talked about women.

You are missing the point spectacularly. Spousal rape happens in this country and it is illegal. It is tolerated or legal in the following countries (source cited - Rape Crisis Scotland):

• Middle East/North Africa: Saudi Arabia, United Arab Emirates, Qatar, Oman, Bahrain, Kuwait, Yemen, Iraq, Syria, Jordan, Egypt, Lebanon.
• Asia: India, Pakistan, Sri Lanka, Afghanistan.
• Africa: South Sudan, Cote D'Ivoire, Gambia, Seychelles, Nigeria, Eritrea, Tanzania.

To be clear, this is not a ‘white’ thing as you claim I believe. It is a male thing, and it occurs with horrific regularity in countries where the culture encourages female subservience.

Nope, I don’t have patriotic glasses on. As I have just said to another poster, I am well aware of the stats around male violence in this country as I am an active member of a women’s rights group. I spend considerable time and energy complaining about men in this country, too.

Patriarchal repression and domination of women is global. That said, some practices are culturally different. It is inaccurate to say that FGM is a British cultural practice. It is inaccurate to say that girls and women can’t be educated in this country. It is inaccurate to claim that marital rape is preached about in Anglican churches. Women are still violently and sexually assaulted but we absolutely do not have a culture where men can openly talk in the workplace about hitting their wives.

Have you ever been to Cairo? I have never experienced harassment like it, despite wearing a full length skirt and arms covered etc. A woman on the trip made the mistake of wearing a knee-length skirt and she was stared at, leered at, shouted at etc all day. On the flip side, I‘ve been to London wearing a vest top and shorts in the height of summer and had no issues at all.

Of course there are good and bad people everywhere but some people are being very very naive about cultural differences and different societal attitudes towards women.

This is really naive, there are and have been pedophile rings abusing children full of white men and women. The idea that they don't do this on the same scale is just a racist accusation. The only difference is when they show the mugshots of the white British rapists people don't point to their race for a reason.

London? Yep it’s not all the same.

I wasn't groped in Cairo, but I've been groped by a white British man on Brighton Pier - middle of the afternoon and with 3 friends.

Apparently he had just been released from a Mental Health facility (having been sectioned last September) but without a full package of support. An extremely sad situation all round.

Oh, the poor mentally ill white man defence, as usual, when the criminal is white.

He whipped his victim, strangled her, turned hot water on her in the tub, made her say Hallelujah, repeated on many occasions that he was the master, and that she was ‘a fucking bitch and a fucking Muslim bitch’. he exposed himself to her and slapped his erect penis against her head. He raped her vaginally. He repeatedly called her a dirty and a filthy bitch. He repeatedly said that he was giving her some big British white cock.

And you feel sad for him?

Why are you focusing on where they come from? A man rapes a woman for control and power, regardless of where he comes from. White men who rape do not hold higher standards of women 🤔.

OP it's racism plain and simple. So many of the Protect Our Women crowd in my city have convictions for DV and ABH towards women. They don't give a shite about the women, they are just racists.

@anourishingsoup - it’s very obvious why people are focusing on where they come from - we have enough home grown sex offenders without importing yet more fgs!

Lack of Mental Health care for mentally ill people is very, very sad and can have, as here, devastating consequences.

Not sure where you are coming from and nowhere did I say "the poor mentally ill white man"

I tend not to categorise, label or other wise reference a person's colour if it has no relevance. I don't know but I don't think being White made him mentally ill, he just was, he was not, and is not of sound mind. But all you see is his colour.

I couldn't give a fuck. I feel no sadness for him. Poor mental health does not make anyone commit a racially-motivated rape. That poor, poor woman.

Nobody is doubting that UK men commit sexual violence but women in the Uk do have more freedom than say Afghanistan. The men that come from there are not going to have the same view of women as UK born men (which isn't that great).