Why isn't there any mainstream media focus on British men rape who molest and rape, women and children? But just 'the boat people' ?! Evil/badness exists everywhere!

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I'm an immigrant of white British/European descent and I saw a headline today in the mainstream media about 'rape meaning sex' pleaded according to asylum seekers who have recently tried at court for rape.

What's going on? If I had to report a (my) white British rapist, I really don't think it would've made headlines. Nor would've any other abuse. White Male British men seem to get off with impunity, or I know are ever accused and formally charged.

I feel it is a shocking abuse of power that only newcomers and brown skinned/other culture peoples are singled out.

Why is it that the UK remains so very much patriarchal and oppressive towards women and children? Why are we not centred in such as way that it as important for women and children to thrive in our society and culture as it is for men of any/whichever long standing class? Is it classicism or what is it? Explain it to me, I truly don't understand why it has to be like this other than those who get a rise out of feeling powerful and in control of others?

It is not part of British culture to accept that men can grope women in the street, rape their wives whenever they want their needs servicing, use violence to make women submit, have sex with or marry minors etc etc etc. However, it is a tolerated or actively practiced part of various Eastern / Middle Eastern cultures. When those men come here, they bring their learned beliefs, attitudes and values with them many of which are entitled, harmful and incompatible with our own laws and cultures. Surely you’re aware of things such as Islamic clerics from overseas being videoed in Birmingham mosques talking about their right to do whatever it takes to get women to comply? Our culture doesn’t tolerate men chatting about things like that as part of religious services!

You can't compare super rich chronic pedophiles, with a country where men will rape an unaccompanied women in public and be applauded for it. They are both awful but comparing the 2 is apples and pears and by implying we have something to learn from them is ludicrous

This in a nutshell.

the whataboutery around “but white mean rape too” denies the fact that illegal migrants shouldn’t be here and shouldn’t be freely wandering our streets. It’s just like the “but women can be abusers too” trope that gets spouted - existence of one does not negate the threat from the other.

I too experienced SA at the hands of a white male relative and yes, most abuse is at the hands of a man known to the victim. But why oh why are we accepting 1000s of men from seriously fucked up countries, with medieval views about women and girls, to just be freely in our communities? Close to schools, parks, beaches etc. Where children hang out.

I think our future generations will look back and be horrified that this was allowed under the “diversity is our strength” narrative.

We’ve enough male abusers of our own, we don’t need any more!

The National Crime Agency's Operation Stovewood cites that out of 323 designated CSAE suspects in Rotherham nearly two-thirds were recorded as coming from a Pakistani ethnic background, significantly higher than the proportion of South Yorkshire’s or Rotherham’s Pakistani ethnic population (2.4% and 4%respectively). Yes, white British were prosecuted in greater total numbers but it is hard to ignore the massive discrepancy in rates of offence between the two demographic groups and the systematic failure of a raft of institutions to investigate and pursue prosecutions for one group compared to the other.

No, it isn’t tolerated in the Middle East. Egyptian women protest long and fighting for their rights. How have you supported them?

You think groping and spousal rape doesn’t happen in the UK by white men?

How naive.

No, I won't give an example.
I will say, however, that we do not hold the moral high ground where rape and sexual assault is concerned, because of the many great Western values we enjoy, this is not one.
An estimated 739,000 women were the victims of rape or sexual assault last year. 1in 2 rapes were carried out by a partner or an ex, and 5 in 6 by someone knoen to the victim.
This is not a representation of stellar Western values towards women.

I think you have red white and blue tinted glasses on here.
Marital rape didn't become illegal in Britain until 1991. 1.6m women in the UK experienced DVA last year. 64% of UK women have experienced sexual harassment in a public place. Our refuges are full. Our teen daughters are catcalled in their school uniforms. One in four of us will have been raped or sexually assaulted as an adult. The NSPCC estimates that one in twenty of us will have been sexually abused as a child.
The chief of police calls MVAWG in the UK a "national epidemic beyond the scope of policing"
So unless you think there's some extremely busy offenders from other countries getting about a lot, you might need to accept that if our 'cultural norms' are so superior when it comes to the treatment of women, a lot of uk men didn't get the memo.

This is a country where men will rape and/or sexually assault women in public and be applauded for it, passerbys will turn a blind eye to it, no-one will give testimony against the assailants etc. Women are raped in buses, tubes, in town centres... And they won't face prosecution either.

Billionaires, millionaires and paupers- we all produce men that treat women with wanton disregard; because in the West as elsewhere, they can do so with impunity. We are not better where this is concerned.

Nobody would deny that men are the main perpetrators of sexual violence. Nobody would deny that white British men commit crimes of sexual violence.

But think the question many would like to see answered is whether men with an immigrant background - not just new immigrants - are more likely to commit sexual crimes than the indigenous population. If so, how much more likely? Is there any correlation between country of origin and sexual offending? Is there ny correlation between religion and sexual offending? The fact that no government wants to address these issues suggests to me that they know what the answer will be.

That’s a shame, if western values are worse then perhaps someone will say which are better.

In the meantime I’m glad my dc are here and not in various other countries. Others may disagree and prefer non western.

Yes and all these men are much older and dying out. I do believe that the younger generation (although not by any means perfect) are much better than this, and because of the changes in society the ways these men hid their crimes are less usable now.

The migrants coming in are very often from a sustained culture (which will continue as they do not believe it is wrong) that believe women have no value beyond what men want. These men are late teens and believe women deserve to be raped. I bet if you asked any young British lad, they would believe those views to be abhorrent.

The old white man culture will die out, the culture of these migrant men is coming and it will take over if something isn't done.

We cannot remove our home grown violent men, we CAN stop more joining them - but nobody in power seems brave enough to do so

Again, I did not say who is better or worse.

I also did not say I prefer non-Western countries.

I simply noted - we are not the bastions of sexual morality we pretend to be. We all produce sexually deviant men who cause great harm to women.

I really hope you are correct that young British boys are rejecting rape culture, and I hope none them have enrolled in the online Rape Academy or other incel groups that promote violence against women.
For my daughter's and other young women's sakes, I really do.

Sure. Let's run with that 🙄.

Men generally have stronger views and stronger aversion to women and children being abused / killed by men “not of our group” than men “in our group.”

Twas ever thus.

Men will always be more difficult to deal with and to limit crime by them than women but it’s an easy choice for me for which system is better for women and girls. I’d choose a western democracy any time.

Others may disagree, if anyone wants to say why if they do.

Unfortunately you're wrong in your beliefs about the younger generation. MVAWG is causing particular concern because its 'trending young'. 49% of teenagers in relationships report being victims of abuse, control and violence and Refuge describes a concerning rise in victims age 16-24. I think its highly unlikely these young women and girls were all in relationships with middle aged men.

So OP, the subject interested you enough to name change and start a thread about this, but not enough to return to it?

She didn't say Western values are worse. That's just inventing a point you can argue with.

Lol what? Is Andrew Tate old too then?

What is your proof that the UK raised rapists are old?

I agree. There are different attitudes to rape, privacy, harassment, sexual assault, etc in other parts of the world. The Left deny this because they’re not reasonable, sensible people. Those on the Left have various fixed ideas, and nothing will shift them. When reality contradicts their ideals, they deny reality, and then they get angry.

Also, the vast majority of so-called ‘refugees’ are young men. And they’re not the brightest and best. On the contrary, many are rootless drifters, others are criminals on the run.

White British men committing rape are still in the news.

As are white men of other heritage.

The Epstein files have been worldwide news for yonks.

@nomas I didn't say all UK raised rapists were old 🤷‍♀️ I originally quoted a comment talking about Donald Trump/Jeffrey Epstein/Jimmy Saville.

Correct me if I'm wrong, but yes in my opinion they are old 🤷‍♀️

So be explicit then, where would you prefer to be? I find it easy to answer, in a western democracy, how about you

You ask this question on every thread. It gets tedious.