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Why isn't there any mainstream media focus on British men rape who molest and rape, women and children? But just 'the boat people' ?! Evil/badness exists everywhere!

213 replies

Betchygreen · 23/04/2026 19:27

I'm an immigrant of white British/European descent and I saw a headline today in the mainstream media about 'rape meaning sex' pleaded according to asylum seekers who have recently tried at court for rape.

What's going on? If I had to report a (my) white British rapist, I really don't think it would've made headlines. Nor would've any other abuse. White Male British men seem to get off with impunity, or I know are ever accused and formally charged.

I feel it is a shocking abuse of power that only newcomers and brown skinned/other culture peoples are singled out.

Why is it that the UK remains so very much patriarchal and oppressive towards women and children? Why are we not centred in such as way that it as important for women and children to thrive in our society and culture as it is for men of any/whichever long standing class? Is it classicism or what is it? Explain it to me, I truly don't understand why it has to be like this other than those who get a rise out of feeling powerful and in control of others?

OP posts:
nomas · Yesterday 10:03

GCAcademic · Yesterday 07:44

It might be bleeding obvious but social media is currently full of white men carrying on as if only brown or black men have ever raped a woman.

Exactly. Do they think abuse by a man is somehow more acceptable if a white man does it? Absurd.

GETTINGLIKEMYMOTHER · Yesterday 10:11

Presumably because we have more than enough vile home-grown rapists/abusers (of whatever colour) without importing more, who will end up being a drain on the taxpayer and won’t be deported because of their human rights.

Megifer · Yesterday 10:17

nomas · Yesterday 09:59

tbf its white men who notice and tell them to fuck off/variation of.

This seems unlikely given the vast amount of abuse is committed by white men. Plus racist and anti-Semitic attacks too.

If it makes you feel better to think its unlikely thats absolutely fine.

5128gap · Yesterday 10:24

Because when a man who is not white British rapes or murders, it suits white British men to pretend it's his ethnicity, nationality or race that is the characteristic predisposing him to rape and murder rather than his sex.
Which is nonsense really, because if ethnicity, nationality and race rather than sex were the pertinent characteristics then you'd expect to see similar offending patterns in men AND women of other ethnicities. Yet funnily enough, across all races, ethnicity and nationality, the shared characteristic of the most violent heinous criminals is sex.

Quine0nline · Yesterday 10:31

It is interesting that this is reported in all forms of the mainstream media, not just the right wing papers. As much in the guardian and Independent as the daily mail, telegraph, sun and Star. As much as on BBC, sky or itv.

BlakeCarrington · Yesterday 10:33

nomas · 23/04/2026 21:07

No one is defending them. But funny how every thread is hijacked and taken over and becomes about grooming gangs.

Why don't you ever want to talk about what white rapists do? What about the white man called john Ashby who pleaded guilty this week to raping a Sikh woman in her home and calling her a 'fucking Muslim bitch?'

Well that was also all over the papers so people are talking about it, which kind of disproves your point.

nomas · Yesterday 10:34

5128gap · Yesterday 10:24

Because when a man who is not white British rapes or murders, it suits white British men to pretend it's his ethnicity, nationality or race that is the characteristic predisposing him to rape and murder rather than his sex.
Which is nonsense really, because if ethnicity, nationality and race rather than sex were the pertinent characteristics then you'd expect to see similar offending patterns in men AND women of other ethnicities. Yet funnily enough, across all races, ethnicity and nationality, the shared characteristic of the most violent heinous criminals is sex.

Nice to have a voice of reason on the thread.

nomas · Yesterday 10:35

BlakeCarrington · Yesterday 10:33

Well that was also all over the papers so people are talking about it, which kind of disproves your point.

No it doesn’t prove my point? When OP started her thread why didn’t you others talk about this John Ashby case that is literally in the courts this week?

nomas · Yesterday 10:38

Megifer · Yesterday 10:17

If it makes you feel better to think its unlikely thats absolutely fine.

Around 2000 women are raped by men in the UK every week. Nothing about that statistic should make anyone feel better.

Worralorra · Yesterday 10:40

You’re looking in the wrong places - a simple Google search used AI to return this from the ONS:

Specific, publicly available statistics that break down the exact number of White British men charged with rape in the UK for the most recent calendar year (2024–2025) are not explicitly published in consolidated national reports.
However, available data from the Ministry of Justice and the Crown Prosecution Service (CPS) provides the following context for England and Wales:
Overall Rape Charges: In the year 2023/24, the CPS charged 2,572 suspects with adult rape. In the 2024/25 period, 4,636 total suspects were charged with rape/sexual offences, marking an increase.
Ethnicity of Defendants: According to Statistics on Ethnicity and the Criminal Justice System 2024, for indictable offences, where ethnicity is known, 83% of defendants were White.
Recorded Offences: In the year ending December 2024, there were 71,227 police-recorded rape offences, with a charge rate of 2.7%.
GOV.UK +3
The Office for National Statistics (ONS) notes that they do not break down police-recorded crime by both ethnicity and specific offence type in their main releases, and caution that data on perpetrator characteristics is often based on victim surveys.
Office for National Statistics +1

Is 83% not damning enough for you?

MaturingCheeseball · Yesterday 10:45

But surely no sane person can think it’s ok to allow large numbers of undocumented men into a country. Every other schmuck has to trudge through passport control. These men could be rapists/murderers/petty or large-scale criminals - we just don’t know.

Do I like the idea of “home-grown” rapists? No - it’s horrible - but, as others have said, we can do nothing about their residency and, presumably, if they have a record that will make a difference in apprehending/sentencing them.

Megifer · Yesterday 10:52

nomas · Yesterday 10:38

Around 2000 women are raped by men in the UK every week. Nothing about that statistic should make anyone feel better.

Ive been raped, youre right it shouldnt, however I was replying to this completely different point:

Me - tbf its white men who notice and tell them to fuck off/variation of.

your reply to the above - This seems unlikely given the vast amount of abuse is committed by white men. Plus racist and anti-Semitic attacks too.

cantstopthinkingaboutit2 · Yesterday 11:01

A woman’s life has been ruined after being gang raped and this is your first thought and concern. Unbelievable.

It made the news as strangers gang raping a woman is actually pretty rare in this country these days. That would have made the news if they were white, black, green, blue.

MaturingCheeseball · Yesterday 11:06

And one of the men is on the run for murder in his home country.

5128gap · Yesterday 11:17

cantstopthinkingaboutit2 · Yesterday 11:01

A woman’s life has been ruined after being gang raped and this is your first thought and concern. Unbelievable.

It made the news as strangers gang raping a woman is actually pretty rare in this country these days. That would have made the news if they were white, black, green, blue.

Perhaps if when a woman had her life ruined other people's first thought wasnt how can this be used to further an anti immigration agenda..? the OPs thoughts would not have gone in this direction.
Either in the aftermath of yet another example of male on female violence, we keep our thoughts with the victim, or we make it about the race of the perpetrator. Which should it be? Because those who are always keen on the second would have a bit of a nerve trying to shame people merely joining that conversation from a different perspective.

Ninjasan · Yesterday 11:21

Betchygreen · 23/04/2026 19:27

I'm an immigrant of white British/European descent and I saw a headline today in the mainstream media about 'rape meaning sex' pleaded according to asylum seekers who have recently tried at court for rape.

What's going on? If I had to report a (my) white British rapist, I really don't think it would've made headlines. Nor would've any other abuse. White Male British men seem to get off with impunity, or I know are ever accused and formally charged.

I feel it is a shocking abuse of power that only newcomers and brown skinned/other culture peoples are singled out.

Why is it that the UK remains so very much patriarchal and oppressive towards women and children? Why are we not centred in such as way that it as important for women and children to thrive in our society and culture as it is for men of any/whichever long standing class? Is it classicism or what is it? Explain it to me, I truly don't understand why it has to be like this other than those who get a rise out of feeling powerful and in control of others?

Egyptian murderer from Brighton should not have been here! We cannot do much about British men but we can stop the lowest forms of men with cultural no regard for women being imported with no proper procedures of checking their background. Are you ok with that?

LetsBeWellBehaved · Yesterday 11:23

MaturingCheeseball · Yesterday 10:45

But surely no sane person can think it’s ok to allow large numbers of undocumented men into a country. Every other schmuck has to trudge through passport control. These men could be rapists/murderers/petty or large-scale criminals - we just don’t know.

Do I like the idea of “home-grown” rapists? No - it’s horrible - but, as others have said, we can do nothing about their residency and, presumably, if they have a record that will make a difference in apprehending/sentencing them.

This whole debate is so stupid. It’s like being in year 6 and having to explain per capita.

I know It’s not that people are defending the rapists, but it kind of does sound like that. “Dont look over here, look over there” kind of thing.

How has this whole thing become normalised. Are people seriously ok with these people being allowed to stay here (and at the expense of deserving refugees)?!

BlakeCarrington · Yesterday 11:24

nomas · Yesterday 10:35

No it doesn’t prove my point? When OP started her thread why didn’t you others talk about this John Ashby case that is literally in the courts this week?

I’ve only recently joined the thread and look at you and I discussing John Ashby on this very thread. Fancy that.

CmonBobby · Yesterday 11:26

It’s bad enough the amount of British men that abuse women and kids. But we all have a basic understanding that every society has a baseline measure of these men, sadly, and we accept it as part of life.
Let’s not import more though. That seems mental.
My garden has a certain natural level of slugs and snails which I battle with. Doesn’t mean I’m happy if the neighbour brings over buckets of slugs and snails to add to the situation.

1dayatatime · Yesterday 11:28

Dweetfidilove · Yesterday 09:12

Some day I'll make the time to discuss these Western values that produced the Epsteins, Weinsteins, Saville, Pelicots, Trumps and Mountbatten-Windsors of thos world.

Exactly the Taliban and the Iranian regime have far better attitudes and laws to women's rights and laws under Western Governments.

Maybe we could approach this in a more diverse and inclusive way by adopting the same Afghanistan and Iranian culture and law here in the West. That way newly arrived citizens would already be familiar with women's position and rights in society and they would be less likely to commit crimes.

ThatPoisedOtter · Yesterday 11:29

You know why.

EasternStandard · Yesterday 11:31

Dweetfidilove · Yesterday 09:12

Some day I'll make the time to discuss these Western values that produced the Epsteins, Weinsteins, Saville, Pelicots, Trumps and Mountbatten-Windsors of thos world.

Where are you thinking is better? Can you give an example.

nomas · Yesterday 11:33

BlakeCarrington · Yesterday 11:24

I’ve only recently joined the thread and look at you and I discussing John Ashby on this very thread. Fancy that.

Yep, I had to bring it up because no one else would. Shameful when OP’s thread was about why white rapists (which are the clear majority) aren’t discussed anymore.

nomas · Yesterday 11:35

Worralorra · Yesterday 10:40

You’re looking in the wrong places - a simple Google search used AI to return this from the ONS:

Specific, publicly available statistics that break down the exact number of White British men charged with rape in the UK for the most recent calendar year (2024–2025) are not explicitly published in consolidated national reports.
However, available data from the Ministry of Justice and the Crown Prosecution Service (CPS) provides the following context for England and Wales:
Overall Rape Charges: In the year 2023/24, the CPS charged 2,572 suspects with adult rape. In the 2024/25 period, 4,636 total suspects were charged with rape/sexual offences, marking an increase.
Ethnicity of Defendants: According to Statistics on Ethnicity and the Criminal Justice System 2024, for indictable offences, where ethnicity is known, 83% of defendants were White.
Recorded Offences: In the year ending December 2024, there were 71,227 police-recorded rape offences, with a charge rate of 2.7%.
GOV.UK +3
The Office for National Statistics (ONS) notes that they do not break down police-recorded crime by both ethnicity and specific offence type in their main releases, and caution that data on perpetrator characteristics is often based on victim surveys.
Office for National Statistics +1

Is 83% not damning enough for you?

Yep white rapists up and down the country must be laughing their heads off at how they commit 83% of the crimes but people only ever want to talk about the minority.

ladykale · Yesterday 11:36

Racism. That’s why