Can i actually be charged for this ??

[CannotActually]

My mother (I’ve been NC for years she has instructed DB to tell me) has informed me that when she dies

1. I will receive no inheritance (sister gets the house DB gets the money)
2. I will be expected to help clear the house for my sister to move in and if I don’t I will be charged a clearance / skip fee!

There’s no obligation for me to do this and they can’t charge me? Apparently if I refuse they’ll say it’s my stuff so I’m liable ???

Are they deliberately wanting to make you wait 48 hours ( so they can grab the best/most valuable items) before then informing uyou you have inherited the contents that are left ( ie leave the clean-up bill to you)?

The only things they could do within 48 hours is get a death certificate, but l very much doubt they would go one so quick. Even with a will, it still has to go to probate. After probate has been cleared can take upto 6-8 wks providing its straight forward, could be longer, depending what area you live in. After probate has cleared it , you can request on line a copy of the will for a small fee....So you will be able to see that what you have been told is truthful...This applies to England and Wales only...

The cost for this is against the estate, and as you aren’t benefiting from the estate then you are most definitely not liable. So they might ask for help but they certainly can’t charge you!

I'd be tempted to contest it, just to spite the ghost of your mother.

I'm sorry you got dealt such an awful hand in terms of family.

I wouldn't, she has poked the bear as she wants a response. I would just laughingly tell my brother he must be in the naughty corner too and that she can crack on with her plan because the executor will need to pay with monies from the estate to remove the items in dispute and that would mean he gets less money. AND SMILE like a Cheshire cat. Nothing more infuriating than someone that you are trying to upset smiling at you, and your brother could have stayed out of this and he chose not to.

Well they sound lovely. Surely just because it’s written in her will it doesn’t legally obligate you to do it? I could write in my will that I’d like my son to play for arsenal, doesn’t mean it’s going to happen.

Honestly it sounds like pure spite. If you aren’t getting anything from the will then why on earth should you be liable to sort out her house and belongings. She sounds utterly vile and full of spite.

sorry to hear you’re in this situation. I think that anything that’s been in your mother’s house for 6 months or more is legally hers. Yiu can phone /webchat etc citizens advice for free, or ask any solicitor for free 20-30 minute guidance on your situation.

@CannotActually I've been following your thread since yesterday, and having just re-read all your posts (and belatedly put my brain into gear), I can't help wondering whether there's a possibility that this news is not being relayed from your mother via your DB at all, but has in fact been cooked up between your two siblings. Your sister appears to be as toxic as your mother and your brother is enjoying his role in all this.

@CannotActually Re: the 48hr thing, do you think she's vindictive enough to want to try to "guilt" you/have some kind of perceived control over you, thinking it will get to you knowing she could be dead at any moment & you wouldn't necessarily know? Sounds like she's the kind of person who might do such a thing from the way I'm interpreting your posts 🤔

Sorry to hear you're having to deal with this, hope it all turns out well in the end 💐

Starting to understand why you’re NC!

Tell your DB to relay to her that you officially don’t consider any stuff in her possession yours and she’s free to destroy it if she likes. That way even if the (likely totally bullshit) stuff about it being “your” stuff will fall away!

Are you sure your brother is even telling you the truth?? He just wants a cleaner and help with the eventual house clearance!

You're NC for a reason, which should include messages. Tell DB and anyone else who might want to help her to get her last licks in, that you are not interested and not to pass on anymore messages.

Wrong thread 🤣🤣🤣🤣

I think the brother, who is to inherit the money, has a hand in this. He has realised that all expenses of the Estate will cut into his final share. His sister is inheriting the house and doesn’t want the contents so they have come up with a way of maximising his share. Brilliant scheme if they thought they could bully you into paying, but ridiculous to think it would actually work. I would reply to your brother that pigs may fly.

I think you should reply saying "OK, great, if all the stuff in the house is mine I'll come round tomorrow and clear it out for you".

I have not RTFT but in case nobody else has said it, if your so called mother put a clause in her will saying that she leaves you (say) the contents of the shed to try and force you to pay for skips, you can refuse the bequest, which would be perfectly legal.

Yes, quite a lot of people have mentioned that already. 🙂

Obviously it’s difficult to say when we don’t know the full story but as you are NC I would keep it that way. It sounds like a toxic relationship all round.

Glad to hear it, means OP must have seen it and hopefully is feeling reassured.

Hrft but my initial thought, as usual off the wall a bit ,is that she would actually like to see you and telling you she has some of your stuff is indirectly to encourage you to go and fetch it now while she's alive.

What you do about that train of thought, is of course, up to you..

She is trying to upset you, I think. Don't let her succeed. If you are to have no.inheritance from her then her death will be the end of it. You can't be coerced into anything like clearing the house because you have no involvement or ownership. And honestly, if your siblings don't tell you for 48 hours, does it matter?

This sounds like a toxic woman trying to wind you up. Don't give her the satisfaction of responding. She can only hurt you now if you let her. Stay strong!

Are they specifically talking about your teenage possessions that you've left there and they are storing for you, or are they referring to you doing a share of dejunking your parents' own hoarding detritus?

Legally, no bill can be enforced without evidence of agreement to pay. This is why car parks have to have clear notices displayed about penalty charges, otherwise they are unenforceable.

Put in writing to DB - "I have no contact with our parents due to a lifetime of emotional and physical abuse. I don’t want any inheritance from them, and their desire to punish me in this way after their death is entirely in character but they have no power over me. I do not agree to any such ridiculous charges for clearing their house, I have nothing to do with them or any of their possessions and any such costs will be solely the responsibility of their estate and their heirs. If you & sis were to attempt to enforce any such bill through the small claims process you will be laughed out of court, but I am sure you don't share the vindictive urge to punish me for having self respect so I don't expect it will come to that. No problem with waiting 48hrs to inform me when the time comes, that won't be important to me. Best wishes."

I can't imagine they can enforce this at all. It is not a contract you have signed but best to tell your brother now that you have no intention of helping and no intention of paying and maybe email that to him. I am sorry to are going through this it sounds awful.

Sounds like your brother is her flying monkey and the only tool she has left to hurt you with. Tbh id only communicate with hom via text if at all from now on. Make it clear you do no want to inherit anything and will not be helping or paying for anything. Also say you dont need to know about her health or death as she wasnt a mother to you just an abuser and if he continues to help her last continue her attempts at emotional abuse, you will be reconsidering your relationship with him too.

Do you have a printer? If so, I would print out all the feedback on here and post it with a request to COMPLETELY leave you alone now or you will go to solicitor to take out a restraining order to prevent any more poisonous contact and harassment. Good luck to you. Rise above it. You can choose your own family when it dont work out with natural family.