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I can’t stand my brother-in-law…and his abroad wedding…

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Thirls · 12/09/2025 09:24

Hello! I wanted some honest advice here. It’s a long one so buckle in if you have the time to help - thank you in advance 🩷

My BIL/SIL are insufferable, they will introduce themselves to strangers and within seconds will say how well off they are and are extremely entitled people. They also have serious tempers, very nasty and have screamed down the phone to us on many occasions - baring in mind they live on the other end of the country so we don’t see them often (thank god).

Anyway, they’re getting married abroad, they’ve given us just 11 months notice and it’s going to cost us £2k each to fly, stay, attend multiple gatherings including the wedding day. He’s having 4 stag dos, she’s having two - one of each are abroad too. We got married last year but it was local and never expected people to drop everything to attend, we know it’s a big ask and an expense, I was grateful if someone sent us a card honestly. They have not once acknowledged how much it costs for guests and have even told us that if we don’t stay the whole week for the wedding, then we shouldn’t go at all, and that goes for all the guests - their entitlement is rather clear now I think!

We have been going through fertility struggles this last year (who knew it was so difficult to make a baby!?) and I have been going through tests recently, so is my husband. Thankfully my test came back great so that was a massive relief - now just waiting on my husbands. I had an early loss in June sadly which led to a lot of pain, both physically and emotionally. And since then, it’s been a tough ride for me. I don’t feel comfortable at the thought of going abroad as I really do hope to be pregnant by then.

Now, I asked the SIL to be my bridesmaid last year, it just made sense as we’re family (sadly) and have to get along, so it was a safe choice. She’s now asked me to be one of her 9, which I knew she was just asking by default. She wants multiple gatherings, all of which are 4 hours drive away, and all she wants to do on a weekday. So as these are just planning/gatherings, they’re not hen dos, I said I would struggle to attend, but I specifically messaged her twice to say please don’t fuss about my availability and I’ll be supporting from afar and would love to see pictures of the night! I know from a brides perspective how difficult it is to get people together, and it’s expected one or two can’t make it…sadly, they don’t think the same.

I messaged SIL explaining that I couldn’t make the night she planned as we’ve booked a last minute holiday, it’s our last ditch attempt as I’ve timed it with my cycle, so I’ll be ovulating while we’re away, so I’m hoping being on holiday will help us conceive (that’s how I conceived earlier this year before the miscarriage). Yes, it’s a selfish thing to have booked it knowing she had this bridesmaid evening booked, I’m not making out I’m a saint here. But they don’t know our fertility struggles, and I don’t want them to know. But without them knowing, we probably are coming across as unreasonable.

So this is where I’m stuck (also this evening I am missing is just a bottle of wine and trying on some dresses, it’s not booked at a shop, she told everyone to buy their own dress and bring it with them to try on in front of everyone - it’s not a big thing in my opinion). She’s not replied and the brother in law called my husband saying awful things about me, I’ll never forgive him. I appreciate they don’t know what’s going on, but if they had just spoken to me directly and asked why we booked the holiday, rather than calling screaming down the phone and saying horrible things to me, I would have told them what’s going on.

So I’m in a pickle. Do I leave them to turn the whole family against me (I call them both the king and queen of England as literally they can do no wrong in the family’s eyes) and just don’t say anything, don’t attend the wedding etc. or do I just bite the bullet and tell them my deeply personal issues (not even my family know and they’re my world).

Sorry for the long message, please tell me what you would do? As I said, yes, booking the holiday after knowing the plans was selfish, I’m not going to deny it, but it’s not a hen do and I’m not buying a dress with my own money, driving 4 hours away to wear it in front of 9 people I don’t know, to be told that’s not the dress they’ll be picking…it’s not a big deal? Also one final thing, she’s been so incredibly rude to me the last year, and at the family Christmas meal she sat next to me and purposely turned her back so I couldn’t speak to her the whole meal. I was at the end of the table so I had no one else to speak with…so this has been an ongoing issue with her attitude with me for a long time now…this isn’t new!

OP posts:
Krenonges · 12/09/2025 20:24

I would have nothing to do with either of them again. Your DH can have a relationship with them if he wants but they sound horrendous

Marieb19 · 12/09/2025 20:27

I would contact/write to the sister in law and apologise for agreeing to be a bridesmaid, which you recognise you really can't commit to. I would also say that neither you not your DH can commit to being abroad and attending a set number of events. You don't need to tell them why. If any family members give you grief, I would be prepared to cut them lose to. Your DH needs to stand by you in doing this 100%.

Katflapkit · 12/09/2025 20:28

Get your DH to call his brother back and say you are so upset by all the names he called you and things he said about that YOU are pulling out of the wedding. You don't want to be a bridesmaid anymore. They have 11 months to get over it.

Your DH can go to the wedding on his own as you have uninvited yourself. You save on one ticket and a load of hen dos and trying on dress parties for someone you dont like and who sounds awful. Stick to it.

Dont worry what the family say. You hold your head up - don't let them push you around. Stand up for yourself. Also, you don't owe them your private life - if you having fertility treatment, keep your own. Don't add to your stress load.

Good luck OP

DuckbilledSplatterPuff · 12/09/2025 20:31

I don't agree that the OP has lost the moral highground by refusing the Dress session. SIL and BIL lost the moral high ground when they phoned up and screamed down the phone at OP and her DH.

OP.. Just . Stop. People . Pleasing. Especially people who are nasty to you.
You don't have to put up with it.

SIL turned her back to you throughout Christmas Dinner and NOBODY SAID ANYTHING. She and BIL have bad mouthed you and said horrible things about you. This is all acceptable behaviour in DH's family. Except it isn't

You say "his family will take their side whatever the case"
So basically they will all treat you like shit whatever you do.
Therefore you have nothing to lose from digging your heels in.
Ask yourself "What is the worst that can happen?".

  1. They can scream and shout about it.
  2. They can badmouth you to all DH's relatives
  3. SIL can turn her back on you and ignore you at a family dinner.

Oh hang on ... they've already done that!
If you are describing their behaviour accurately, they will keep providing hoops for you to jump through, and berating you for not jumping high enough. Do you want to let them carry on, because they will only get worse.

Chose now whether you are prepared to put up with this behaviour or not. Or face years of misery trying hard to be nice to abusive egotists.

Do you want to see your future children watching you being treated like this.. or also being treated like this by these apparent monsters?

Message them and drop out of being bridesmaid.. Hopefully they will get the hump and you won't have to go to the damn wedding either. Don't tell them anything personal about you and IVF ( you think this is a great excuse, but as you say in your post they will be really nasty about it. In fact don't give any personal information to nasty people. Don't apologise and don't give a list of excuses).

Live your own life and leave them to theirs. Let the cards fall where they may.
You will find when they can't be monsters to you, they will starting being monsters to others in the family and it will soon start to backfire.
Send your DH to therapy.

Or spend the next 30 years putting up with marriage wrecking behaviour as you both desperately try to keep the family peace from a family that thrives on fighting.

TiaKofi · 12/09/2025 20:31

They’re “loaded” yet making bridesmaids pay for their own dresses… All fur coat no knickers me thinks

DuckbilledSplatterPuff · 12/09/2025 20:32

PopcornKitten · 12/09/2025 20:21

As someone who is no contact with my in laws and has learnt later in life that it is ok to say no here are my thoughts-

  1. Dont tell them your fertility struggles. This is personal info that makes you vulnerable and only people you trust need to know this.
  2. No is a full sentence. You don’t have to give reasons for not wanting to do something. We do this so we don’t look bad especially if we’re people pleasers. Often people will try and work around your reasons.
  3. people will think what they want of you no matter what you do. The key is to let them. Easier said than done. Your Bil/sil will think what they want no matter what you say.
  4. your husband and you need to show a united front. The family he creates (you and any future children) are his priority not his family of origin. you will save yourself a lot drama heartache and stress (none of which is helpful when you are trying to conceive) if you can set your boundaries and find your voices now.

Excellent advice.

ReadingSoManyThreads · 12/09/2025 20:37

Definitely do NOT tell them about your fertility issues/trying for a baby. You WILL regret telling them. It's NONE of their business and they will not suddenly start being nice to you if they know.

Secondly, I'd step down from being a bridesmaid, you clearly don't like her and they both sound like dreadful people.

Thirdly, you don't "have to get on" with someone just because they are "family". They are barely family to you anyway.

Fourthly, I wouldn't spend thousands attending their wedding, little mind all of these ridiculous other events, so I'd just not go. Your DH can go on his own to keep his own relations good with his own family. You owe them nothing.

But I mean it, do not tell them your vulnerabilities, I made that mistake and I still regret it 20 years later.

Gagaandgag · 12/09/2025 20:41

ExtraOnions · 12/09/2025 09:32

So … if we strip this down:

You don’t like your in-laws
She asked you to be a Bridesmaid, which you accepted
There was a Bridesmaid meeting you had agreed to go to
You have now booked a holiday instead, so can’t go
She’s pissed off with you

I’m not surprised she’s pissed off, you’ve not said it’s because you are trying for a baby ( will where you have sex really make a difference?), it just looks like you have blown her out for a jolly.

The rest of the post is just “noise” to post her in the worst light, and you in the best … so you can get the validation of strangers that you are not being unreasonable.

It’s another of those posts where someone has already decided they are not being unreasonable, so constructs a narrative to make themselves feel better.

👏

PirateDays · 12/09/2025 20:42

Personally I'd pull out of being a bridesmaid and use the excuse that you're sorry to have accepted and let her down but you didn't realise how many gatherings/hens would be involved and you just can't afford it.

However, depending on what your husband thinks, I would plan on attending the wedding. By the sounds of your BIL and SIL, if either of you don't attend their wedding then that's the relationship over, and it sounds like it could potentially have repercussions with the rest of the family too...how does your husband feel about that?

I understand that many will say who cares and just don't go, but often family relationships are a bit more complicated than that, and I'm assuming your husband still wants his brother in his life and doesn't want to rock the boat with his entire family by not attending his wedding. Even 'normal' siblings can create family feuds over weddings not being attended, let alone ones who are already obviously very highly strung.

IAmQuiteNiceActually · 12/09/2025 20:44

ExtraOnions · 12/09/2025 09:32

So … if we strip this down:

You don’t like your in-laws
She asked you to be a Bridesmaid, which you accepted
There was a Bridesmaid meeting you had agreed to go to
You have now booked a holiday instead, so can’t go
She’s pissed off with you

I’m not surprised she’s pissed off, you’ve not said it’s because you are trying for a baby ( will where you have sex really make a difference?), it just looks like you have blown her out for a jolly.

The rest of the post is just “noise” to post her in the worst light, and you in the best … so you can get the validation of strangers that you are not being unreasonable.

It’s another of those posts where someone has already decided they are not being unreasonable, so constructs a narrative to make themselves feel better.

Oh come on! Who in their right mind would expect someone to travel that distance to try on a dress? It all sounds completely bonkers.

It's not just noise...it's to illustrate what a cow the SIL is. You've just gone out of your way to invalidate the PP because you for some reason think she doesn't deserve validation.

MyLittleNest · 12/09/2025 20:52

You have to stop caring that it will be their word against yours and simply do what is best for you. Ultimately, they will still find fault and it will be their word anyway. With people like this, you can never win. So instead of trying to beat them at their game, just stop playing.

This relationship will never be a healthy one and so you are wasting your energy even trying. Also, when you do bring a child into this world, do you really want this kind of toxicity around them?

I think your SIL only asked you to be a bridesmaid out of duty, the same reason you asked her. The only reason she has to get upset for you missing this party is out of sheer entitlement. It's not about wishing you were there.

Under no conditions would I be a bridesmaid. You can't win. You have your own personal situation to deal with, and the wedding itself is not convenient.

You could play along one more time and send a note, maybe along with flowers to they can't complain too much (but it sounds like they will find reason all the same): "SIL, I was so touched to be included in your wedding, but due to some personal issues I'm dealing with at the moment, it won't be fair of me to commit to such an important role, so I'll bow out now and wish you all the very best!"

OR, you can have your husband tell his brother that he's out of line and that neither of you will be participating in or attending the wedding as a result of his unforgivable insults and uncalled for overreaction.

Sadly, they seem so self-absorbed I doubt they will even notice that the world doesn't revolve around their wedding. Under no conditions would I give them any further details. The less they know about you, the better.

IridiumSky · 12/09/2025 20:57

What a load of nonsense. How some people live.

With the vulgar showing off about wealth I suspect a cultural element here.

Are you going to tell us OP? It’s highly relevant.

Shutupkeith · 12/09/2025 21:04

OP won't be back.

Ijustwantyouto · 12/09/2025 21:18

You sound very bitter and jealous, comparing their choice of wedding to yours.

Surely, if you had what you wanted and they have too…all is well.

Be satisfied.

Nacknick · 12/09/2025 21:25

Why on earth did you agree to be a bridesmaid in the first place??

rainbowsandraspberrygin · 12/09/2025 21:25

Just say that due to the awful phone call you don’t think it’s right that you’re a bridesmaid. Say that you’ll leave them to it. End of.

atinydropofcherrysherry · 12/09/2025 21:36

I read only few lines. I don't live in a world where people pay 1000s to just attend someone's wedding given they even don't like the people and think they are toxic, filthy rich losers, who have got nothing but money to brag about , so won't be giving you advice. Really? Do you need to ask an advice. It is not your relative, he is still not even married to your husband, he is no one to you nor her. Protect your sanity and pocket

RampantIvy · 12/09/2025 21:43

Ijustwantyouto · 12/09/2025 21:18

You sound very bitter and jealous, comparing their choice of wedding to yours.

Surely, if you had what you wanted and they have too…all is well.

Be satisfied.

No she doesn't.

KeenGreen · 12/09/2025 21:50

Regardless of the meeting up to try on a dress 4 hours away which you have to buy?! Which is bizarre, and you shouldn’t have agreed and back tracked. That would be annoying for all.

But what is absolutely unreasonable is the destination wedding £2K EACH?!?! For £4K for you. PLUS hen dos and stag dos..

I dread to think how much you’ll spend in total for these inconsiderate and ungrateful sods.
I would be declining all the wedding and saying it’s not affordable / where you want to spend your money and you’ll join a celebration in the UK should they wish to have one

CarpetKnees · 12/09/2025 22:59

Oh come on! Who in their right mind would expect someone to travel that distance to try on a dress? It all sounds completely bonkers.

I can't help thinking most of us would like to see our bridesmaids together in their dresses, before the wedding. Hmm

Daygloboo · 12/09/2025 23:27

IridiumSky · 12/09/2025 20:57

What a load of nonsense. How some people live.

With the vulgar showing off about wealth I suspect a cultural element here.

Are you going to tell us OP? It’s highly relevant.

Edited

What do you mean by cultural element ?

BlaBlaBlaBlaBlaBlaBlaBlaBlaBla · 13/09/2025 00:50

You should have said no to being a bridesmaid. And you shouldn’t have booked a holiday when you’d already agreed to other plans. You can have sex in any old bed.

Phoenixfire1988 · 13/09/2025 09:48

Thirls · 12/09/2025 09:34

@Mugfills thank you for your reply! He doesn’t want the brother to know as he knows they could potentially turn our fertility issues into another reason to be nasty to us - yes, he’s that horrible. He won’t lose his relationship with his brother and has tried to protect me from many things, but wasn’t expecting the screaming call.

Ultimately he said I shouldn’t be a bridesmaid if I don’t want to be, but if I drop out it’ll be my word against theirs how the conversation goes, so his family will take their side whatever the case. He’s saying to leave it for now until they turn round to me and outright tell me I’m uninvited…

Start recording the phone calls and any correspondence! Drop out and don't go to the wedding if they try to turn ot on you I'd create a group chat post the phone calls and tell them all to F off if they support that kind of behaviour . The rest of the family must know what they're like so I suspect they aren't really nice people anyway are they any loss to you ?
Enjoy your holiday and hopefully being stress free relaxing on a beach helps you get pregnant

mummybearSW19 · 13/09/2025 10:00

Your DH needs to man up. Tell them. Tell them it is private but they have forced your hand. nothing to lose now.

Allergictoironing · 13/09/2025 10:24

I can't help thinking most of us would like to see our bridesmaids together in their dresses, before the wedding.

Sure we would. But to expect people to go out & buy a dress beforehand (which they have to pay for) and go all that distance with the potential of being told "no that one is no good, buy another (at your own expense)"? Then presumably return with fingers crossed to see if the new one fits in OK?

However much guidance you give on what you want to see your bridesmaids wear, you could only be sure they get it "right" if you dictate the actual dress - just how many shades of say, purple are there, how many different round neck shapes, or one shoulder, or "midi" etc? So surely the sensible thing to do would be send photos or do a video call before the bridesmaids go out & spend a fortune on something they wouldn't wear normally that you don't end up liking.

Plus if every single aspect of this wedding means all 9(!) bridesmaids need to get together to have a show and tell or discuss things, this could well be the last straw for some. Possibly OK for those who live in a close area, but a 4 hour trip every single time??