To think most men are filthy losers

[fightbackorriseabove]

I'm going through the menopause, so have a low libido at the moment, which might explain my disgust. I don't know. I didn't use to be a prude, but I'm feeling more and more annoyed these days by men and their general behaviour.

I have a few male friends who, to varying degrees, always manage to slip in an innuendo or even an outright sexual remark. And out of politeness, or not wanting to cause a scene, I smile or roll my eyes in jest. I can only think of one occasion when I told a bloke to stop, and he REALLY took the hump. This was a married man who pursued me, but then said he was just joking and that I took myself too seriously. In fact, he got very angry.

I have lots of personal issues at the moment. Mad stuff. One of these issues lead to me googling my ex.

Well, the filth I found was disturbing. Men, thousands of them, masturbating online. I can only think they're doing it in front of each other. Becsuse there can't be many women wanting to sit and watch them. Surely? My ex was one of them.

I'm not talking about Only Fans where people pay. I'm talking about sex webcam stuff where men seem to just be filming themselves wanking. And watching each other. I don't even think it's gay. These are heterosexual men doing it for free. All ages.

Maybe I'm naïve.

But it's been a real eye opener for me.

I always knew men watched porn. But sitting there filming themselves and watching each other. It's madness.

I really do think that we, as women, spend our time worrying, working, caring, thinking, planning... and men just do the stuff thry have to do and then go back to messing with themselves or pestering women. Including their wives. And they keep having to up the limit because they can't get excited uness it's something really vile.

How many of us have felt obliged to have sex with a man, a partner, to avoid his anger, sulking, grumpiness. We've chosen sex as the lesser of two evils when we didn't want it.

It's not a human right, is it? They need to calm the fuck down.

Maybe I'm being unreasonable and grumpy, but I just think most of them ming.

All of us or some of us?

I saw a huge numbers of accounts of abusive behaviour from men against women. Did you see that as well? Should the beautiful men be at all ashamed?

Unfortunately sometimes it's necessary to discuss how vile some men are. It does no good at all to try to gloss over it. And as I've said, all the men I know are decent, good, strong men. That doesn't change the fact that many men aren't. If it hurts you so much to think about it then maybe you ought to go elsewhere instead of trying to shut down discussion of the reality that many women experience.

In fact why don't you read back and report the specific comments instead.

Forgive my being blunt, but this is ridiculous! Have neither of you read the rest of the posts? If the OP is so wrong, why does almost every contributor to the thread agree with her?

I haven't been able to read the whole thread but would say that from what I've observed over my lifetime that most men disgust me, sadly. I know my partner watches porn and most probably has done throughout our relationship even though he knows I disagree with it. He also told me about a mate of his who slept with another woman the night before his wedding..!! Men are so entitled it's mind boggling.

Imagine if the tables were turned and a man posted something similar about women. There would be an uproar.

They are charming creatures, arent they. I once said as one, a brick shithouse on a bike shot past me with barely a piece of paper between us, to mind his distance.

His response: "Suck my dick".

NAMALT. But huge percentage terms: pretty much always a MAN.

Speak up against them and draw their ire like a thermo-nuclear bomb.

There's no equivalence so no, that doesn't hold any validity. Shut your eyes and shout lala but it doesn't change the reality that many men behave horrifically.

If I think about the men I work with, I would say one is a creep and says inappropriate things which I just tell him to stop being a twat. My boss is a nice guy but can be misogynistic and old fashioned.

The rest I don't find offensive, awful or filthy. I get on really well with them. The youngest I did lecture him about why there should be women only spaces.

I've had an abusive ex when I was younger but I've ended up marrying my best friend. He is lovely.

My DH does have a high sex drive and has hinted in the past if he didn't think we were having sex much. He's never pressured me though and I still find him attractive. And enjoy it.

Maybe, I just got lucky.

Imagine??? Imagine??? 🤣 Who needs to imagine. I see endless online abuse from men towards women. Have you somehow missed this? Also, to be clear, I don’t think this thread is abusive towards men. It’s a sad account of reality for many women.

I also think there would be uproar if women and girls perpetrated the same levels of violence including sexual violence against men as men do against women and girls. Can you fucking imagine that?

Edited to clarify my position on this thread.

I don't hate men. I'm not the OP.

It's a given that individual posts on here are the opinion of the individual poster.

Welcome to forums on the internet.

Then you should thank your lucky stars. Not imply that women simply enjoying sex and talking about it and/ or their relationship experiences are disgusting or in any way equivalent to the sorts of horrific behaviours men indulge in.

Disgusting comment.

Forgive my being blunt, but this is ridiculous! Have neither of you read the rest of the posts? If the OP is so wrong, why does almost every contributor to the thread agree with her?

Read it yes. Agree with her no- and neither do many other posters.
Have you indeed read all their posts?
Some actually say her whole thread ought to be deleted because it's so extreme and anti-men.

However, if you think that it's normal behaviour for a male neighbour to tell you he heard you masturbating or another keep referring to 'pussies' in messages to you, [that you don't block] you must live in a strange world.

There are some truly deranged and unstable women on this site.

@Muffinmam
Your post is really shocking. He sounds abusive and controlling and it sounds like an awful situation to be in.
I really hope you have the strength and wherewithal to make plans to separate from him. No one should experience living like this.
Wishing you better circumstances very soon.

What do you want me to say? I'm pointing it out as being something that, indeed, shouldn't be normal behaviour. But these are real, genuine things that have happened to me. And this thread has a lot of posters describing similar and worse things?

I don't hate all men. I'm a heterosexual woman. I enjoy male company. I have a wonderful brother-in-law, male friends, and nephews. You're missing the point of my thread.

Women should be able to discuss their experiences without being called man-haters or being blamed for them.

All I'm doing is bringing up some concerns and asking other people if they agree or not. If you don't that's fine. That's the whole point, isn't it? We get to talk about these matters on an anonymous forum.

SOME men not most men!
I know a few men (partners of friends who have had affairs) but I also know a couple of women who have. I also know three women aged 38-60 who just want sex from men and nothing else. They use tinder and only fans etc. If men want to take them on dates or form relationships, they’re rude to them!

My husband is lovely and caring and thoughtful as are many of my friends husbands and men in my family.

It’s not just men remember… it’s people!! Some are bloody weird! Let’s look at the likes of Bonnie Blue and Lily Phillips. Sex obsessed. Taking advantage of 18 year old virgins whose brains can’t necessarily quite grasp the concept of the consequences down the line of filmed loveless sex with a random woman who shags anyone and anything who also can’t prove the STI status of all those she sleeps with!

I also think there would be uproar if women and girls perpetrated the same levels of violence including sexual violence against men as men do against women and girls. Can you fucking imagine that?

Yes, and rightly so, of course. The fact that there isn't is strongly indicative of how vanishingly rare it is for women to display such behaviours. It simply doesn't happen.

Mind you I'm not sure whether that will be the case for much longer. As I said, we're into a dark age for humanity and I think it will only get much, much worse.

Yeah, but the flipside is greedy women on the take. There's a current thread in AIBU where the OP shares custody 50/50 with the father. She already gets both child benefit payments but has now decided to go for maintenance too having found out how much her ex-h is earning.

Custody is 50/50 and she admitted the father has had the kids for more days than her this year. He's put in a claim for child benefit (presumably to stop her presenting herself as the primary carer) and she's furiously indignant about it although he's done the majority of the childcare and never complained about her having both CB payments.

I see this shit from a lot of women. Even if marriage means assets are now shared, I think I'd feel grabby walking away with far more than I'd ever have earnt on my own.

Although I totally agree about lazy men. Would never entertain some fat lump kicking back on the sofa whilst I did all the housework. No fucking way!

Depressing....

, I think I'd feel grabby walking away with far more than I'd ever have earnt on my own.

So those women who agree to step back from paid work for the benefit of the family should be penalised for it if the marriage ends?!

There is a delicious irony in your post…

I've never known any men like this and none of my female friends are with men like this (and yes, I'd know.) @LovelyLuluu men can put on a show you know

They do. All the time. They even make podcasts on it and some make a name from themselves from misogyny.