To think most men are filthy losers

[fightbackorriseabove]

I'm going through the menopause, so have a low libido at the moment, which might explain my disgust. I don't know. I didn't use to be a prude, but I'm feeling more and more annoyed these days by men and their general behaviour.

I have a few male friends who, to varying degrees, always manage to slip in an innuendo or even an outright sexual remark. And out of politeness, or not wanting to cause a scene, I smile or roll my eyes in jest. I can only think of one occasion when I told a bloke to stop, and he REALLY took the hump. This was a married man who pursued me, but then said he was just joking and that I took myself too seriously. In fact, he got very angry.

I have lots of personal issues at the moment. Mad stuff. One of these issues lead to me googling my ex.

Well, the filth I found was disturbing. Men, thousands of them, masturbating online. I can only think they're doing it in front of each other. Becsuse there can't be many women wanting to sit and watch them. Surely? My ex was one of them.

I'm not talking about Only Fans where people pay. I'm talking about sex webcam stuff where men seem to just be filming themselves wanking. And watching each other. I don't even think it's gay. These are heterosexual men doing it for free. All ages.

Maybe I'm naïve.

But it's been a real eye opener for me.

I always knew men watched porn. But sitting there filming themselves and watching each other. It's madness.

I really do think that we, as women, spend our time worrying, working, caring, thinking, planning... and men just do the stuff thry have to do and then go back to messing with themselves or pestering women. Including their wives. And they keep having to up the limit because they can't get excited uness it's something really vile.

How many of us have felt obliged to have sex with a man, a partner, to avoid his anger, sulking, grumpiness. We've chosen sex as the lesser of two evils when we didn't want it.

It's not a human right, is it? They need to calm the fuck down.

Maybe I'm being unreasonable and grumpy, but I just think most of them ming.

Before reliable birth control -the pill - women had to be so careful as you can’t hide a pregnancy for king. Men in the other hand could remain anonymous and unfettered by the burden of out of marriage baby. Women had a stronger need to suppress their desires. It has always been loaded against us imo

I don't hate men, but I want little to do with them. I don't trust them, I fear them sometimes. Generally speaking, I don't like them very much. I am happier when they aren't around. There are scads of women like me. And how do we demonstrate this distaste? We swerve them. We remove ourselves from their presence when we can. We get on with our lives. But plenty of men hate women, actually loathe us. And how do they demonstrate this? They rape us, assault us, stalk us, murder us, skinwalk us. Let's suppose there are women who actually have the energy to hate men. I really don't think anyone would notice!

This. Absolutely this.

I am sure my mil thought she was raising a decent man. She didn’t. I don’t blame her. He is just an utter cunt of a person.

I swerve men too. But I am now in my fifties and they are all interested in women 20 years my junior so it’s easy to avoid them. All the best to them all.

But I bet more and more women just wise up to men and younger and younger women too.

If I was a young woman today, I would look at the numbers of men demanding to engage in all kinds of sexual practices that were once unthinkable or considered borderline abusive, I would look at the stats for hardcore porn use, at the numbers of seemingly nice respectable men caught with child rape images, and I'd probably think 'swerve', too. Unfortunately it's nearly impossible for individuals to live alone and independently now due to housing costs, or I'd imagine there would be a lot more single and separated women.

Absolutely right.
I fear young women are becoming trapped again as I was in the 70's.

I don’t think most men are from single parent families. They are equally raised by their fathers too.

I was just thinking this today, if women were in charge, everything would just get done. No drama. World peace, the lot… Men could just sit in a room, happy. And wanking, it seems.

@JHound I wasn't saying I thought most men were raised in single parent families, but that women still do most of the child rearing. I believe that's true. Mothers do more in terms of raising children in general than men do.

If anyone is involved in shaping future men we need to consider the role that we mothers play. I'm not attributing blame to women because I don't hold with the OP's claim.

Women do most of the drudge work. It’s not correct to say women do most of the modelling of behaviours. And if they are then fathers are even more to blame for how their sons turn out by not intervening with their wife’s shitty parenting.

The modelling of behaviours is coming from the internet. Truly the devil’s work…

@JHound you may call it drudge work. Others call it the rearing of children, including boys. But if women are carrying out shitty parenting and the men should be intervening, then naturally women should be intervening with men's shitty parenting. This is really just trying to shift responsibility but as I have said, I don't hold with the OP's claim in any case..

Yes an attempt to “shift the blame” by the person who tried to blame women (in this case mothers) for a man’s choice to be a terrible person.

@JHound life is too short for this back and forth. I don't think I blamed women for a man's choice to be a terrible person. I have pointed out that women do most child rearing . These are not the same.

I won't reply to your next post. I get little satisfaction from arguing with random internet dudes. Feel free to say what you will. Once again, I do not hold with the OP's claim.

That is blaming women for a man’s choice to be a terrible person. Children have two parents that model behaviour - mothers AND fathers. But as adults who they are is a choice to make. Blaming mothers for how they rear them is tired misogyny.

And I’m not a man.

I am in a fudge of cognitive dissonance. I’m in my early 50s and I haven’t had a boyfriend or sex since 2017. I absolutely loathe being around men. Even without all the perverts and rapists and nonces, I just cannot bear the constant thrumming of their loudness, the laughing at their own basic level jokes, the posturing. BUT I have a 16 year old son who I love fiercely with all that is in me.

How do I hold all this at once? Why do I hold all this at once? I don’t really know how to answer it.

Well they are on here aren't they. On a male forum if there were threads saying women should be sterilised ( comparing parallels with the men should be castrated comment from one poster) and most are vile, it would be called out for misogyny yet men are fair game on here. The excuses are just a tirade of nonsense about incels etc but what it amounts to are bitter enraged feminists who think all men are bastards bar the DH, DS and all the other dears who happen to be male.

The OP is quite amusing though who masquerades as a well educated intellectual yet seems to have chosen perverted degenerates as partners. Talk about delusions of grandeur - probably angry at her own shit life choices. It's not surprising male suicides particularly young males are through the roof with the toxic threads like this. This forum may cater predominantly for women but it's supposedly a parents forum yet gets away with abuse off the scale for a human being based purely on what chromosomes they have. As others have said, replace male with anything else and it would be deemed bigotry but these vile threads thrive on here.

@TrishM80 · 07/09/2025 22:01
Why don't you just form a women's only island, OP?

We had a massive fight to try to keep men out of women’s sport. Men feel entitled to our spaces - if we had a women’s only island the men would be donning offensive wigs and makeup and demanding they be allowed entry.

Yeah. Funny but sadly true...

@Robogob , genuine question, have you tried to talk to your son about this ? Perhaps you could give it a try.

I've been on mumsnet for over a decade but this might be the worst thread I've seen in all that time. Page one posters talking about castrating men and it actually still managed to go downhill from that completely unacceptable awfulness.

AIBU has always been a robust discussion and pretty blunt, fine. But there are shitty human beings in every group and the level of hate here is astonishing.

Grim isn't it @Lasttraintolondon There are a lot of very bitter women out there. I honestly don't get the man-hating rhetoric. Don't these people have sons, brothers, dads....

Agreed. It's very “They’re bringing drugs. They’re bringing crime. They’re rapists. And some, I assume, are good people.” I think it's completely valid to talk about issues like male violence, sexual abuse, etc. But this thread is awful and I can only imagine these posters for some reason don't know any ordinary decent men, even in their own family, or they wouldn't be quite so keen to demonise 50% of the world's population.

Jeez whats the obsession with incest and teenage porn 😂

I agree. How can anyone carry this much hatred around with them? It must be exhausting. And so difficult to get through every single day if you feel this level of hatred for the men in your family and social circle.

you are just projecting flagrant msyandry and discrimination. Totally appalling.