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To think most men are filthy losers

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fightbackorriseabove · 07/09/2025 18:05

I'm going through the menopause, so have a low libido at the moment, which might explain my disgust. I don't know. I didn't use to be a prude, but I'm feeling more and more annoyed these days by men and their general behaviour.

I have a few male friends who, to varying degrees, always manage to slip in an innuendo or even an outright sexual remark. And out of politeness, or not wanting to cause a scene, I smile or roll my eyes in jest. I can only think of one occasion when I told a bloke to stop, and he REALLY took the hump. This was a married man who pursued me, but then said he was just joking and that I took myself too seriously. In fact, he got very angry.

I have lots of personal issues at the moment. Mad stuff. One of these issues lead to me googling my ex.

Well, the filth I found was disturbing. Men, thousands of them, masturbating online. I can only think they're doing it in front of each other. Becsuse there can't be many women wanting to sit and watch them. Surely? My ex was one of them.

I'm not talking about Only Fans where people pay. I'm talking about sex webcam stuff where men seem to just be filming themselves wanking. And watching each other. I don't even think it's gay. These are heterosexual men doing it for free. All ages.

Maybe I'm naïve.

But it's been a real eye opener for me.

I always knew men watched porn. But sitting there filming themselves and watching each other. It's madness.

I really do think that we, as women, spend our time worrying, working, caring, thinking, planning... and men just do the stuff thry have to do and then go back to messing with themselves or pestering women. Including their wives. And they keep having to up the limit because they can't get excited uness it's something really vile.

How many of us have felt obliged to have sex with a man, a partner, to avoid his anger, sulking, grumpiness. We've chosen sex as the lesser of two evils when we didn't want it.

It's not a human right, is it? They need to calm the fuck down.

Maybe I'm being unreasonable and grumpy, but I just think most of them ming.

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Winelondon · 04/11/2025 09:34

Robogob · 02/11/2025 19:01

I am in a fudge of cognitive dissonance. I’m in my early 50s and I haven’t had a boyfriend or sex since 2017. I absolutely loathe being around men. Even without all the perverts and rapists and nonces, I just cannot bear the constant thrumming of their loudness, the laughing at their own basic level jokes, the posturing. BUT I have a 16 year old son who I love fiercely with all that is in me.

How do I hold all this at once? Why do I hold all this at once? I don’t really know how to answer it.

you are just a man hater - end of. Personally posts like yours should be banned from any public forum.

OutsideLookingOut · 04/11/2025 09:47

Winelondon · 04/11/2025 09:32

you are just projecting flagrant msyandry and discrimination. Totally appalling.

I’m sure most of us would take this over being raped, murdered, assaulted, etc etc. if that poster hates men and stays away from them it sounds good to me!

MyAmusedPearlSquid · 04/11/2025 10:03

Well first off not all men are like described on this thread

My dh certainly isnt a sex pest or like anything else you've described bizzare you have this opinion on men 🤔

The13thFairy · 04/11/2025 11:10

Winelondon · 04/11/2025 09:34

you are just a man hater - end of. Personally posts like yours should be banned from any public forum.

Comprehension problems? Or just a knee-jerk reaction? How people behave, how they treat other people is the important thing. There are indeed women who haven't got anything good to say about men in general. There are marauding bands of women out on New Year's Eve, surrounding random men and subjecting them to mass sexual assault - it happens so often there's a word for it - taharrush. Women wank themselves silly over images of men being strangled, raped and beaten up. They - oh, no - hang on! They keep themselves to themselves - quelle horreur!

NimblePlayer · 04/11/2025 15:05

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Winelondon · 05/11/2025 11:28

The13thFairy · 04/11/2025 11:10

Comprehension problems? Or just a knee-jerk reaction? How people behave, how they treat other people is the important thing. There are indeed women who haven't got anything good to say about men in general. There are marauding bands of women out on New Year's Eve, surrounding random men and subjecting them to mass sexual assault - it happens so often there's a word for it - taharrush. Women wank themselves silly over images of men being strangled, raped and beaten up. They - oh, no - hang on! They keep themselves to themselves - quelle horreur!

I dont have comprehension problems - but you are tarring every man with the same brush whether you like it or not. Its like watching say a woman struggling to park her car and saying all women are bad drivers. If you cant see the obvious it will be nigh on impossible to educate you on this.

Winelondon · 05/11/2025 11:29

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Who said most women are being raped, murdered and assaulted? Why make an argument up and get angry at it?

The fact is that more women are raped, murdered and assaulted by men than other women (the same goes for other men too). If a woman wants to avoid men that is her right as long as she is not hurting them. No one is saying all men (or all women) are bad but they also do not know which ones are bad.

fightbackorriseabove · 06/11/2025 07:29

ThatJadeMaker · 03/11/2025 00:55

Well they are on here aren't they. On a male forum if there were threads saying women should be sterilised ( comparing parallels with the men should be castrated comment from one poster) and most are vile, it would be called out for misogyny yet men are fair game on here. The excuses are just a tirade of nonsense about incels etc but what it amounts to are bitter enraged feminists who think all men are bastards bar the DH, DS and all the other dears who happen to be male.

The OP is quite amusing though who masquerades as a well educated intellectual yet seems to have chosen perverted degenerates as partners. Talk about delusions of grandeur - probably angry at her own shit life choices. It's not surprising male suicides particularly young males are through the roof with the toxic threads like this. This forum may cater predominantly for women but it's supposedly a parents forum yet gets away with abuse off the scale for a human being based purely on what chromosomes they have. As others have said, replace male with anything else and it would be deemed bigotry but these vile threads thrive on here.

'Masquerading as an intellectuel.' Brilliant.
Look out for my book, 'All Men are Filthy Losers' coming out soon.

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Petitchat · 06/11/2025 08:06

ThatJadeMaker · 03/11/2025 00:55

Well they are on here aren't they. On a male forum if there were threads saying women should be sterilised ( comparing parallels with the men should be castrated comment from one poster) and most are vile, it would be called out for misogyny yet men are fair game on here. The excuses are just a tirade of nonsense about incels etc but what it amounts to are bitter enraged feminists who think all men are bastards bar the DH, DS and all the other dears who happen to be male.

The OP is quite amusing though who masquerades as a well educated intellectual yet seems to have chosen perverted degenerates as partners. Talk about delusions of grandeur - probably angry at her own shit life choices. It's not surprising male suicides particularly young males are through the roof with the toxic threads like this. This forum may cater predominantly for women but it's supposedly a parents forum yet gets away with abuse off the scale for a human being based purely on what chromosomes they have. As others have said, replace male with anything else and it would be deemed bigotry but these vile threads thrive on here.

Maybe one day in the future women will be able to walk around without fear (in my dreams)

There will be no need for "bitter enraged feminists"

Do let us know when that day comes, dear.
I won't hold my breath......

QldGCandproud · 26/04/2026 03:52

TrishM80 · 07/09/2025 23:34

Seriously, why don't all the manhaters just become lesbians and set up their own island somewhere?! They tried it in Finland a few years ago.

Not sure if you've noticed but women are no longer "allowed" to have their own rape crisis centres, let alone an Island, because men who think they feel like women don't want us too. The number of women only spaces, events, and services is rapidly declining. So while your solution sounds awesome, men won't let us avoid them.

QldGCandproud · 26/04/2026 04:46

GingerPower · 08/09/2025 06:05

It would be considered misogyny if a bloke started banging on about how 'horrific' women look after 50. It doesn't surprise me that this thread is full of single middle aged women with an axe to grind!

Surely not hard to guess why you might get negative reactions from men if this is how you view them. The contempt will be absolutely dripping from you.

@GingerPower - fess up, you are a bloke hey? And look, all good if you are, of course you are welcome here, but some OPs seem to be confused, and thinking that you are a manpanderer, when in fact I suspect you are a mansplainer. So, I think it only fair that you fess up and out yourself as a man who has come to a women's discussion forum to correct our wrong- think, with some "women are no better than men" commentary, just in case we accidently listen to the other women with experience of being women, instead.

QldGCandproud · 26/04/2026 05:23

Plantlady10 · 08/09/2025 09:19

Does this make any other mothers of boys sad? And people wonder why women experience gender disappointment when they are having a boy. When they are a baby people always say 'it doesn't matter, there's no difference between having a boy or a girl' Then you read this thread and apparently once our boys reach adulthood they should be castrated and it would be better if they didnt exist.

And no I am not denying at all that some men do terrible things, but the generalisation here is horrible.

What makes me sad is that as the Mother of 2 DSs who I adore, I can feel as they grow that they are susceptible to the culture around them that devalues women, and that I may go from being the person in their life who they can trust 100%, to being tainted by an acquired view of women in general. I talk to them about attitudes to women, we are currently close, but I do fear that distance. That's what makes me sad. That maybe they will be absorbed into that culture to even a mild extent. They have a choice though. I think they are choosing well, but as a Mum, I have only a certain level of influence.

QldGCandproud · 26/04/2026 06:49

Rallentanda · 08/09/2025 17:29

I think some of the responses crying 'it's not all men, it's not fair' are from men, but a good lot are from women.

First rule of the patriarchy is 'blame women' but the second rule is 'it's SO much easier if you can get women to blame women. Less work for men!'

The whole point about having problems with men is that we have literally no idea which men are going to do the worst things they can to us, wherever they draw their individual lines. So going through life with an evolving sense of the extent of men's depravity is the only sane option.

You discount other women's standpoints at your peril. You discount their testimony on individuals at your peril. No man will reward a woman for being on his side.

True story

DeathNote11 · 26/04/2026 06:59

Mammals have been around for approx 200 million years, insects have been around for approx 400 million. So insects are way ahead of us in the evolutionary process. Ever heard of a king bee? Noticed how many female insects use males for food after mating?

deydododatdodontdeydo · 27/04/2026 12:07

DeathNote11 · 26/04/2026 06:59

Mammals have been around for approx 200 million years, insects have been around for approx 400 million. So insects are way ahead of us in the evolutionary process. Ever heard of a king bee? Noticed how many female insects use males for food after mating?

😂
wtf did I just read?

30mins · 27/04/2026 12:12

fightbackorriseabove · 07/09/2025 18:51

Well, not his name. A username he goes by. It's him. He's not showing his face. Many of them do, though. I only looked once. But I screenshotted it.

Why? Screenshot it?
that is boggling my mind

ClawsandEffect · 27/04/2026 23:18

Winelondon · 05/11/2025 11:28

I dont have comprehension problems - but you are tarring every man with the same brush whether you like it or not. Its like watching say a woman struggling to park her car and saying all women are bad drivers. If you cant see the obvious it will be nigh on impossible to educate you on this.

By using your driving analogy though...

If I walk across the road with only women drivers, without looking, yes, most of the women drivers will avoid me and I'll be safe. BUT I don't KNOW which women drivers are OK. So I have to assume ALL of the women driving cars are bad drivers to keep myself safe by looking as I cross.

In the same way, if I assume all men are safe, I'm putting myself in danger. Because on average, 1 in every 15 men poses some threat to women (and I'd say that is a very conservative average).

I can't speak for other women on this thread, but I've been sexually assaulted by men I only knew slightly three times and also once within a relationship. How about you?

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