To think most men are filthy losers

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I'm going through the menopause, so have a low libido at the moment, which might explain my disgust. I don't know. I didn't use to be a prude, but I'm feeling more and more annoyed these days by men and their general behaviour.

I have a few male friends who, to varying degrees, always manage to slip in an innuendo or even an outright sexual remark. And out of politeness, or not wanting to cause a scene, I smile or roll my eyes in jest. I can only think of one occasion when I told a bloke to stop, and he REALLY took the hump. This was a married man who pursued me, but then said he was just joking and that I took myself too seriously. In fact, he got very angry.

I have lots of personal issues at the moment. Mad stuff. One of these issues lead to me googling my ex.

Well, the filth I found was disturbing. Men, thousands of them, masturbating online. I can only think they're doing it in front of each other. Becsuse there can't be many women wanting to sit and watch them. Surely? My ex was one of them.

I'm not talking about Only Fans where people pay. I'm talking about sex webcam stuff where men seem to just be filming themselves wanking. And watching each other. I don't even think it's gay. These are heterosexual men doing it for free. All ages.

Maybe I'm naïve.

But it's been a real eye opener for me.

I always knew men watched porn. But sitting there filming themselves and watching each other. It's madness.

I really do think that we, as women, spend our time worrying, working, caring, thinking, planning... and men just do the stuff thry have to do and then go back to messing with themselves or pestering women. Including their wives. And they keep having to up the limit because they can't get excited uness it's something really vile.

How many of us have felt obliged to have sex with a man, a partner, to avoid his anger, sulking, grumpiness. We've chosen sex as the lesser of two evils when we didn't want it.

It's not a human right, is it? They need to calm the fuck down.

Maybe I'm being unreasonable and grumpy, but I just think most of them ming.

It's depressing OP

Just this past week, one of my best friends has discovered some truly vile things about her husband, utterly disgusting, and he has done nothing but gaslight and be abusive towards her since. For various reasons, she feels she is trapped, but we are supporting her to put things in place to leave.

Another good friend saw a report of their ex partner who has just been convicted of a sexual assault on a very young teenage girl.

That's in the space of 7 days. It just feels relentless doesn't it?

:-( How awful.

When it comes to men, nothing surprises me anymore.

I wouldn’t spend any time with men who regularly make sexual innuendoes. The men I am close to don’t do that.

You’re not wrong at all!
I’ve tried online dating and it’s completely put me off ever dating a man again , I’m 51 now and happy to see my days out single and happy alone with my dogs.
i had men ask me if I wanted to watch them toss off before ? I mean I’m sure there are cool women on here who love it but for me I can’t think of an offer I would want least ?! How on earth is a stranger or a guy I’ve spoken to for a few days tossing off gonna do anything for me 🤦🏼‍♀️
then there are the ones demanding women to dress a certain way , look a certain way right down to how they mustn’t be “vanilla “
the not all men brigade are right but as I saw recently : not all men are nonces
no , but all nonces are men
( and I’m not Saying women can’t be peados before you all come at me )

You sound like a female equivalent of an incel.

Not all men OP. the ones that are like that are disgusting, filthy pigs. But I know many that aren't. Put your ex in the past where he belongs

The men i know some decent, respectful, hard husbands and fathers working hard to support their families. I mean i suppose i dont know what happens behind closed xoors of course. However i dont regard having a libido, or masturbating as filthy or wrong, its normal natural and healthy.

I never had sex because my exes were grumpy or sulked. They weren't perfect but none of them ever pressured me in that way.

Yep, I basically think men are repulsive

I hear you. My phone is currently blowing up with a 45-year-old who poses as a 40-year-old on Tinder. He will occasionally pop up on WhatsApp and suggest we have sex. I humour him, but it will never happen. Another much older male friend will drop in comments about his previous dirty weekends with various partners - as if I'm meant to probe for further details. I don't. The priest who officiated my father's funeral was later convicted of possessing child pornography images. He had a wife and four kids.

Not all men are vile cu*ts. But it's always always men. I'm childless and 35. I do know some lovely men. But I'm very very wary of them in general.

I think a few people are disagreeing, and that's great. Like I said, of course, NAMALT. I'm saying that most of them are. Not all. Most. And you're lucky if you've never met one. My exes, both long-term and short-term, include a teacher, a lecturer/author, a businessman, a firefighter, a carpenter, and a navy officer. Anyone they talked to would assume they were decent, hard-working men with mortgages, paying their taxes, bringing up their children, etc. But they can wear more than one hat. And one of those hats is the one they wear when they're wanking all over the show and filming themselves. Of course, masturbation is normal. That's not what I'm saying. And the men I was with didn't "pressure" me into having sex. But I'd know they were sulking when they weren't getting it. They were all too "woke" and "lefty" to actually put pressure on me. Most of them would have called themselves feminists in company, and yet, when it came down to it, not one of them really was.

These post are so depressing and indicative of this site, not all men are like this, you've clearly had a bad experience, but sounds pretty extreme to me..

Hopefully parthenogenesis will reach humankind soon.

Exactly. And the saddest thing is, I sometimes feel a bit of hope. I was talking to a guy online for a few weeks. I was too busy to meet up, but we were trying to make plans. He seemed pleasant. Some sort of electrical engineer, a lefty, bright, in a band, good-looking. I was feeling hopeful. And then, it started. What are you wearing? I like to imagine you... blah, blah, blah... and it put me off. I backed away from it all. He got in touch again recently and I just talked about the weather. I'm not having it. Be pleasant. Go for coffee. Talk about your hobbies, job, politics, put the world to rights a bit. Chat. See if you get on. DO that for a while, develop a bit of an emotional connection and see if you actually like each other AS PEOPLE. And then have great sex and come all over each other. What's the problem with that? Wouldn't everyone rather that? I think there's a good chance it is down to this testosterone business. I don't think a lot of men care WHO they're having sex with. Just that they're having it.

I think talking online is the issue, men hide behind anonymity, think it attracts and certain kind of guy, who do things they wouldn't do face to face.

Maybe. However, for every man who isn't, knows at least one who is and they say nothing.

I know NAMALT. I think that goes without saying. But, it's a bit like saying "Well, let's not talk about racists because none of my friends are", or "My stepdad wasn't a pedo, so it's not true that children are more in danger of sexual assault from step-parents than anyone else"...

Of course, what we're saying on here is all anecdotal. We've not got the actual numbers on how many men are at home filming themselves knocking one out.

But I do think it's gone too far. I do think we, as women, aren't shouting about it loud enough.

I don't think that I've had particularly outrageous experiences. Well, one of them is absolutely unbelievable. But I think it's quite common. I can see from this site that men are causing some massive issues out there.

I wonder what studies and statistics are available.

If it's for a court case for harassment then I would argue it's pretty extreme, especially if you are having to go on sites to take screenshots!

I'm sure there are some men who like this kind on thing, but to suggest most is a massive over exaggeration in my opinion, honest wouldn't know anyone doing this kind of thing, but perhaps it's an age thing.

I agree with the op

They are most sex obsessed morons

100% agree.
That’s why I will never touch another man or give one houseroom.

I dont think you should use the term "screen-shotted" when discussing men filming a wank lololol 😆

I totally agree with you. Not all, but more than half I would think. I do think maybe what's happening is that with online dating, social media and porn - the behaviour that was once mostly hidden, is now very visible and to some extent, expected and/or acceptable. It's horrible and frightening.

Oh, yes. My ex is definitely extreme. He's terrible. What he's done to me and is continuing to do to me is terrible. Most men are thankfully not like him. But it was the sheer number of men that were on the site I looked at. And I only spent a bit of time looking. Because it was bad. But how many sites are out there? Who's making all these OnlyFans girls rich? It's one of the biggest industries in the world, isn't it? It's incredible. And I don't think it's natural. I don't think we're supposed to be filming ourselves wanking online. I don't think we're supposed to be fucking animals and choking people and Christ knows what else goes on on these sites. We need to take a long, hard look at what we're becoming as a species. It's not right. Why can't they just have a quiet little wank when nobody's around? Like the rest of us?

”How many of us have felt obliged to have sex with a man, a partner, to avoid his anger, sulking, grumpiness. We've chosen sex as the lesser of two evils when we didn't want it.”

Yes, pretty much every time I have sex it’s so I can have a brief reprieve until his sulking starts again.

I used to be so in love with him but he has been abusive and manipulative so now I just fake that I’m content.

For years I wanted the security and the companionship of being in a relationship. Now I’m here I can understand why women prefer being single. All of the years I spent worrying about being rejected and not wanted by men was such an utter waste of my time.

It makes sense that women are the ones that most often instigate divorce. The thought of dealing with the mood swings, the silent treatment, the rages, the drama, the annoying interruptions and demands for attention just absolutely exhaust me!! Then there are his revolving attention seeking farts and his mind games!!

I’m sick of being prodded, grabbed and touched. I now go and sit on the stairs just to get away from him. If I go upstairs to the bedroom he demands I come back downstairs - so sitting on the stairs is a happy medium for me.

I’m in perimenopause right now - but I think I would feel this way regardless. I just want quiet. I want to be left alone.