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Ex partner handing care of our daughter over to her mother and I'm not happy about it.

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Neil90 · 03/09/2025 13:23

I apologise that this is long but I'm a dad in need of some advice from anyone who's been through similar or knows how it works.

I have an 8 year old daughter with my ex partner, we share custody 50/50 this was mutually agreed 7 years ago when we split.

Fine relationship we get along fine and never usually have any disagreements about our daughter

Last week ex decided to start doing overnight care work so she stays in the client's home all night with them and due to this has decided to give our daughter to her mother to care for whilst its her time, I've told her im not happy with this and that if she is not able to or does not wish to care for our daughter then she is to come to me full time, her mother is a nice lady but chain smokes in her flat, its a tiny one bedroom cluttered flat in a rough area and im not happy with my daughter living there 50% of the time.

The main issues I've pointed out to ex are

I'm not happy with her being stuck in a small flat with someone who chain smokes, there are health problems linked to excessive second hand smoke.

The condition of the flat, its messy and cluttered and generally not in great condition.

Daughter does not have a bedroom in the flat, she's sleeping on the sofa whilst keeping her clothes in a duffle bag, i seen my daughter yesterday and she stinks of smoke.

There is some young lads who have a flat on her street, little thugs who are in all sorts of trouble but the real issue is that they have two big alligators that run loose on the street with no control whatsoever, I'm sick with the thought of one of them getting my daughter because she wouldn't stand a chance against them.

I'm also just not happy that she's going to be raised by a grandparent half the time whilst she has a loving family here that can take care of her.

I'm married with a step child who is 9, my daughter gets on great with her step mum and step sister so no problems in that area, she has a lovely room here all to herself and a garden full of toys etc, she's able to ride her bike and be a child whilst here but when she's with her grandma she's stuck in a tiny one bed flat and can't go outside due to rough people on the street and the dogs.

My ex is refusing to let me have our daughter full time as she feels like she won't be a parent if I have her all the time, I'm more than happy for her to see daughter whenever she wishes with absolutely no restrictions, she's welcome in my home, welcome to take daughter whenever she likes and call whenever she likes, have her when she's off work and holidays but she's standing firm and refusing this.

We've never been to court over daughter before as we've always had a fine relationship and put her first but im thinking court will be my only option. Does anyone with experience of this know how it would go? Is it likely to go in my favour?

I'm worried because I have autism, high functioning autism but a good lawyer could easily make me fold under pressure in court, i own my own home and business, im a good dad and husband and my daughter has never came in to danger or anything like that in my care but a lawyer would have nothing else to use against me apart form my autism and I would 100% get overwhelmed in court under the pressure.

OP posts:
YouMightThinkThat · 03/09/2025 13:41

Answer the alligator questions OP. You seem to be able to address other queries ffs

Neil90 · 03/09/2025 13:41

@Lightuptheroomyes ex has decided daughter will not live with her at all going forward and she will just visit her at her mother's flat, so daughter will live with grandma half the time.

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YouMightThinkThat · 03/09/2025 13:41

Oh. So no alligators then? Disappointed. Off to find a better thread.

Neil90 · 03/09/2025 13:43

@Lennonjingleswe do one week each a d then switch over but we've usually been pretty good about switching weekends etc if the other parent has plans.

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Noname973 · 03/09/2025 13:44

How old is your DD and what does she want?

My ex and I have always offered the time back to the other parent, with the understanding it’s our to sort should they not be able to.

heroinechic · 03/09/2025 13:44

Bbbb

SmallBox · 03/09/2025 13:45

Do you live in the Everglades?

givemushypeasachance · 03/09/2025 13:45

The alligators had me rolling around on the floor, thank you, best thing I've read today.

TeenagersAngst · 03/09/2025 13:45

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ButSheSaid · 03/09/2025 13:46

Noname973 · 03/09/2025 13:44

How old is your DD and what does she want?

My ex and I have always offered the time back to the other parent, with the understanding it’s our to sort should they not be able to.

It says in the OP that she's 8 and unhappy at lying on a sofa in the stinking flat.

OP, bring her home. Your further posts show the woman has abandoned her.

FuzzyWolf · 03/09/2025 13:47

Given her age and your updates, I would seek advice to see if you can increase the time she is in your care.

Neil90 · 03/09/2025 13:47

@Noname973she's 8 and wants to live with me, she was happy living half the time with mum but if that's not an option then she wishes to be with me full time as she has no place of her own at grandma's.

OP posts:
bitterexwife · 03/09/2025 13:47

Neil90 · 03/09/2025 13:40

German shepard dogs not alligators

Really really disappointing.

SmallBox · 03/09/2025 13:47

Oh, typo for ALSATIANS....as you were.

Lightuptheroom · 03/09/2025 13:48

Then you definitely need legal advice, go to mediation and confirm that she no longer wishes to have her daughter living with her for whatever reason and arrange for daughter to reside with you with mum having the same visits as she has now.

Neil90 · 03/09/2025 13:48

Just to be clear I have no problem with her grandma, sure I don't exactly love my daughter visiting a dirty flat that stinks of smoke in a dangerous area but that's her grandma and it was only visiting, i do have a problem with my daughter living in that flat for half the time.

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LittleSF · 03/09/2025 13:50

This isn’t the mum arranging childcare for when she’s at work - his daughter has moved in with her grandmother with no room of her own.
OP, you should initially offer to take your daughter full time until her mum is in a position to house her properly herself. If she says no, you should talk to a solicitor about it - hopefully her mum agrees to it though.

dogcatkitten · 03/09/2025 13:52

You sound in a better position to have your daughter if she's not living with her mother for her mother's 50% custody. I don't know why the mother won't let her, if she's only visiting her daughter at her mother's and could do the same at your house. Is it money related, in that you would stop paying her support if you had your DD full time? Get the living arrangements confirmed in writing, ie, your daughter is living with GM in one bed flat with no bedroom or even bed of her own. Then talk to a lawyer and see what you can do.

MageQueen · 03/09/2025 13:52

If your ex is planning for your DD to move in with her grandmother, I think you have the right to go to court. It would be differnet if 3 nights a week she was asking her mum to have her to accomodate working.

I would go talk to a solicitor and get some advice myself. On the internet, helpful though we all are, is not the same. My instinct would be that she spends most of her time with you and you agree contact with the mum, most likely during days when she's not working.

In theory, if that happens, you'd be entitled to claim CMS from her so that's something you might want to consider - do you need it and want it? If you can negotiate on that does it make her more likely to agree to you getting more custody?

Starlight7080 · 03/09/2025 13:52

She definitely sounds like she would be better off with you. And seeing her mum whenever her mum isnt working/has time.
Not having a bed and using a bag for her belongings in a smoke filled flat is not good at all.
Get legal advice or social services to visit the grandma.
Its mad her mum thinks its OK.
If my 8 year old had a bad night's sleep . Then smelt like smoke turning up to school. I would be ashamed.
Add to that a messy flat so maybe the grandma herself could do with out the extra responsibility.

Tablesandchairs23 · 03/09/2025 13:53

Neil90 · 03/09/2025 13:35

Ex has decided to hand her over to her mother for all of her 50% with her as she believes its whats best so that daughter isn't in-between 3 homes, daughter is very unhappy living with grandma, she's living out of a duffle bag and sleeping on a sofa that stinks of smoke so its not a good environment for her when she could be in her own bedroom, ex will visit daughter at her mums but has decided to not have her staying in her house anymore

I wouldn't be happy with this. I'd speak to a solicitor.

Coconutter24 · 03/09/2025 13:56

YouMightThinkThat · 03/09/2025 13:41

Answer the alligator questions OP. You seem to be able to address other queries ffs

That’s not really what the post is about thought is it! People are not that stupid they don’t realise it’s an autocorrect! So why derail the thread about alligators when he’s asking for help in a different matter

AncoraAmarena · 03/09/2025 13:56

I am crying with laughter at the alligators in the street. What a typo. And I never blanched until other people started questioning it, not sure what that says about me.

Anyway, sorry OP, this isn't right at all. You poor daughter is on a sofa, doesn't haven't her own room and is subjected to the chain smoking. I would echo what other posters have said about social services and legal action. Hope you get this sorted quickly.

Neil90 · 03/09/2025 13:57

@dogcatkittenI don't legally have to pay my ex anything as I have daughter 50% of the time but I do send ex £250pw, she also had a job she was a care worker already but just daytime and decided to seitch over to overnights so I don't believe its a money problem, ex has a nice too bed house and a car etc so I'm really unsure on her decision to switch.

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user1492757084 · 03/09/2025 13:58

Op, can you request that your ex asks Granny to stay over (and to smoke outside) while she is working night shift?
Then your DD stays in her own room and sees her mother before and after work.
DD having her own bed and not being exposed to smoke would be my argument.

Otherwise, can you change from 50/50 to 70/30 while night shift is happening to make sure your ex sees DD regularly?