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Am I a far right extremist?

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Isitme245 · 25/01/2025 11:30

I had a conversation with my best friend of 25 years the other day and she called me a far right extremist and how my views are scary, dangerous and 'nazi coded'
I was really shocked as I didn't think any of what I said was bad. I'm not a particularly avid supporter of any political party and very much keep opinions to myself. She's very supportive of labour and anti trump and always has been. Usually when she asks me my opinions I just don't want to get into it but I did the other night and now I feel bad.

Here's the breakdown:

  • she sent me an article and told me that Nigel Farage is going to ban abortion eventually if he wins an election. I read the article and pointed out he only suggested lowering the abortion cut off date to 22 weeks (not 24 as it is now). I told her it wasn't the end of the world and it's reasonable if you read his reasons. I also made the point that men shouldn't really be getting involved in abortion law but that what he said wasn't the end of the world.
  • she asked me about immigration and I said that it's great but that we should be prioritising skilled immigrants and have stronger immigration laws. She also asked about asylum seekers and hotels and I said that we should have stronger laws about monitoring people and collecting documentation when people arrive.
  • she sent me and asked about Elon Musk's Nazi salute and I said I didn't interpret it that way
  • I said that immigrants who rape or murder should be deported.

To me this feels really reasonable and not over the top but she really attacked me for it? Now I feel really awkward and uncomfortable talking to her. Is this far right??

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Thetraitor · 25/01/2025 11:32

what are you hoping from this thread? That we all validate your opinions?

Politics is varied and people have different opinions

RandomButtons · 25/01/2025 11:33

You’re on the right, but not far right.

Ultimately, who cares?

BallerinaRadio · 25/01/2025 11:33

How did you "interpret" Musk's nazi salute?

ByMerryKoala · 25/01/2025 11:34

Prevent will be hammering your door down within the week.

BallerinaRadio · 25/01/2025 11:34

Is this just another tiresome "you can't say anything without being labelled far right" post?

Butchyrestingface · 25/01/2025 11:35

she sent me and asked about Elon Musk's Nazi salute and I said I didn't interpret it that way

You lost me here.

User89752 · 25/01/2025 11:35

It’s very unreasonable not to recognise Musk’s action as the clear Nazi salute that it was. Even Musk is not disputing that that’s what it was.

Otherwise I would categorise your opinions as pretty right wing but not hardline far right (as in, I would not call you a Nazi on the basis of these views). You’re far from the centre, but also still well short of being a Nazi.

Isitme245 · 25/01/2025 11:35

Thetraitor · 25/01/2025 11:32

what are you hoping from this thread? That we all validate your opinions?

Politics is varied and people have different opinions

Not at all, I know everyone's different. I just want to know if this is considered far right. My understanding of far-right is people who are openly racist, want completely closed borders, abortion bans etc

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lifeturnsonadime · 25/01/2025 11:36

i think this is why it's probably best keeping political views to yourself rather than discussing with friends.

As a society we appeared to have lost the ability to see nuance and have reasonable debates.

I don't think any of what you have said is far right but I've been told I hold far right views for believing that women should have single sex spaces and sport and believing that we should not have completely open borders.

Isitme245 · 25/01/2025 11:36

BallerinaRadio · 25/01/2025 11:33

How did you "interpret" Musk's nazi salute?

I'm not sure but when watching it my mind didn't automatically go 'Nazi'
This is what I told her

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BallerinaRadio · 25/01/2025 11:37

Isitme245 · 25/01/2025 11:36

I'm not sure but when watching it my mind didn't automatically go 'Nazi'
This is what I told her

She's probably wondering how you can see someone do a nazi salute and not recognise it as a nazi salute

Tiswa · 25/01/2025 11:40

I would definitley say your views are well within the right and closer to far than they are the centre!

where would you put your views OP?

VickyEadieofThigh · 25/01/2025 11:40

BallerinaRadio · 25/01/2025 11:37

She's probably wondering how you can see someone do a nazi salute and not recognise it as a nazi salute

Indeed. It looked entirely like one to me. And he took the time to do it twice.

MrsSkylerWhite · 25/01/2025 11:40

So, “I’m not a right wing extremist, but …”

Ok, then.

Calua · 25/01/2025 11:40

We've already had almost the exact same thread. I wish people would just say what they want to discuss rather than the wide-eyed "Am I an extremist?!" threads.

TooBigForMyBoots · 25/01/2025 11:42

Hard right maybe. Extremist, no.

Branleuse · 25/01/2025 11:42

I don't think you're a far right nazi , but definitely right wing.
I imagine shes probably feeling similarly about you

TheKeatingFive · 25/01/2025 11:43

lifeturnsonadime · 25/01/2025 11:36

i think this is why it's probably best keeping political views to yourself rather than discussing with friends.

As a society we appeared to have lost the ability to see nuance and have reasonable debates.

I don't think any of what you have said is far right but I've been told I hold far right views for believing that women should have single sex spaces and sport and believing that we should not have completely open borders.

I second this

MissTrip82 · 25/01/2025 11:43

Well, you’re not pro-choice, you seem to be unaware that thousands of non-citizens who commit crimes are already deported every year - pretending this would be a change, new or controversial is a deliberate tactic of racists - and as your mind ‘didn’t go there’ you’ve ended up defending a clear Nazi gesture.

Its quite right wing isn’t it?

Parratha · 25/01/2025 11:43

Your friend is bonkers. You're just a normal person with views that the majority in the UK hold.

ShirkingFromHome95 · 25/01/2025 11:44

I'd say she's woke/bonkers and you're a rational person. What does she think about the many sexual assaults committed by asylum seekers, like the NYE where 1200 sexual assaults happened in Germany on one night alone?

Does she think we should just let anybody in and women should have to bear the cost? That the rights of foreign men from misogynistic cultures trump the rights of women already living here?

GretchenWienersHair · 25/01/2025 11:44

RandomButtons · 25/01/2025 11:33

You’re on the right, but not far right.

Ultimately, who cares?

Well I’m sure the marginalised groups being impacted by far right sentiment (and those not impacted but still give a shit about those who are) probably care.

DonaldJohnTrump · 25/01/2025 11:44

Don't you worry. I've bin accused of that too. And look where I am now!

Ooral · 25/01/2025 11:45

User89752 · 25/01/2025 11:35

It’s very unreasonable not to recognise Musk’s action as the clear Nazi salute that it was. Even Musk is not disputing that that’s what it was.

Otherwise I would categorise your opinions as pretty right wing but not hardline far right (as in, I would not call you a Nazi on the basis of these views). You’re far from the centre, but also still well short of being a Nazi.

People like you are the problem, far from the centre??? OP is perfectly in the centre.

BallerinaRadio · 25/01/2025 11:45

Parratha · 25/01/2025 11:43

Your friend is bonkers. You're just a normal person with views that the majority in the UK hold.

"Normal person" and "majority view" in one post impressive, I'd love to see your data for this

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