Am I a far right extremist?

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I had a conversation with my best friend of 25 years the other day and she called me a far right extremist and how my views are scary, dangerous and 'nazi coded'
I was really shocked as I didn't think any of what I said was bad. I'm not a particularly avid supporter of any political party and very much keep opinions to myself. She's very supportive of labour and anti trump and always has been. Usually when she asks me my opinions I just don't want to get into it but I did the other night and now I feel bad.

Here's the breakdown:

• she sent me an article and told me that Nigel Farage is going to ban abortion eventually if he wins an election. I read the article and pointed out he only suggested lowering the abortion cut off date to 22 weeks (not 24 as it is now). I told her it wasn't the end of the world and it's reasonable if you read his reasons. I also made the point that men shouldn't really be getting involved in abortion law but that what he said wasn't the end of the world.

• she asked me about immigration and I said that it's great but that we should be prioritising skilled immigrants and have stronger immigration laws. She also asked about asylum seekers and hotels and I said that we should have stronger laws about monitoring people and collecting documentation when people arrive.

• she sent me and asked about Elon Musk's Nazi salute and I said I didn't interpret it that way

• I said that immigrants who rape or murder should be deported.

To me this feels really reasonable and not over the top but she really attacked me for it? Now I feel really awkward and uncomfortable talking to her. Is this far right??

The lefties don't realise that these hysterical and incorrect attacks actually encourage support for people like Musk. They've learnt nothing. Look at Trump's popular resurgence!

Nothing you said was particularly outrageous until you got to Elon lol. He’s a class A troll and knew exactly what he was doing.

Re: lefties going nuts calling people Nazis.
I am not a loony leftie at all. However, if you look back at how the Nazis came to power in Germany, there is a lesson to be learned.
They gradually took over the narrative in a nation known for its respect for rules, for order, and in a population which as far more developed than one where the average dictator takes power.
It was regime built on setting people against each other. People who had been neighbours and friends were suddenly enemies. Jewish people who had lived and thrived, some of whom were decorated WWW1 army veterans, were cast out.
The economic problems of the country, which were being experienced also across Europe and in America, were blamed on a small section of society.
Now it’s quite a leap to get from there to 6 million Jews being murdered, but it didn’t actually take that long. A decade is not a long time in history at all.
So it does make me anxious when I see groups being set against each other. The issues we face in the UK aren’t the fault of immigrants. It is a long term corrosion of so many facets of our society, the fact that we have lost so much global power, that we moved from being a manufacturing to a service centre, the list goes on and on.

Pics not video. It’s clear when you see video comparisons Musks is very Germany 1939-45 and the others clearly aren’t.

As a Brexiteer I find your statement on Brexit pretty far right. I voted for Brexit as a Socialist, seeing the EU (and it's forerunners) for what it is, a capitalist cartel set up with the intention of promoting capitalism and removing as many as possible of the rights of workers - free movement OF LABOUR is about lowering wages across the EU, not about people being able to buy holiday cottages in the Algarve.

Read the blurb below from the front page of the Reform website and it's easy to understand how a lot of people will choose this over gender nonsense, men in women's prisons, prioritising people born outside the UK, etc.

Shame Reform have no actual ideas as to how they achieve this. Wishlists and moaning are easy.

We're all far right now

This, too!

Op Relax you are no Eva Braun or Le Penn! Your friend and you just have differing views.

I know people on the left with your views. I think your friend is very mistaken to consider you on the far right.

Wanting strong immigration controls used to be a fairly standard left-wing view.

Fair enough. I only made one point and you’re extrapolating a fair bit from that - economic damage. Brexit has provably caused this to the UK, even Farage admits it (although it’s no his fault in any shapes or form)

Those are right wing views but not extreme or ‘far’ right ones. I would put Musk apologists further along the spectrum to the right but I see you had other thoughts about it now.

There is support for lowering the upper limit to 22 weeks for the reasons Farage gives.

The Nazi salute was derived from the fascist one used by Mussolini, who stopped using it when the Nazis adopted it. The fascist salute was more like the one Musk did - more to the side. Not sure about the click of the heels that normally accompanies the Nazi salute.

I think you are reasonable. I can't stand the whole you don't agree with me therefore you are an extremist & a Nazi. This is said by people who don't believe in free speech and aren't intelligent or educated enough to argue their points.

This. Very much so.

If people looked at that blurb critically they'd know that Reform can't deliver on those pledges. It's easy enough to promise things when you aren't anywhere near government. What needs to happen is for their policies to be put under the spotlight and them being forced to justify them.

I think you sound pretty central.

People should at least try to learn the basics about politics before posting.

You can't just redefine the centre as 'the things I personally agree with'.

The guy who drew that is an "anti-woke" extremist who's on a bit of a crusade about it, to the point of embarrassing himself with bold proclamations on topics he knows nothing about.

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It's not like I came to her with views. She asked me my opinions and I responded with what I know, hence me making this post and wanting to hear people's views and learn more

I haven't read the whole thread.

I agree. Your friends views are not mine. It baffles me how some people can think this way. Having no issue at all with unregulated immigration. Huge Labour supporter? How? In what world.

I bet she's happy to share women's spaces too with men who claim to be women.

I've lost friends this way too. It's gutting at times, but when it comes to it, it's fine.

There is support for lowering the limit to 22 weeks. Not only Farage has suggested this. I don't like or trust Farage and would never vote Reform, but lowering the abortion limit is not a far right policy.

I don't know where to start with this racist BS.

This feels like such a goady post, like - "look, this lefties says I'm nazi for being completely reasonable".

You can say whatever you want but what Musk did was a nazi salute, there is not other ways to "interpret" it.

I third it