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AIBU to stop DD contact with GF

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jcsc · 29/10/2024 21:44

DD is 14 year 10 at school. She has a gf whose 16 and in college, this is the hard bit for me, they’ve never met but just spoke on the phone and via text/social media for the last 3 months. They met via mutual friends in a group chat. Blown up last 24 hours as GF is controlling imo and my DD close friends opinion. GF makes her sneak into toilets (no phones allowed at school) to text back or gets angry. Wants to know where she is, who she is with and you can’t leave a message ‘on read’ and not reply or she hounds her. Makes her stay awake as long as possible texting sometimes until 3-4am. She apparently has come out of a toxic relationship and tried to kill herself last year . Gf dad also messaged my daughter asking if she was ok and that they all love her, I found out yesterday after the girls had a bust up and GF was controlling.I am raging that some girls dad is messaging my DD who I’ve never met. Instant red flags. My DD says sorry all the time when she’s not done anything wrong and that I’m not understanding and she’s in love with her. I can’t quite understand how’s she in love with her and that these next years of her life are so massively important that I want her to stop all contact. I’ve stated I won’t allow them to meet (gf lives about 45 mins away from us) and if this carries on I will text the gf myself and remove my DD phone. I’m now the worst mum on the planet that doesn’t understand her feelings or the love she has for this girl and she now hates me kicking me out of her bedroom with a slammed door behind me. Tried to explain it’s my job as her mum to protect her and I think this is a toxic phone relationship that my DD is infatuated with and it’s now spiralling out of control. She’s stopped messaging her friends, hardly comes out of her room, isn’t doing her homework and just isn’t her normal self.
AIBU for saying stop contact or should I let her continue

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NotOneOfTheInCrowd · 01/11/2024 17:31

sparkellie · 01/11/2024 17:06

Alternatively they are harassing op and her husband because the dd hasn't been in touch. Just as the 'dad' messaged op and her husband was contacted before all of this when the dd wasn't contactable.. I wouldn't rule out the daughter being in touch but it's definitely not a sure thing. I would go by how she is reacting to this harassment of her parents. Also, op, please make it crystal clear to your dd that you are in touch with the police about the whole thing.

The fact remains, she gave out her parents’ personal numbers to random strangers on the internet without either their knowledge or permission.

jcsc · 01/11/2024 17:51

she definitely hasn’t got another device. She hasn’t left the house since this started other than go out with my mum for dinner and I made her come trick or treating last night (not dress up but just walk with me and the little ones ) It’s stressing me out that she may know where we live.

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fashionqueen0123 · 01/11/2024 18:10

jcsc · 01/11/2024 17:51

she definitely hasn’t got another device. She hasn’t left the house since this started other than go out with my mum for dinner and I made her come trick or treating last night (not dress up but just walk with me and the little ones ) It’s stressing me out that she may know where we live.

I don’t understand. Are these Turkish restaurant and police real messages or just fake ones this girl has created? How would she be getting these people to call you?

She sounds unhinged. What does your daughter have to say about her doing this?

GinandGingerBeer · 01/11/2024 18:16

jcsc · 01/11/2024 17:51

she definitely hasn’t got another device. She hasn’t left the house since this started other than go out with my mum for dinner and I made her come trick or treating last night (not dress up but just walk with me and the little ones ) It’s stressing me out that she may know where we live.

Do make sure you check which devices are accessing WiFi in your house though OP
If she's determined to contact her she'll get an old phone from a friend at school
I do feel for her, she's been groomed by god knows who.
Even if it does turn out to be a 16yo then she's clearly disturbed.
I think you need to get your dd to be honest. If she's sent photos then she'll be terrified Sad

Bucketsof · 01/11/2024 18:20

Any chance she has old iPad or phone? And using WiFi,

The fake messages are from free Prank Apps

jcsc · 01/11/2024 18:23

fashionqueen0123 · 01/11/2024 18:10

I don’t understand. Are these Turkish restaurant and police real messages or just fake ones this girl has created? How would she be getting these people to call you?

She sounds unhinged. What does your daughter have to say about her doing this?

The Turkish restaurant was real we googled the phone number.
no other devices. I’ve got her old iPhone as mine smashed.

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ketchuptom · 01/11/2024 18:30

so sleepover still going ahead?

ketchuptom · 01/11/2024 18:31

Turns out she gave our numbers out in case she needed to use our phones when we went to a wedding over a month ago as her battery was low and she may have needed to use our phone and wanted this girl to know our numbers if my DD was to text from them.

OP, surely surely you can see how nonsensical this is.

ketchuptom · 01/11/2024 18:32

She will be in her room with best friend on her friends phone

unless of course you have cancelled the sleepover
or at the very least explained to friends parents that she won’t be allowed her phone upstairs in the bedroom

commonsense61 · 01/11/2024 18:37

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jcsc · 01/11/2024 18:46

ketchuptom · 01/11/2024 18:32

She will be in her room with best friend on her friends phone

unless of course you have cancelled the sleepover
or at the very least explained to friends parents that she won’t be allowed her phone upstairs in the bedroom

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Sleep over has been rearranged.
I’ve always been very polite at all times to your messages but throughout I feel you have had made sarcastic digs at me. I am fully aware what a complete dickhead I’ve been I really don’t need it.

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jcsc · 01/11/2024 18:48

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No I’ve not found any information out at all. Even reactivated my fb account so I could search bit couldn’t find anything similar to their snap chat names

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PeggyMitchellsCameo · 01/11/2024 18:49

Sorry you have been such a terrible time @jcsc
It has been really tough.
Hope the worst is over now. Keep going ✔️

GildedRage · 01/11/2024 19:16

Surely the calls and texts demonstrate to your dd how unhinged this/these persons are.
Truly abnormal behavior.

MrsAga · 01/11/2024 19:21

Your dd has every right to feel angry & hurt. But she’s angry & hurt at the wrong person right now.
You have both been thrown into the grim side of sm, be proud you realised & acted quickly. (Ignore those who say you should have prevented it or seen it sooner - that’s not helpful). She’ll realise you were protecting her eventually, just ride the storm best you can until then.

Goody2ShoesAndTheFilthyBeast · 01/11/2024 19:23

I expect that the 'dad' realises his grooming attempt has been discovered so now he's trying to intimidate you in the hopes you won't go to the police.

WearyAuldWumman · 01/11/2024 19:27

Goody2ShoesAndTheFilthyBeast · 01/11/2024 19:23

I expect that the 'dad' realises his grooming attempt has been discovered so now he's trying to intimidate you in the hopes you won't go to the police.

Agreed. I hope that any further attempted contact is passed to the police - without informing the OP's daughter.

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Only a work colleague that’s 21. I’m seeing her Tuesday so will get her to help me.
my siblings are older than me and have no clue. Blind leading the blind so to speak.

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NotOneOfTheInCrowd · 01/11/2024 19:41

It’s worth bearing in mind that phone numbers can be cloned.? The Turkish restaurant makes me think this lot may in fact be abroad.

IMO it’s unlikely an individual, but more likely a grooming gang.

jcsc · 01/11/2024 19:42

NotOneOfTheInCrowd · 01/11/2024 19:41

It’s worth bearing in mind that phone numbers can be cloned.? The Turkish restaurant makes me think this lot may in fact be abroad.

IMO it’s unlikely an individual, but more likely a grooming gang.

Just weird it’s in the same area she said she was from.

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fashionqueen0123 · 01/11/2024 19:47

jcsc · 01/11/2024 18:23

The Turkish restaurant was real we googled the phone number.
no other devices. I’ve got her old iPhone as mine smashed.

So what were they calling you to say? Had someone made a fake order or something ?

NotOneOfTheInCrowd · 01/11/2024 19:48

Have you reverse image searched her? I thought your older DS was coming home?

Dontbeme · 01/11/2024 19:52

@jcsc does your DD have a Gmail account linked to her phone? If you can access it check her google drive and you can also access anything she has searched for on Google, it may give you some clues as to what she has been doing online and get information on who this GF and her dad are.

jcsc · 01/11/2024 19:57

NotOneOfTheInCrowd · 01/11/2024 19:48

Have you reverse image searched her? I thought your older DS was coming home?

He’s home. He only uses Snapchat really. So I have basic knowledge of that and Google has been a great help. He said the other platforms aren’t really him and his friends thing 🙄
i tried reverse imaging the photo I did have from her snap chat profile and it was too small. I’ve blocked her on DD phone and now I don’t have any other images of her stupidly.

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