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If a man can't afford to keep me

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sunshinesparklestar · 20/09/2024 13:16

I'm not sure how well this post will go down but AIBU to find it unattractive if a man can't financially support his wife and family? I mean to the point where the wife doesn't have to work if she doesn't want to.

I am a SAHM to my child who is now in school. I have been a SAHM since my maternity leave ended and I have no plans on going back to work. My DH runs a business and earns enough to comfortably support us all. I have things in place which mean I would be financially secure if he was to leave me/pass away and for later in life.

The main AIBU is to find a man who couldn't financially support his wife unattractive? There's a couple who live down my street and she has to work full time and I feel sorry for her leaving so early every morning and coming home way after her children have finished school.

I totally agree with women working if they want/need to but I can't help but feel sorry for them.

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Josephinesnapoleon · 21/09/2024 15:37

andbytheway · 21/09/2024 15:32

God are people still at this?

Can you not see that the whole thing is designed to wind up working mums and make then look daft and insecure when they all inevitably pile in with their anecdotes about why / how / when they are working and all other random 'justifications' of nothing. Honestly, less is more. What is there to justify? When people go on about being a strong, independent woman just for the mere fact if having a job, it reads like a bad Beyoncé sketch. It's 2024 fgs, any woman can do what she wants.

I'm in a country at the moment where the family structures are more traditional. I can see there are pros and cons to this. Women still work of course - in all kinds of sectors - but women are more open minded and they certainly wouldn't be slinging mud at each other for working or not working! Nobody is slagged off for having a husband who supports them or daring to want to be with their own children. This is just basic normal stuff of life. What is there to even say? Similarly, if you work, then great. Only in Britain do women need to put other women down with pathetic snide, smug, or bitchy comments or stupid irrelevant anecdotes about their neighbour or their mother - just to make themselves feel better about working or being a SAHM.

Pot meet kettle. Miaow. Feel better after that little attack,.?

Josephinesnapoleon · 21/09/2024 15:38

CandidHedgehog · 21/09/2024 15:34

She says making pathetic snide, smug, bitchy comments to put down other women.

Do you feel better now?

Edited

Snap.

DeclutteringNewbie · 21/09/2024 16:15

Nobody is slagged off for having a husband who supports them or daring to want to be with their own children. This is just basic normal stuff of life. What is there to even say? Similarly, if you work, then great. Only in Britain do women need to put other women down with pathetic snide, smug, or bitchy comments or stupid irrelevant anecdotes about their neighbour or their mother - just to make themselves feel better about working or being a SAHM.

Past a certain point you don’t need female anatomy to look after children. It is not an exclusively female thing to want to be with children. That’s the issue.

andbytheway · 21/09/2024 16:18

I'm saying everyone is as bad as each other. It's a sad reflection of British women in 2024.

InSearchOfMartin · 21/09/2024 16:20

sunshinesparklestar · 21/09/2024 14:29

I definitely worded my first post wrong, it came across in the wrong way! I have since expressed how I do not feel sorry for women working, I feel sorry for the women who have to work when all they want to do is be home with their babies. I have a friend who had to go back to work when her baby was a few months old and it broke her.

I can't take back that I find financially secure men attractive, as I do, but it definitely doesn't define someone and I am not shallow! If he lost it all tomorrow of course I wouldn't leave him but I can't help what I find attractive in a man.

You find them attractive? Don't you mean you admire them?

ilovesooty · 21/09/2024 16:29

InSearchOfMartin · 21/09/2024 16:20

You find them attractive? Don't you mean you admire them?

She seemingly means attractive because they're rich and enable her to be economically inactive, which is what she is now her child is in school.

Knulp · 21/09/2024 16:39

I work 16-18 hour days, 7 days a week, not so much because I have to, I choose to. Every day brings interesting and new challenges, I could not live the life the OP has, but if she can, and she likes it, then good luck to her. However, it does sound like my personal hell. I would say that is a waste of a life, but we are all different.

Pipsquiggle · 21/09/2024 16:44

InSearchOfMartin · 21/09/2024 16:20

You find them attractive? Don't you mean you admire them?

No. OP needs to be a kept woman as she finds it hard to be employed due to her ADHD.

So for her, economic stability from her OH is an absolute necessity as she is unable to bring in her own income.

She has very cackhandedly described it as she can't understand why other women feel the same. She has failed to recognise her own limitations that she has imposed on herself that means she HAS to get a man who will fund her lifestyle

Pipsquiggle · 21/09/2024 17:00

*She has very cackhandedly described it as she can't understand why other women DON'T feel the same....

DeclutteringNewbie · 21/09/2024 17:02

No. OP needs to be a kept woman as she finds it hard to be employed due to her ADHD.
So for her, economic stability from her OH is an absolute necessity as she is unable to bring in her own income.

Not strictly true. Sounds like she could work in childcare, housekeeping or philanthropy very easily.

Have to hope hubby makes provisions/lives/works forever though.

Thepeopleversuswork · 21/09/2024 17:16

@Pipsquiggle

She has very cackhandedly described it as she can't understand why other women feel the same. She has failed to recognise her own limitations that she has imposed on herself that means she HAS to get a man who will fund her lifestyle

Alternatively, she has tried to pass off being unmotivated and lazy as a matter of sexual orientation to a particular kind of man when in fact it’s just a case of needing any man who will pay her not to have to work.

Josephinesnapoleon · 21/09/2024 17:26

andbytheway · 21/09/2024 16:18

I'm saying everyone is as bad as each other. It's a sad reflection of British women in 2024.

And yet again having another go at women. Not men. Women.

can you really not see the irony in posting repeated attacks on women whilst complaining women attack. I mean ffs.

and I’m assuming you’re a sahm who has had some extreme reaction to the thread. Hit a nerve. Snd likely not British as apparently you want to attack our nationalities too.

CalmingFarm · 21/09/2024 17:39

andbytheway · 21/09/2024 16:18

I'm saying everyone is as bad as each other. It's a sad reflection of British women in 2024.

Are you not like other women? ;-)

BooBooDoodle · 21/09/2024 17:48

I support my family financially, demonstrate a strong work ethic to my kids and I do what you do all day at the end of my working day! I couldn’t ever sponge off my husband and ask for money, plus, I love my job.

Umbrella15 · 21/09/2024 17:50

I think a proper woman wouldnt want to be kept, talk about old fashioned. I enjoy working, I like going out meeting new people. I couldnt think of ant thing woese than being a stay at home parent, or house wife. Not everyone thinks the same as you, evan if I was married to a millionaire, I would still work. Maybe your neighbour feels the same.

Umbrella15 · 21/09/2024 17:54

sunshinesparklestar · 20/09/2024 13:43

I feel sorry for the women who don't want to work and miss their children but have NO choice but to work. I don't feel sorry for the women who want to work and love their career and not being financially dependent on a man.

Why do you dislike women who choose to work, and are financally independent, a bit of jelousy perhaps

Jessica3075 · 21/09/2024 17:55

Do you have help in the home or are you the home maker who does everything domestic? To say that your husband is the breadwinner and you don’t have to work is not the norm these days but often, the husband who is the financial provider has a strong partner who does everything else.

If your day is just your own and you have domestic help, I hope you’re doing something useful? A degree, some volunteering? Something?!! Otherwise, you’re not so much unreasonable as entitled and stupid.

TiredTeaBag · 21/09/2024 17:55

Ridiculously unreasonable. I've always been the primary breadwinner.

It's about being a team. Attractiveness is not sealed up in a pay packet.

Kindness, hard work, commitment to making a difference in the community, being a great father, being gorgeous.... that's what I've found attractive in my lowly paid husband for the last 35 years....

SouthLondonMum22 · 21/09/2024 17:55

PiggleToes · 21/09/2024 15:20

Yeh and no doubt you and @DeclutteringNewbie are the perfect humans who manage successful full time careers and have a spotless house, cook healthy food from scratch every day etc etc, but I have three little kids, work full time and struggle to hold it all together . House is always a wreck, laundry is never ending, food is often slapped together and more lazy than I would like, I struggle balancing work and childcare/ pick ups from school/ pre school. It helps if I have a cleaner. I wish I could afford more help. I think I’m a fairly normal human.

I would never personally be happy being a SAHP, but my god my life would be so much easier if I had a stay at home wife to do all my laundry, keep my house clean, pick up my kids, cook me fresh , healthy meals every day etc etc!. I’m sure it would be great for my career as well- I could really focus and achieve .

Let’s not devalue domestic work- it’s worth a hell of a lot, and it’s mostly done by women. Men all over the world hugely benefit from outsourcing this work to the women in their life- they are not being “taken for mugs”.

Edited

Of course I’m not perfect. I just don’t think it’s devaluing domestic work to point out that the vast majority of adults have to do it even if they do work full time.

NonsuchCastle · 21/09/2024 17:57

CalmingFarm · 21/09/2024 11:23

Agree with these office comments. There is an impression of office life being stuck in the 80s with yuppies and briefcases. The workplace has changed quite a bit. Not everywhere of course. But the idea that fulfilling and rewarding work can’t be done in offices is odd. Never mind friendships forged with colleagues.

On MN I am often struck by how small some people’s lives are.

Although I was in an office, with a briefcase, in the 80's. It was brilliant!

Drcake · 21/09/2024 17:57

spottedinthewilds · 20/09/2024 13:22

How do you think your husband feels? Is he attracted to someone who is so workshy?

🎣

NonsuchCastle · 21/09/2024 17:59

ilovesooty · 21/09/2024 11:06

Perhaps the odd man here and there has so little self respect he's prepared to be taken for a mug like that.

But the OP's husband doesn't work that much, she says, and has plenty of time for hobbies (I note she doesn't say anything about her hobbies or shared hobbies) AND he gets his house cleaned, his shirts ironed, his meals cooked, and gets to FEEL LIKE A MAN! Hurrah!

UmberFinch · 21/09/2024 18:01

OP you are the definition of shallow because if your ‘husband’ suddenly lost all his money then surely you’d find him unattractive, by your own admission!

You’ve lucked out, that’s all. You don’t earn your own money, so flaunting around in nice clothes and organising your children’s wardrobe by season or whatever along pretending to give a shit about those less fortunate than you with the charity bollocks is all just playing house.

NonsuchCastle · 21/09/2024 18:03

Gummybear23 · 21/09/2024 12:14

Well I hope you can find your heart to work when your 'financially attractive' man runs away with a young attractive woman.
Don't say he would NEVER do that coz you sort his seasonal clothes or whatever.
It can. It does.

She actually clearly says she is in "no doubt" that he could leave her at some point. That's awful. And after all that cooking and ironing...

DeclutteringNewbie · 21/09/2024 18:06

PiggleToes · 21/09/2024 15:20

Yeh and no doubt you and @DeclutteringNewbie are the perfect humans who manage successful full time careers and have a spotless house, cook healthy food from scratch every day etc etc, but I have three little kids, work full time and struggle to hold it all together . House is always a wreck, laundry is never ending, food is often slapped together and more lazy than I would like, I struggle balancing work and childcare/ pick ups from school/ pre school. It helps if I have a cleaner. I wish I could afford more help. I think I’m a fairly normal human.

I would never personally be happy being a SAHP, but my god my life would be so much easier if I had a stay at home wife to do all my laundry, keep my house clean, pick up my kids, cook me fresh , healthy meals every day etc etc!. I’m sure it would be great for my career as well- I could really focus and achieve .

Let’s not devalue domestic work- it’s worth a hell of a lot, and it’s mostly done by women. Men all over the world hugely benefit from outsourcing this work to the women in their life- they are not being “taken for mugs”.

Edited

Far from it. A tidy house is very low on my list of priorities, actually and time/life is too short for copious amounts of cleaning. it’s quite hard to cook “healthy meals” every day when I’m 200 miles from home. Household tasks get done by everyone in the household (except the dog).

Why would you need a SAH wife? Why not a SAH partner? A vagina isn’t required for any of the domestic tasks you mention so it doesn’t have to be a female role.

We’re a partnership so we share responsibility for all the things that need doing and have from day one. Clearly just more enlightened than others. 🤷🏻‍♀️

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