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How can my brother salvage this situation

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missblooming · 27/10/2023 11:19

I'm a long time user, but have set up a new name for this as I dont want it linked to my previous posts. My brother moved in with his partner about six months ago and things were going great apart from one thing, she has a huge dog and it constantly causes rows between them. Things came to a head last week and he told her it needed to go or he would, and she basically said that's fine, my brother needed to go by the end of the month.

They were so happy together and made for a nice couple. My DB was getting his life back on track, and had hoped with his new living arrangements that he would get joint custody of my niece and nephew and be able to spend some more time with them- which would be great for our whole family.

The dog had been sleeping in the GF room when he moved in, which obviously he wasnt happy with so she moved it to a spare room, but when the kids come to stay they dont like staying in what they call the 'dogs room'. Obviously it lets them know where they are in the pecking order! My DB asked for it to go in the kitchen and the GF started to dig her heels in and its become a real bone of contention.

Apart from the dog, I have never seen my brother so happy. It seems a shame that a relationship can be ruined for such a silly reason. I want to help him salvage it, but not sure where to go from here. He has gone from indifference to the dog to being absolutely fixated on it as the problem- things like she'll spend £80 on a bag of food when he's trying to clear credit card debt and cant afford to take the kids to the cinema, he just cant see past it, particularly now shes picked the dog over him.

How can we help her see that she is being unreasonable, or how can my brother let this go? I really don't want him moving back in here, and it will also mean that he is further away from getting shared custody of his kids.

OP posts:
LikeRobbieSays · 27/10/2023 14:11

missblooming · 27/10/2023 12:14

You can get bags of dog food for £30 you can get bags of dog food for £80. Would you all really be able to let it wash over you that £50 is being spent on special food for the dog, rather than a special meal for actual children. And of course when you get involved with someone with kids you take on a degree of responsibilty and care for them!

Seriously?!
It's up to her what food she buys for her dog! Are you saying she should buy the cheaper food and spend £50 on taking kids out for tea that aren't even hers?? She has no responsibility for those children what so ever.

Greatbigfluffytrousers · 27/10/2023 14:12

My dog’s food costs about £60. It’s grain free. If he has to have to grainy stuff then the poo sitch isn’t pleasant.

Sarahconnor1 · 27/10/2023 14:12

Nowherenew · 27/10/2023 14:09

It’s funny how MNers hate big dogs, especially around kids - yet in this situation they’re jumping to defend the ex.

Is it an XL bully by any chance? 🤣

He has absolutely no say in her keeping her dog.

If they are together and in debt then he of course has a say on what she spends her money on but not if they’re separated.

No way would I get rid of a dog for a man but it’s obvious that this woman is using the dog as a way to get her own way.

I am confused about the timeline though.
They share kids but he only moved in 6 months ago?
Why is that?

You say when they go to stay they have to stay in the dogs room, so where else are the kids staying?

It isn't their debt, it's his from before they were together. She has no responsibility for it. Legally or morally.

They are not her children they are from a previous relationship and live full time with their mother presumably

Lemonyfuckit · 27/10/2023 14:12

I'm sorry, your brother thinks she should spend HER money on HIS debt and/or treating HIS children, rather than feeding her dog? Sounds likes she's well shot of him.

TicTacNicNak · 27/10/2023 14:13

I love my little dog to bits, he has such amazing character. If any bloke started telling me where my dog could or couldn't go in my own home, or wanted my dog to have inferior food so that I could spend my hard earned money on HIS kids, then I too would tell him to do one.

Doginthebed · 27/10/2023 14:13

Your brother sounds like a waste of space. How dare he change where the dog sleeps. The dog was there first. It’s his issue to fund treats for his kids not his gf. Honestly why can’t you see that? Let him move back in with you and then he’ll have a happy home for the kids too . If you’ve not got a spare room, you kip on the sofa and give the kids your room. Be a good auntie and put them first.

Tinkerbyebye · 27/10/2023 14:13

Itsgettingweirdnow · 27/10/2023 12:35

@ThreeTescoBags No, I was pointing out to the Op, that you cannot put a post up about pets on here - and get a measured response. You see it time and time again. Also why does it have to be either or? You should be able to feed the dog and also go to the cinema. I do not have pets, so perhaps I am missing something 🤷🏾‍♀️ I would hope that if the GF in question had a baby, she would forgo the expensive dog food so she could perhaps go to a paid for mother & baby class etc.

@Itsgettingweirdnow

can i suggest you reread the post. The kids are not hers, she is the girlfriend, and a relatively new one, not wife/step mum etc He has loads of debt, no idea if he is paying his way at the gf house, but why should she reduce how much she lays out of her money for her dog food to allow him to take his kids, who have two parents, to McDonald’s or the cinema for a treat

its not her responsibility. And I have no doubt that if she had her own baby she would do whatever she needed to do to support HER child

And it’s very telling the op doesn’t want him back either

EmmaEmerald · 27/10/2023 14:14

OP "The dog is treated like a prince whilst the children go without."

but the children aren't hers and she hasn't yet agreed for them to move in?

she's probably realised she's better off alone.

AnotherForumUser · 27/10/2023 14:14

@missblooming
If you think the ex girlfriend is so wrong what the hell must you think when you look in the mirror?

Let's turn this around.

The ex is not even related to these children but you are as their aunt and sister to cock-lodger of the century. So why wasn't he able to get 50/50 time with his children while living with you, his sister, his children's aunt? Why are you so meeeeaaaan? Don't you love him/the children? Why are you being soooo selfish? YOU ARE THEIR AUNT FOR FUCK'S SAKE. That makes you closer to the children than a girlfriend.

Let him move in with his children and help him pay his debt and treat his children. Make sure he has a room just for them so he can go 50/50 with their mother. Go on stop being so 'unfair' to golden balls.

You really don't care enough about your precious brother or your nieces/nephews do you? You don't want to help your own blood relations but expect the ex-girlfriend to care more than you.

You have a uterus and are related so surely that makes you responsible for this feckless father and his offspring. If not why not? Why won't you step up to be the good, well trained obedient woman you expect the ex girlfriend to be? If you don't want to help your own brother that makes you a stonking hypocrite when whinging about his ex girlfriend.

Good on her. The ex -girlfriend is right to show this parasitic limp dicked sponging cock lodger the door. But too kind in allowing him to stay to the end of the month. My bootprint would still be on his arse as he crashed on YOUR sofa. The ex is well rid of your useless parasitical lump of a brother and his entire parasite-enabling family.

Fourfurrymonsters · 27/10/2023 14:14

Nowherenew · 27/10/2023 14:09

It’s funny how MNers hate big dogs, especially around kids - yet in this situation they’re jumping to defend the ex.

Is it an XL bully by any chance? 🤣

He has absolutely no say in her keeping her dog.

If they are together and in debt then he of course has a say on what she spends her money on but not if they’re separated.

No way would I get rid of a dog for a man but it’s obvious that this woman is using the dog as a way to get her own way.

I am confused about the timeline though.
They share kids but he only moved in 6 months ago?
Why is that?

You say when they go to stay they have to stay in the dogs room, so where else are the kids staying?

You need to go back and read the OP. They’re his kids, not hers. She is absolutely not responsible for them, despite the best efforts of her boyfriend, who’s getting mad at her spending HER money on HER dog and not in mcDonalds for HIS kids. Cock that he is.

Lemonyfuckit · 27/10/2023 14:14

missblooming · 27/10/2023 11:35

He is absolutely not a bully. He would never say to her that she CAN'T spend her money like that- it is just one of the things that has really started to grate on him recently that he is noticing and feels unfair. There are lots of these kind of things that are just adding up over time. The dog is treated like a prince whilst the children go without. He isn't dicating how she spends her money, it is just what is adding to the resentment of the dog.

How could it possibly be "unfair"?! In what possible world could her spending her money on feeding her dog instead of being his cash cow, be "unfair"? Your brother sounds entitled as hell.

AllAboardTootToot · 27/10/2023 14:15

It’s her money not to spend on his children. Are you off your tits?

Jog on!

BringMeTea · 27/10/2023 14:15

Aye right OP....

LookingForPurpose · 27/10/2023 14:15

I had my 4 dogs long before my daughter had her 3 children. My dogs need a special diet that I pay around £125 a month for. Some weeks my daughter struggles to make ends meet financially. I will always help if I can as they are my grand babies, but not at the cost of my dogs diet as I made the commitment to them BEFORE my daughter made a commitment to her children.

Change dogs to my boyfriends children and maybe you can see how bloody ridiculous you and your brother are being. They are not a HER children , she's been good enough to open her home to them and he just wants more and more and more. I don't blame her for dumping him.

Ultimatums never end well.

SeulementUneFois · 27/10/2023 14:16

LaurieStrode · 27/10/2023 11:25

Yes, why the hell is he monitoring her spending and what business is it of his how she spends on the dog? Has he hoodwinked her into paying his debts, too?!

Sounds like a mooching cocklodger to me.

This.
He seems to be taking advantage of her, and wants her to finance him and his kids.
Dog issue is actually good for her, in that she's found out this sooner rather than later (rather than being a 'boiled frog' and getting dragged into it further and further).

SecondUsername4me · 27/10/2023 14:16

Nowherenew · 27/10/2023 14:09

It’s funny how MNers hate big dogs, especially around kids - yet in this situation they’re jumping to defend the ex.

Is it an XL bully by any chance? 🤣

He has absolutely no say in her keeping her dog.

If they are together and in debt then he of course has a say on what she spends her money on but not if they’re separated.

No way would I get rid of a dog for a man but it’s obvious that this woman is using the dog as a way to get her own way.

I am confused about the timeline though.
They share kids but he only moved in 6 months ago?
Why is that?

You say when they go to stay they have to stay in the dogs room, so where else are the kids staying?

I think you might need to go back and re-read the OPs posts

You've got the wrong end of the stick here.

Mercurial123 · 27/10/2023 14:16

Maybe you can let us know why you don't want him moving back in with you? The dog was there first and obviously still there long after he's gone. Your brother's ex sounds like a decent person.

trebarwith1 · 27/10/2023 14:17

The GF sounds brilliant. If you want to help your brother tell him to grow up, and stop making excuses and encouraging his entitled behaviour.

Arniesleftleg · 27/10/2023 14:17

I think you're both being unreasonable. For some, their pets are like children. If she had the dog first and he's asking her to choose between him and the dog, where does it end? What will he ask her to give up next? Her friends? Her family? Having a life?

Planesplanesplanes · 27/10/2023 14:17

LaurieStrode · 27/10/2023 11:23

Your brother is happy when he can dominate the living situation.

He needs to move out, man up and get back on track without mooching off his girlfriend or expecting her to provide a home for his kids.

And no way would i get involved with a shiftless man who thinks pets are disposable. Hope she sees the light and bins him.

Sums it up well.

OP tell your brother he can’t move back in with you.

LightDrizzle · 27/10/2023 14:18

Curious about the “fortune” he’s paying in maintenance. Obviously as their mum currently has them and all the associated costs 7/7 she requires the full amount but CMS will only be a “fortune” if he’s a high earner so I don’t understand why he can’t afford a weekly trip to McDonalds? Is he saying he pays over the CMS calculation? Perhaps it is worth him checking it out.

He presumably isn’t paying anything like a commercial rent to his girlfriend or a mortgage and I presume there are no gym memberships, smoking or drinking costs as he’d surely prioritise his children.

Is the house with the kitchen a rental property or a shared property that will be sold and from which he will receive any proceeds?

He sounds like one of life’s perennial victims, expecting other people to prioritise him and ignoring his own responsibility for his situation. If he’s working presumably he could get a house share rather than land back in your doorstep.

Lemonyfuckit · 27/10/2023 14:19

missblooming · 27/10/2023 12:14

You can get bags of dog food for £30 you can get bags of dog food for £80. Would you all really be able to let it wash over you that £50 is being spent on special food for the dog, rather than a special meal for actual children. And of course when you get involved with someone with kids you take on a degree of responsibilty and care for them!

But they're not her children. "But of course when you get involved with someone with children you take on a degree of responsibility for the children"
Well, yes and no. Generally on yes after quite a significant period of time together and a very very serious committed relationship which it absolutely does not sound like is the case here. Frankly your follow up posts are really compounding the impression that your brother is an entitled cock lodger and I really hope the GF doesn't fall for it and get sucked in. Even if he's genuinely as great as you're trying to make out, he still seems to have his thinking on this point very much the wrong way around.

PissOffKen · 27/10/2023 14:19

He sounds like the very portrait of a cock lodger. Good for her for kicking him out, I hope she follows through. I bet you OP he’s got another one lined up quickSmart if she does.

countvoncount · 27/10/2023 14:19

I'm totally team GF.
At the end of the month I hope she buys her dog a steak.

stallonesbicep · 27/10/2023 14:19

Would you all really be able to let it wash over you that £50 is being spent on special food for the dog, rather than a special meal for actual children

Yes, I would, because my children are MY responsibility to feed and clothe. I dont expect other people to take on my financial responsibilities, my historical debts, provide me with a free living space, take responsibility for my life "getting back on track", provide my children with junk food, give me the right to dictate how they spend their own money, and tell them what to do with their pets. My life is my responsibility, because I'm not a complete dickhead. HTH.

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