Man 'sexually assaults' woman then throws her and a friend off bridge into ravine at German tourist spot

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https://amp.lbc.co.uk/news/women-thrown-off-bridge-germany-neuschwanstein-castle/

21 year old lost her life because of male
entitlement.
I’m sick of this.

When will this end?
Name the problem.

I say they chuck him in the ravine. Eye for an eye.

"The motive for the attack is still unclear".

I hate that bloody word. To me its almost like victim blaming. What motive AKA reason could there be for a disgusting sicko twisted beast to commit such a sickening act.

I’m not the one criticising women for talking about it. Why are you? If you want women not to be wallflowers, what’s your problem? You should be happy it’s being spoken about here.

I’m not criticising women for talking about it, I’m criticising the idiocy of calling all other men complicit for the actions of a few bad men.

I hope that clears it up for you.

Sure, and that’s why so many good men love wanking to women being choked or hurt etc, yes?

There isn’t a few bad men if there was violence against women would be far less

there are many many bad men and a lots of men who are fine to ignore this

it’s women who call out bad behaviour it’s women who have to fight to make changes, it’s women who do their best to warn and shield younger women not because men don’t know what’s happening it’s because it’s doesn’t impact them directly so the majority simply don’t care enough

if they did things would be very different for girls and women

Probably because historically the most horrific crimes have had one common denominator - men.

This is a lot easier to understand than your apologist post.

A fantastic quote from another current thread is worth reiterating here, given the strong MRA vibes.
Some of the rules of misogyny:

1. Women are responsible for what men do

3. Women speaking for themselves are exclusionary and selfish

4. Women’s opinions are violence against men, thus male violence against women is justified.

12. Women’s ability to recognize male behavior patterns is misandry.

I can't even begin to understand how all of you feel about this, and I'm sorry, and angered that this happened. This is horrifying to me, and would be to all of my male friends (both straight and gay), and if it wasn't, they wouldn't be my friends.

I love women, even though I don't want to have sex with them, and I actually think women are far more superior to men tbf.

What can I do to be a better man?

I'm so sorry

I knew when I opened this thread the usual NAMALTS would be out in force.

The majority of sexual and violent assaults (98% is it) committed by humans are by the MALE sex. We want to discuss this problem. Because it is, a problem. A massive one.

From the principles of anti-racism, be an anti-sexist
Call out behaviour when you see it, don't ignore or laugh along
Ask female friends about their experiences

Yes me too. All of this stupid be kind shit, the poor thing must have issues/something happen in his childhood/it’s the Tories fault etc etc.(yes I know it’s Germany).
Chucking him in the ravine would be fair punishment and might actually deter some other men.
The rest of us that live a decent life would have nothing to fear.

For the same reason many good women watch cinema with men being beaten bloody, stabbed, shot & killed- because if it’s a film of any sort produced by a company, action or porn, the impression is that it is not real.

It is really low though. 1.6% of adults being the victim of a violent crime, with 75% of that being men and 25% being women. That’s 0.4% of women being the victim of a violent crime, with 95% of these being attacked by a man, gives us 0.38% of men being violent towards women.

Thats less than 1%, the very definition of a few men. And there aren’t lots of men ignoring it- who fills our prisons? Men who have done violent crime. Who arrests violent men? The mostly male police.

Look, the world isn’t perfectly safe but having been a young woman when the above rates of violence against women was 400% higher, I object to this narrative building up that implies that right here, right now is the worst it’s been, and is some sort of massive ever increasing problem with men doing nothing about it.

It’s not increasing, it’s been going down for decades and men are in fact part of why it has decreased.

Btw, if there is a correlation between violence in films (porn or action), it would seem that the more violent the media we watch is, the less violence then happens in real life.

If you compare the real data and statistics that is. Violence is at 25% of what it was in the 1990s, but all our media had gotten far more violent.

So violent media cannot be causing violence in real life.

Women speaking for themselves are exclusionary and selfish

I’m a woman and I’m speaking for myself. How about women of a different opinion keep this in mind and stop with the name calling? They’re only showing that their hate towards men also includes women who don’t hate men.

yea. I fucking hate men too. Not an overreaction. Rational.

literally as I type this I’ve just been informed greenwood is back on ManU squad list for next year. Men don’t gaf about protecting women.

That's a ludicrous comparison. Women don't watch action films (and who's doing the beating and stabbing..is it women?) for the purpose of masturbation. We don't get turned on by this stuff.
It's not just the actual violence, it's the verbal abuse and catcalling. Indecent exposure, which can go in to much more violent crimes (Couzens again) being treated as a bit of a laugh.
Having to think all the time about taking the more brightly lit route home, letting someone know when you've got home safe. Not dreaming of going for a run after dark. It's exhausting.

For the same reason many good women watch cinema with men being beaten bloody, stabbed, shot & killed- because if it’s a film of any sort produced by a company, action or porn, the impression is that it is not real.

Firstly, I don't think I know anyone who goes to the cinema and wanks while watching because they find the beating, blood, stabbing, shooting and murder scenes sexually thrilling.

Secondly, you are comparing the impression it's 'not real' in a (non porn) movie versus the impression it's 'not real' in porn. In the latter, viewers are well aware that while the people on screen are 'acting' in that their lines are scripted etc, there is a real, living, breathing woman being often violently treated, slapped, choked, spat on, very roughly had sex orally, vaginally and anally. Comparing that with mainstream non porn movies is completely disingenuous.

I avoid men as much as possible. I'm 61 years old and yet a male colleague exposed himself to me. When will this fucking shit ever end. I thought I was long past all this. I only have gay male friends now. I dont trust straight men as far as I can throw them and I'm not sorry for hating them. I've had a lifetimes experience of their shitty entitled behaviour.

This completely. I am not scared of men, I genuinely believe that most men are lovely , kind and generous. I am not worried for my daughter ..I am not alone in this. Women name calling other women for not being terrified of men Is frankly ludicrous and loses any credibility

It seems to me that some of the posters here are putting themselves in cages minimising other viewpoints and opinions , afraid of the world, chastising other women for not seeing fear wherever they look, noticing the good not the bad

There will always be bad people male and female but honestly keep some proportion.

@Maddy70

You say 'keep some proportion' but would you agree that when it comes to violent crime, and also sex offences committed against women and girls, the number of male perpetrators are very disproportionate when compared to the ratio of males and females at a population level?